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Post by romanstylesiii on Dec 8, 2020 20:23:33 GMT -5
Bryan winning the title at WM 30 felt like the first time for him winning the the big one, despite him being a two time champ prior. 3 time* WHC, won the WWE title over Cena, lost it that same night. Beat Orton a month later, he was stripped of it the next night because Scott Armstrong counted fast for a reason that has still yet to be explained
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 9, 2020 5:45:46 GMT -5
Kama Mustafa, yeah. And IIRC he didn't turn into The Godfather as we knew him in the Attitude Era until after the DX parody. He was just called "The Godfather of the Nation" before the dx parody, he dropped it to just Godfather when the Nation split up. It almost seemed like Godfather took up a pimp gimmick because of the Nation parody, because Kama was so bland that they gave him a character trait so Billy Gunn would be able to participate.
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Post by crashmatsbazz on Dec 9, 2020 6:03:43 GMT -5
He was just called "The Godfather of the Nation" before the dx parody, he dropped it to just Godfather when the Nation split up. It almost seemed like Godfather took up a pimp gimmick because of the Nation parody, because Kama was so bland that they gave him a character trait so Billy Gunn would be able to participate. the Godfather had a bowler hat and a Cigar, what more of a character could young William Gunn possibly want?
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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 9, 2020 6:31:10 GMT -5
Im sure this has been mentioned Kane dressed in DX green costume, I am certain I’ve seen a pic or clip of this.But it never happened Mmm, there was a very widely-distributed altered pic of Kane in green DX gear years ago, so maybe that's what you saw at one point. No-one tried to fake a clip, as far as I've heard.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 9, 2020 11:42:53 GMT -5
i can't remember Dr Death fighting anyone else other than Bart Gunn in the WWE, and not just in the Brawl for All, he was in an angle with Bart Gunn when JR turned heel, but i can't remember him having a match on RAW or Superstars against anyone else over than Bart. people also seem to forget Godfather was in the nation, and he was called Karma Mustafa, so "The Godfather" was just his nickname, so the character of Karma the ultimate fighting machine and the Godfather are the same guy. The only thing I remember about Dr Death’s WWF run is his Jakks figures warming the pegs at the stores until they decomposed.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 9, 2020 12:17:19 GMT -5
Austin tipped off Linda during the week, and they basically undid Vince's power in the same show as the higher power reveal. This itself is a big Mandela Effect in its own right. It seems like everyone remembers this moment as a triumph for the Mr. McMahon character, where he fooled the entire company, including Austin and his own family. Who can stop Vince McMahon and the combined power of the Ministry and the Corporation, the Corporate Ministry? In reality, his gambit resulted in his arch nemesis becoming the CEO of his own company because he decided to piss off half of his family which included half the ownership of the company and the then CEO of the company. Vince ended up revealing himself as the Higher Power and it went so badly he didn't exit the segment to his own music. It went so badly for him that it was the direct cause of all his problems until the Invasion storyline wrapped. Hell, Steph said when she bought ECW that she got bored of waiting for Vince to get himself killed so her and Shane were just gonna take the company by force
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Post by wildojinx on Dec 9, 2020 13:00:42 GMT -5
All the clips of the Snuka dive off the cage onto Muraco imply that 1. It was the first time Snuka did it and 2. that he beat Muraco with it. In actuality, Snuka had done it years earlier against Backlund (but missed), and secondly, Muraco had beaten Snuka, the dive happened after the match.
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Post by rocket on Dec 9, 2020 13:12:01 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, the buildup to the early 2010's Undertaker-Triple H Wrestlemania matches made it seem like the Wrestlemania 17 match never happened.
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Post by wildojinx on Dec 9, 2020 13:13:25 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, the buildup to the early 2010's Undertaker-Triple H Wrestlemania matches made it seem like the Wrestlemania 17 match never happened. Same with the 2003 Brock vs Cena match never mentioned in the buildup to the Extreme Rules match.
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 9, 2020 19:16:33 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, the buildup to the early 2010's Undertaker-Triple H Wrestlemania matches made it seem like the Wrestlemania 17 match never happened. Then Triple H cut a promo on Raw basically saying "Oh yeah, this wasn't the first time we clashed at WrestleMania."
