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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jun 5, 2020 20:13:50 GMT -5
HBO Max had only 90,000 mobile downloads on launch day. How big of a disaster is that? Should we keep in mind that HBO Max didn't launch on Roku or Firestick, and it only launched in the US? Not being available on Roku really cuts the incentive for many customers to sign up unless they're planning to watch everything on their phone.
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Post by castletonsnob on Jun 5, 2020 20:16:25 GMT -5
HBO Max has Looney Tunes, Sesame Street, and Cartoon Network (including Hanna-Barbara).
I think they're more than capable of competing with Disney+ in the family/all ages market.
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Post by DerktheDerk on Jun 5, 2020 20:44:50 GMT -5
HBO Max has Looney Tunes, Sesame Street, and Cartoon Network (including Hanna-Barbara). I think they're more than capable of competing with Disney+ in the family/all ages market. Hard to compete with Disney+ when your new titles added with your service aren't that exciting. You can also watch Disney+ on Roku and a Fire Stick. There's that little thing as well.
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Post by castletonsnob on Jun 7, 2020 17:33:52 GMT -5
Is HBO Max a disaster? Because it feels like it is. Not having Roku at launch, not having 4K, a bunch of missing content, and now a good chunk of their stuff, like the Batman movies and Justice League will soon leave the service.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 7, 2020 17:51:07 GMT -5
Is HBO Max a disaster? Because it feels like it is. Not having Roku at launch, not having 4K, a bunch of missing content, and now a good chunk of their stuff, like the Batman movies and Justice League will soon leave the service. Wait, DC Universe was available in 4K at launch but HBO Max isn't??? How the f*** does that make sense, unless it's just being delayed due to COVID bandwidth slowdowns
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Post by Ganon83 on Jun 8, 2020 6:25:16 GMT -5
Like I’ve been saying, the chief problem is the name. Saddling it with HBO was like when Sony put out a product called the Playstation TV at the height of blowback on Microsoft for trying to sell the Xbox One as an all-in-one TV platform.
The only things people 25 or younger associate HBO with is Game of Thrones (which ended with a bad taste in everybody’s mouth) and John Oliver, a news show with the bulk of every episode put on Youtube anyway.
It would be like if Disney+ had been named ABC+ instead.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 8, 2020 9:16:03 GMT -5
I'd say the big problem is the price.
Yeah, it has Big Bang Theory, Fresh Prince, and Friends, which can be big movers of a streaming service, the price being $15 a month is too steep, and that's with the lack of some other content. It costs more than Disney+, Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Hulu.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 8, 2020 9:20:38 GMT -5
Like I’ve been saying, the chief problem is the name. Saddling it with HBO was like when Sony put out a product called the Playstation TV at the height of blowback on Microsoft for trying to sell the Xbox One as an all-in-one TV platform. The only things people 25 or younger associate HBO with is Game of Thrones (which ended with a bad taste in everybody’s mouth) and John Oliver, a news show with the bulk of every episode put on Youtube anyway. It would be like if Disney+ had been named ABC+ instead. The only problem I see with the HBO branding is market confusion between HBO Go, HBO Now and HBO Max. The fact that there’s an official website set up to explain the difference should say it all. Who the f*** let that go through? www.hbo.com/hbo-news/hbo-max-hbo-go-hbo-now-difference
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 8, 2020 9:39:56 GMT -5
Not being on Roku/Firestick is the biggest problem to me.
I’d say the name isn’t a big deal,but I never found Wii U confusing either and the general public tends to be a bit slow in the uptake.
What was confusing was the issues caused by subscribing to HBO through other providers and how switching to Max would or wouldn’t work depending on which one you used.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 8, 2020 14:03:45 GMT -5
Is HBO Max a disaster? Because it feels like it is. Not having Roku at launch, not having 4K, a bunch of missing content, and now a good chunk of their stuff, like the Batman movies and Justice League will soon leave the service. Virtually every business analyst has declared it a huge a huge disappointment at best and an outright disaster at worst, AT&T have got senators on their back over ignoring net neutrality to allow unlimited use of the service while still data capping competing streaming services, and the general response from subscribers has been lukewarm at best. Hard to think of a worse major streaming service launch.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jun 8, 2020 14:07:51 GMT -5
Honestly as someone who never watch HBO things before I just treat it as a jumping into HBO and I'm happy with it. It should have been a full stop HBO Now replacement. Idk why HBO Now still exists other then they don't have their streaming device eggs in a row.
