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Post by cornettesracket on Jun 1, 2022 15:50:45 GMT -5
All I've seen is a plethora of major media outlets calling me a sexist and misogynist, even though I've watched hours of this trial and know what I saw and what I believe. Men can be victims too. I've not seen a second of the trial, which is why I don't talk about guilt. I'm purely talking about my experience with YouTube, which tried really, really hard to make me take notice of the case by showing me ugly thumbnails and headlines. Pretty much all men have been victims and will be victims to some extend.
It’s one thing I don’t like about YouTube is what seems to be a recent thing(maybe it’s not) but these weird video titles with emotive words capitalised and it covers all aspects of life including wrestling. The amount of obviously incorrect claims about wrestlers is amazing but the problem is that it only takes a few people to believe that crap.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jun 1, 2022 15:51:08 GMT -5
I totally ignored everything surrounding this abomination thanks to YouTube. The site constantly recommends videos with clearly biased titles when I've never clicked on a single one of it. It's rainbow press through a magnifying glass. All I've seen is a plethora of major media outlets calling me a sexist and misogynist, even though I've watched hours of this trial and know what I saw and what I believe. Men can be victims too.Right now for me personally this is very important to be said.
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Post by tirtefaa on Jun 1, 2022 16:16:35 GMT -5
Takes on a whole new meaning...
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Post by Dub H on Jun 1, 2022 16:17:06 GMT -5
All I've seen is a plethora of major media outlets calling me a sexist and misogynist, even though I've watched hours of this trial and know what I saw and what I believe. Men can be victims too.Right now for me personally this is very important to be said. While I have not been victim by an spouse or girlfriend. My mother was a classic narcisist abuser and my mother complicent on her abuse. Cant tell how much of Amber actions took me back to what my Mother did. Including threatning to call the police when I tried to defend myself(even if I was only a teen) because who would believe a man
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 1, 2022 16:31:05 GMT -5
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Post by zrowsdower on Jun 1, 2022 17:27:35 GMT -5
Well I guess her next gig will be Dancing with the Stars if she's gonna pay Depp all that money.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 1, 2022 17:45:07 GMT -5
Well I guess her next gig will be Dancing with the Stars if she's gonna pay Depp all that money. Tbf how law works Depp probably won't see a cent until at least 5 years from now.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 1, 2022 17:46:23 GMT -5
Well I guess her next gig will be Dancing with the Stars if she's gonna pay Depp all that money. Tbf how law works Depp probably won't see a cent until at least 5 years from now. If at all.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jun 1, 2022 18:25:16 GMT -5
God, she comes across as just so fake and sanctimonious.
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Post by chrom on Jun 1, 2022 18:29:42 GMT -5
In other news, Mera died returning to her home planet
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Post by Display Name on Jun 1, 2022 18:32:18 GMT -5
All I've seen is a plethora of major media outlets calling me a sexist and misogynist, even though I've watched hours of this trial and know what I saw and what I believe. Men can be victims too. I'm pretty into more politicla correct way of life but yeh if you are+ calling people sexist mysoginist over this,you clearly are choosing to be wrong. Followed the whole trial,there is absolute no way Amber isnt the abuser. Textbook abuser,gaslighting, everything You’re right on. I took that shit for way too long during my previous relationship. True sociopath’s are out there.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jun 1, 2022 18:33:48 GMT -5
So people realise this wasn't a case of Heard being found guilty of abuse, but rather a defamation case that now sets the worrying judicial precedent that people aren't allowed to call out their abusers in public even vaguely because it's considered 'malicious', right? NXT UK wrestlers must be rubbing their hands together with glee.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jun 1, 2022 18:37:00 GMT -5
Bottom line is both Depp and Heard are terrible people
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 1, 2022 18:46:01 GMT -5
So people realise this wasn't a case of Heard being found guilty of abuse, but rather a defamation case that now sets the worrying judicial precedent that people aren't allowed to call out their abusers in public even vaguely because it's considered 'malicious', right? NXT UK wrestlers must be rubbing their hands together with glee. Indeed. Even if Depp was truly the victim here, the case has been a disaster for abuse victims.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 1, 2022 18:50:45 GMT -5
So people realise this wasn't a case of Heard being found guilty of abuse, but rather a defamation case that now sets the worrying judicial precedent that people aren't allowed to call out their abusers in public even vaguely because it's considered 'malicious', right? NXT UK wrestlers must be rubbing their hands together with glee. Did you see the amount of evidence needed?It was literally a giant pile of mountain of evidence Amber was an Abuse and evidence she lied for prefit and even then there was case to doubt. Dude had direct evidence and piles of witness that both showed she lied and that she lied to hurt him. Its nowhere close to what you said.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jun 1, 2022 18:51:54 GMT -5
So people realise this wasn't a case of Heard being found guilty of abuse, but rather a defamation case that now sets the worrying judicial precedent that people aren't allowed to call out their abusers in public even vaguely because it's considered 'malicious', right? NXT UK wrestlers must be rubbing their hands together with glee. Did you see the amount of evidence needed? Its nowhere close to what you said. Marilyn Manson is already suing Evan Rachel Wood for speaking out about him. This isn't a hypothetical, this is the new tactic.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 1, 2022 18:53:34 GMT -5
Did you see the amount of evidence needed? Its nowhere close to what you said. Marilyn Manson is already suing Evan Rachel Wood for speaking out about him. This isn't a hypothetical, this is the new tactic. That was always a tactic of intimidation,it isnt new, there was even people saying it was when the Depp trial first started. You cant win without good evidence and the ones trying to abuse it will soon realize that
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 1, 2022 19:26:06 GMT -5
Did you see the amount of evidence needed? Its nowhere close to what you said. Marilyn Manson is already suing Evan Rachel Wood for speaking out about him. This isn't a hypothetical, this is the new tactic. Even then, I'm not really comfortable with throwing everybody under the bus just to make 100% sure that someone undeserving doesn't benefit somehow. That's what leads to things like "Even if you know you didn't do it, confess anyway so you don't harm others' ability to bring forth accusations." And no, that statement has absolutely nothing to do with Manson/Wood, because if I'm being honest, I don't pay much attention to celebrity stuff.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 1, 2022 19:39:04 GMT -5
That was always a tactic of intimidation,it isnt new, there was even people saying it was when the Depp trial first started. You cant win without good evidence and the ones trying to abuse it will soon realize that The problem is many victims of abuse, legitimate victims, simply don't have good evidence. Long term abusers get very good at hiding the evidence of their abuse. That alone prevents many victims from coming forward, and the thought that they may end up having to pay compensation to their abusers for speaking out will not improve things.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 1, 2022 19:41:14 GMT -5
That was always a tactic of intimidation,it isnt new, there was even people saying it was when the Depp trial first started. You cant win without good evidence and the ones trying to abuse it will soon realize that The problem is many victims of abuse, legitimate victims, simply don't have good evidence. Long term abusers get very good at hiding the evidence of their abuse. That alone prevents many victims from coming forward, and the thought that they may end up having to pay compensation to their abusers for speaking out will not improve things. You got it upside down.Im talking about proving Defamation To prove defamation you need a shit down of evidence. The Johnny Depp is unprecedent for many reasons. As a good woman said when breaking down the case: The Law was on Amber's side. Its almost impossible to prove defamation for something like this. Proving Abuse is a whole other can of worms but that was essential on proving THIS defamation. Johnny had years of audio, all witness on his favor, the experts were EXTREMELY towards Johnny, photo evidence,text evidence,all kinds. Something that is simply impossible to replicate even for most real cases of defamation.
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