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Post by A damn road sign on Dec 11, 2020 6:38:52 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, the buildup to the early 2010's Undertaker-Triple H Wrestlemania matches made it seem like the Wrestlemania 17 match never happened. Then Triple H cut a promo on Raw basically saying "Oh yeah, this wasn't the first time we clashed at WrestleMania." Yeah, the night after. 🤣 I’m sure he basically blew off that WM27 loss the night before just like “eh, it’s not the first time you’ve beaten me at a WrestleMania” WHICH THEY’D NEVER MENTIONED ONE TIME DURING THE ENTIRE BUILDUP.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 10:41:19 GMT -5
Then Triple H cut a promo on Raw basically saying "Oh yeah, this wasn't the first time we clashed at WrestleMania." Yeah, the night after. 🤣 I’m sure he basically blew off that WM27 loss the night before just like “eh, it’s not the first time you’ve beaten me at a WrestleMania” WHICH THEY’D NEVER MENTIONED ONE TIME DURING THE ENTIRE BUILDUP. They were so shameless with this lmao. To the casual fan, they were hyping it up like this huge "FIRST TIME EVER" match and then when it was over, it was like "There. I mentioned the one 10 years ago, you happy now?"
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Post by katieklaus on Dec 11, 2020 11:43:02 GMT -5
Not sure if it counts as it's likely a personal thing rather than a Mandela Effect that a mass amount of people remember but I always remember Sandman being IC Champion at somepoint during his WWE run. It's like I can just picture him with the belt and it being a bit of a funny thing that someone like the Sandman was carrying the IC belt. I know it never happened but...didn't it?
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Dec 11, 2020 22:34:08 GMT -5
Mike rotunda or is it rotundo that defended the tag titles at the 1st mania. I'm honestly not sure the correct spelling. Rotundi That’s the plural form and you know it!
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Post by SirLucas on Dec 12, 2020 19:50:19 GMT -5
After the Montreal Screwjob, Bret broke the ringside monitors and air signed "WCW."
The basis for the Montreal is a work claim is that if this were a shoot, then why would Vince broadcast Bret doing that on a PPV?
Well...the breaking of the monitors and "WCW" air signaling was never on the PPV broadcast. That happened off air and was later shown on Wrestling with Shadows. But how many people still think those actions happened on the live PPV?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 0:19:34 GMT -5
After the Montreal Screwjob, Bret broke the ringside monitors and air signed "WCW." The basis for the Montreal is a work claim is that if this were a shoot, then why would Vince broadcast Bret doing that on a PPV? Well...the breaking of the monitors and "WCW" air signaling was never on the PPV broadcast. That happened off air and was later shown on Wrestling with Shadows. But how many people still think those actions happened on the live PPV? Honestly nobody will ever truly know if Montreal was a work or not. I will say this. The Mr. McMahon character wouldn't be half as successful as it was if it wasn't for Montreal.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 14, 2020 16:58:33 GMT -5
All the clips of the Snuka dive off the cage onto Muraco imply that 1. It was the first time Snuka did it and 2. that he beat Muraco with it. In actuality, Snuka had done it years earlier against Backlund (but missed), and secondly, Muraco had beaten Snuka, the dive happened after the match. Mick Foley never tells that part of the story but it tells you so much about Foley's career to learn this about that moment
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Post by bob on Dec 15, 2020 10:49:35 GMT -5
After the Montreal Screwjob, Bret broke the ringside monitors and air signed "WCW." The basis for the Montreal is a work claim is that if this were a shoot, then why would Vince broadcast Bret doing that on a PPV? Well...the breaking of the monitors and "WCW" air signaling was never on the PPV broadcast. That happened off air and was later shown on Wrestling with Shadows. But how many people still think those actions happened on the live PPV? I didn't see Survivor Series 97... so on the Network I checked it out a while ago and was shocked that Bret destroying monitors and signaling WCW wasn't on it
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Dec 17, 2020 0:48:01 GMT -5
For the longest time, I thought Ric Flair's 1991 match against Shawn Michaels (which I'm pretty sure was Shawn's last match as a Rocker) was his WWF debut, and was psyched that his retirement match was against him as well, bringing his career full circle.
Then I saw that the 1991 match was in December, a full month after he had wrestled at Survivor Series, and had a few other singles matches under his belt.
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