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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 30, 2020 4:54:43 GMT -5
I’ve got the feeling Gedo is thinking “well we planned Hiromu vs Naito, so why not do it anyway?”. Wouldn’t be the first time they’ve gone back to the course they planned anyway (see Mox winning the US title back straight away). I kinda agree and Hiromu/Naito is the best match they can do but Hiromu would have to top a heavy, possibly Okada, to get there right? I’m not sure if Gedo is ready to let him do that just yet. I hope he is lol I think I'd completely lose my shit if Hiromu actually got to beat Okada. If only because of just how utterly impossible it seems.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 30, 2020 6:39:41 GMT -5
I predicted Hiromu or a LIJ member earlier and i'm going to stick with it
Hiromu beating Okada would be a big shocker but that's why you have a one elimination tournament. Hiromu is the Ace of the Juniors and isn't giving up that position for another year or two but it would showcase what he could do when/if he does go HW
SANADA just needs an impressive run. He really should be winning a singles title this year. NJPW just has a bad tendency to have guys fall flat after a big year. ZSJ last year was good but he had a big 2018. EVIL the same and then he was just sort of there last year. Tho thing is SANADA is big time over and it seems Gedo is ready to let him roam free
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Post by ANuclearError on Jun 30, 2020 7:46:35 GMT -5
Is SANADA still in the "NJPW don't quite have the commitment they need to really push him" situation that Ibushi was in?
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on Jun 30, 2020 7:48:14 GMT -5
From interviews I’ve read, I’ve took it as Naito is very interested in having the match with Hiromu. It’d be a nice change of pace if maybe Naito interfered with the match (assuming it gets to Okada vs Hiromu) to ensure it does happen. It could then lead to an Okada/Naito feud as Okada was critical of Naito’s involvement in the Wrestle Kingdom tournament. I know fantasy booking rarely works out but I’d like to see it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 30, 2020 7:59:29 GMT -5
Is SANADA still in the "NJPW don't quite have the commitment they need to really push him" situation that Ibushi was in? Yea, somewhat SANADA is more stable then Ibushi was. In a sense you can say he is like Minoru where they are technically freelancers but mainly associated with this one promotion Without that contract tho SANADA won't get a world title run but they trust him more then they did Ibushi to give him the other titles
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Post by ANuclearError on Jun 30, 2020 9:56:32 GMT -5
Is SANADA still in the "NJPW don't quite have the commitment they need to really push him" situation that Ibushi was in? Yea, somewhat SANADA is more stable then Ibushi was. In a sense you can say he is like Minoru where they are technically freelancers but mainly associated with this one promotion Without that contract tho SANADA won't get a world title run but they trust him more then they did Ibushi to give him the other titles
I guess it helps that SANADA probably isn't quite as eccentric as Ibushi is.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 30, 2020 10:02:18 GMT -5
Yea, somewhat SANADA is more stable then Ibushi was. In a sense you can say he is like Minoru where they are technically freelancers but mainly associated with this one promotion Without that contract tho SANADA won't get a world title run but they trust him more then they did Ibushi to give him the other titles
I guess it helps that SANADA probably isn't quite as eccentric as Ibushi is.