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Post by chrom on Jun 8, 2020 14:17:57 GMT -5
And the fabled Snyder Cut which they are putting all their eggs in for will be a flop as the self proclaimed loyalists will just illegally download and stream it elsewhere instead of signing up for it.
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Post by DerktheDerk on Jun 8, 2020 23:18:37 GMT -5
If you really want a laugh, here's their "Expiring Soon/Leaving Soon" list:
- The Meg - Titanic - Braveheart - Ma - The Hobbit: The Unexpected Journey - The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug - The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies - Us - Batman Returns - Batman Forever - Catwoman - Lego Batman - The Lego Movie - Justice League - Practical Magic - Black Klansman - Pretty in Pink - Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants - March of the Penguins - Selena - Two Weeks Notice - Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle - Hellboy - Elf - American Wedding - Shutter Island - Teen Titans Go! to the Movies - Unfriended: Dark Web
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Post by darbus alan on Jun 8, 2020 23:30:55 GMT -5
Artificial scarcity on digital platforms is so f***ing stupid. Between that and the whole datacap fiasco, this is the sort of garbage that happens when content providers are the same companies as telecom providers. I'm expecting Comcast's Peacock service to be similar in this regard.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 9, 2020 1:14:18 GMT -5
Artificial scarcity on digital platforms is so f***ing stupid. Between that and the whole datacap fiasco, this is the sort of garbage that happens when content providers are the same companies as telecom providers. I'm expecting Comcast's Peacock service to be similar in this regard.
Especially dumb cause a lot of those are made by one one of their subsidiaries.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 9, 2020 3:18:14 GMT -5
I’m not hating it too badly, but if I was paying $15 a month for it I definitely would be. I get it free through having an AT&T mobile plan, so I’m a tiny bit less critical of it.
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Post by Ganon83 on Jun 9, 2020 7:12:49 GMT -5
Why the f*** would they even launch with those movies then? What a bad bait and switch. The last thing this service needs right now is to piss off its existing customer base.
If you think this is bad, I can’t wait to see how hard Peacock is going to flop. HBO Max has a good library to work with. I dunno about NBC Universial- can The Office six months from now really be any kind of killer app ten years after it ended?
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jun 9, 2020 8:02:35 GMT -5
Why the f*** would they even launch with those movies then? What a bad bait and switch. The last thing this service needs right now is to piss off its existing customer base. If you think this is bad, I can’t wait to see how hard Peacock is going to flop. HBO Max has a good library to work with. I dunno about NBC Universial- can The Office six months from now really be any kind of killer app ten years after it ended? To be fair some of those are labeled as HBO movies. So its probably a separate contract timing from before max. Some are not labeled HBO so idk why would you launch with those to yank them off quickly.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jun 9, 2020 8:36:36 GMT -5
The movies in the "Last Chance" section are the movies that would have been on HBO/HBO-Go/HBO-Now for a limited time before moving over to Cinemax. Since HBO Max includes everything on HBO/HBO-Go/HBO-Max, subscribers get access to the movies that HBO offers for a period before moving to Cinemax.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 8:46:05 GMT -5
Why the f*** would they even launch with those movies then? What a bad bait and switch. The last thing this service needs right now is to piss off its existing customer base. If you think this is bad, I can’t wait to see how hard Peacock is going to flop. HBO Max has a good library to work with. I dunno about NBC Universial- can The Office six months from now really be any kind of killer app ten years after it ended? On one hand, at least Peacock is substantially cheaper to watch everything, but on the other, Peacock is making you pay extra to not have ads (and isn't going to have anything goddamn close to Hulu's selection to justify it) and that could very much be a turnoff. Really the only upside I can see to Peacock is that it's the first time in years that Law & Order has been streaming anywhere but that's constantly in syndication anyway.
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