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Post by camphor #BLM on Jun 7, 2020 20:53:03 GMT -5
Gimmicks that only exist to humiliate a performer or "make the boys in the back laugh" are the absolute worst. There is so many gimmicks and characters that haven't been done yet that the crowd would probably pop for. You want to do wacky tag team gimmicks? Give me an Astronaut team with a Space Monkey manager, give me two bin men coming to the ring in a bin lorry. Don't just dress them up because "HAHA LOOK HOW STUPID THEY LOOK PAL!" A writer, I think Court Bauer, once pitched to turn Bob Holly into an astronaut, lol 1) Sparky Plugg 2) "Splashdown" Bobbin' Bob ...then all he'd need would be a yacht-persona, and he'd have the land, sky and sea covered!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 23:44:07 GMT -5
I’m in the middle of listening to this podcast (will finish the rest on my walk tomorrow) and am just flabbergasted at how little thought goes into certain things in WWE. I mean, it shouldn’t be surprising, but it is.
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Post by Celgress on Jun 8, 2020 10:51:56 GMT -5
FTR also stated that Vince brought up the Brainbusters (Arn and Tully) as an example of a tag team that "sucked" and "deserved to be parodied" - because they had "no character and were all business in the ring". This angered FTR but they held their tongues (if barely).
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 8, 2020 11:16:42 GMT -5
FTR also stated that Vince brought up the Brainbusters (Arn and Tully) as an example of a tag team that "sucked" and "deserved to be parodied" - because they had "no character and were all business in the ring". This angered FTR but they held their tongues (if barely). Then why pay Tully and Arn six figures and keep them on tv Vince? What an idiot
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jun 8, 2020 11:27:36 GMT -5
FTR also stated that Vince brought up the Brainbusters (Arn and Tully) as an example of a tag team that "sucked" and "deserved to be parodied" - because they had "no character and were all business in the ring". This angered FTR but they held their tongues (if barely). Then why pay Tully and Arn six figures and keep them on tv Vince? What an idiot So that the NWA couldn't have them.
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Post by chrom on Jun 8, 2020 11:34:59 GMT -5
FTR also stated that Vince brought up the Brainbusters (Arn and Tully) as an example of a tag team that "sucked" and "deserved to be parodied" - because they had "no character and were all business in the ring". This angered FTR but they held their tongues (if barely). Insult their heroes and idols right to their face, that'll make them want to stay with you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 11:36:37 GMT -5
FTR also stated that Vince brought up the Brainbusters (Arn and Tully) as an example of a tag team that "sucked" and "deserved to be parodied" - because they had "no character and were all business in the ring". This angered FTR but they held their tongues (if barely).
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Post by Greer on Jun 8, 2020 11:56:52 GMT -5
Two of the best promo men in wrestling history and part of arguably the greatest faction EVER (The Horsemen), had "no character".
Vince McMahon is an idiot.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 8, 2020 12:09:28 GMT -5
Arn Anderson doesn’t have any personality really motherf***er? Let’s talk about the garbage you produced like Ricky Ortiz or Marc Mero or shit you thought were the next big thing, but Arn Anderson sucks? You a senile bitch.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 8, 2020 12:45:22 GMT -5
Prichard's inability to understand why people think shit ideas are shit must be some sort of patholgical issue.
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Post by Greer on Jun 8, 2020 13:29:26 GMT -5
Prichard's inability to understand why people think shit ideas are shit must be some sort of patholgical issue. Yeah. The guy that thinks it's Terry Taylor's fault that the Red Rooster didn't work and still justifies DUSTY F'N RHODES in polka dots. Are they that delusional? Are they secretly ribbing? Combo of both? It's enough to make your brain melt trying to figure out what goes into their decision making.
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Post by genericusername on Jun 8, 2020 13:35:27 GMT -5
Two of the best promo men in wrestling history and part of arguably the greatest faction EVER (The Horsemen), had "no character". Vince McMahon is an idiot. It wasn't his idea, therefore it wasn't good.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jun 8, 2020 13:43:41 GMT -5
I love the idea of Astronaut Bob Holly. Astrobob is the hero we deserve. FTR also stated that Vince brought up the Brainbusters (Arn and Tully) as an example of a tag team that "sucked" and "deserved to be parodied" - because they had "no character and were all business in the ring". This angered FTR but they held their tongues (if barely). Then why pay Tully and Arn six figures and keep them on tv Vince? What an idiot According to Arn, Vince made them promises that he didn't keep on the money side of things and was always going to make things right until they left.
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Post by wildojinx on Jun 8, 2020 13:51:06 GMT -5
FTR also stated that Vince brought up the Brainbusters (Arn and Tully) as an example of a tag team that "sucked" and "deserved to be parodied" - because they had "no character and were all business in the ring". This angered FTR but they held their tongues (if barely). Then why pay Tully and Arn six figures and keep them on tv Vince? What an idiot Not to mention giving them the tag belts and having them be managed by Bobby Heenan (makes me wonder what Vince really thinks of Heenan).
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 8, 2020 13:52:55 GMT -5
FTR also stated that Vince brought up the Brainbusters (Arn and Tully) as an example of a tag team that "sucked" and "deserved to be parodied" - because they had "no character and were all business in the ring". This angered FTR but they held their tongues (if barely). Insult their heroes and idols right to their face, that'll make them want to stay with you. Oh no that was very much the test. Vince isn't stupid. He's deranged and self-obsessed to the point he can't produce content with anyone else in mind unless it will instantly make him so much money he can't not do it, but he knows what he's doing. He understands what the Revival were trying to be and why they came out looking like The Brainbusters. He knows they are exactly the dudes those guys idolized and aspired to be a revival of. Insulting their heroes was in every way a challenge to them and an attempt to dig in what this gimmick was and what it was make for. Nobody s manipulative as everyone says Vince McMahon is can be so blind as to think that was anything but an insult to them. He wanted to either browbeat them into submission and make it clear this gimmick was tailor-made to humiliate them and make a mockery of what they cared about, or to give them a final f*** you out the door if they had any life left in them to not take the deal. Not to mention, hastening a deal that led tothem forcing the guys to barter away their own intellectual property in exchange for not having their contracts extended, a week before WWE cut dozens of people anyway. This all ties together strategically.
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