Yea, SANADA is way more down to earth. Ibushi could just get up one day and say f*** this I don't want to do it anymore which is why NJPW was so iffy on him NJPW isn't worried about SANADA up and leaving. However, he def has a ceiling at least for now
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 30, 2020 14:42:37 GMT -5
Is SANADA still in the "NJPW don't quite have the commitment they need to really push him" situation that Ibushi was in? Kinda yeah, though I feel like that is set to change somewhat. He got to finally beat Okada in a match, for instance, and he's very popular, but echoing others, I think his limitation is not being under contract. That being said, I think he'll probably get one of the singles belts in the next year or so.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 30, 2020 15:27:37 GMT -5
Is SANADA still in the "NJPW don't quite have the commitment they need to really push him" situation that Ibushi was in? Kinda yeah, though I feel like that is set to change somewhat. He got to finally beat Okada in a match, for instance, and he's very popular, but echoing others, I think his limitation is not being under contract. That being said, I think he'll probably get one of the singles belts in the next year or so. That'd make him being the one member of LIJ without any gold after Wrestle Kingdom a good story beat. I had the vibe before the shut down like they might have been building to a "hiding he's displeased about being the one guy in the group without gold" SANADA against a "he's off his game for some reason and needs to push to the next level" EVIL match, though likely just in a tournament setting.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 30, 2020 15:31:57 GMT -5
Kinda yeah, though I feel like that is set to change somewhat. He got to finally beat Okada in a match, for instance, and he's very popular, but echoing others, I think his limitation is not being under contract. That being said, I think he'll probably get one of the singles belts in the next year or so. That'd make him being the one member of LIJ without any gold after Wrestle Kingdom a good story beat. I had the vibe before the shut down like they might have been building to a "hiding he's displeased about being the one guy in the group without gold" SANADA a "he's off his game for some reason and needs to push to the next level" EVIL match, though likely just in a tournament setting. Right. I don't think Gedo tends to do that kind of thing on "accident" often. He's probably going to be presented as frustrated, especially if he doesn't make it to the finals.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 30, 2020 15:35:49 GMT -5
Kinda yeah, though I feel like that is set to change somewhat. He got to finally beat Okada in a match, for instance, and he's very popular, but echoing others, I think his limitation is not being under contract. That being said, I think he'll probably get one of the singles belts in the next year or so. That'd make him being the one member of LIJ without any gold after Wrestle Kingdom a good story beat. I had the vibe before the shut down like they might have been building to a "hiding he's displeased about being the one guy in the group without gold" SANADA a "he's off his game for some reason and needs to push to the next level" EVIL match, though likely just in a tournament setting. It's a logical evolution for him For the man that never really shows frustration, last year was really the first year he broke out his shell and added more emotion. Now, for the man that makes everything look easy, the fact that it isn't as easy is a good story beat.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Jun 30, 2020 20:14:44 GMT -5
Naito has talked at length before he was champ that his ideal reign would be defending against all of LIJ. I think that was originally the goal but obviously NJPW has an entirely new schedule now. I think he will keep the heavy into WK but needs to do something about the IC in between. Personally I would just rather he retire it or unify lol.
Then again I have a friend who says Goto is winning because Dominion will sell out regardless lol
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Post by chrom on Jun 30, 2020 20:44:45 GMT -5
I guess it helps that SANADA probably isn't quite as eccentric as Ibushi is.
Yea, SANADA is way more down to earth. Ibushi could just get up one day and say f*** this I don't want to do it anymore which is why NJPW was so iffy on him NJPW isn't worried about SANADA up and leaving. However, he def has a ceiling at least for now So long as he remains a freelancer with them and not sign a contract, he'll be limited to tag and trios title runs there.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Jun 30, 2020 22:26:32 GMT -5
Yea, SANADA is way more down to earth. Ibushi could just get up one day and say f*** this I don't want to do it anymore which is why NJPW was so iffy on him NJPW isn't worried about SANADA up and leaving. However, he def has a ceiling at least for now So long as he remains a freelancer with them and not sign a contract, he'll be limited to tag and trios title runs there. WWE has also been after him for the past few years, I think that plays a factor in them not 100% committing to him.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jun 30, 2020 22:45:52 GMT -5
Honestly I'm just pumped that I'm going to get to see Ishii Vs. Takahashi.
It will be a role model for children!
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 1, 2020 4:00:54 GMT -5
Yea, SANADA is way more down to earth. Ibushi could just get up one day and say f*** this I don't want to do it anymore which is why NJPW was so iffy on him NJPW isn't worried about SANADA up and leaving. However, he def has a ceiling at least for now So long as he remains a freelancer with them and not sign a contract, he'll be limited to tag and trios title runs there. He will win singles titles just now the Hw title
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Post by chrom on Jul 1, 2020 5:44:28 GMT -5
Sanada advances to the quarter finals
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Post by chrom on Jul 1, 2020 6:01:12 GMT -5
The friendship between Tsuji and Hiromu didn't last
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on Jul 1, 2020 6:34:48 GMT -5
It was a bullshit finish, but I’m so glad Taichi advances!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 6:59:08 GMT -5
Big win for EVIL.
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