lucas_lee
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Post by lucas_lee on Jun 24, 2020 0:56:04 GMT -5
If she didnt witness any CZW harassment she didnt see it Joey. I've heard some stories of DJ sexually harassing trainees but that's the extent to it
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 24, 2020 1:47:42 GMT -5
I hope Janela takes a breather and apologize, he seems like he needs to not be so impulsive when he's worked up. wasn't Rory Gulak helping with training until he got outed as a creep last year? Pretty sure he was, yes. Don't know about Rory... (he was outed as a creeper I believe but not sure on if he was a trainer) but Drew Gulak was a trainer... I think Cesaro was a trainer too for a while.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 24, 2020 1:49:57 GMT -5
I hope Janela takes a breather and apologize, he seems like he needs to not be so impulsive when he's worked up. Pretty sure he was, yes. Don't know about Rory... (he was outed as a creeper I believe but not sure on if he was a trainer) but Drew Gulak was a trainer... I think Cesaro was a trainer too for a while. Rory and Juan both in fact had training sessions at CHIKARA when they were both outed and blackballed
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 24, 2020 1:52:28 GMT -5
Don't know about Rory... (he was outed as a creeper I believe but not sure on if he was a trainer) but Drew Gulak was a trainer... I think Cesaro was a trainer too for a while. Rory and Juan both in fact had training sessions at CHIKARA when they were both outed and blackballed Ok, my post was also not trying to call Cesaro or Drew out on anything... I'm honestly just hoping the two of them aren't involved in anything >_>
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mattyy
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Post by mattyy on Jun 24, 2020 2:03:25 GMT -5
totally forgot about Mark Adam Haggerty too.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 24, 2020 2:05:35 GMT -5
totally forgot about Mark Adam Haggerty too. Yeah, ring announcer for a time until he went to MLW I don't know if he's a product of CHIKARA or just an all around asshole though.
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Post by Gopher Mod on Jun 24, 2020 6:03:32 GMT -5
totally forgot about Mark Adam Haggerty too. Yeah, ring announcer for a time until he went to MLW I don't know if he's a product of CHIKARA or just an all around asshole though. He was in other promotions for a few years prior to joining CHIKARA. So, AFAIK, he isn't a product of the company.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 24, 2020 6:55:29 GMT -5
Callux, who debuted in CHIKARA I wanna say like two years ago as a part of the Proteus Wheel, spoke out about the ongoing allegations
Always seemed like a cool dude committed to his monster gimmick, I can fully believe a lot of the regular wrestlers didn't know about any of the serious shit going on, especially ones newer to the company depending on how long Callux was training for.
It's heartbreaking all around.
For anyone curious if other CHIKARA Wrestlers are joining in who are saying they were not aware and are also in the same boat, the post was liked as of this post by the former Leonard F Chikarason, Razerhawk, Molly McCoy, Worker Ant/AssailAnt and Cabana Man Dan, all of whom aside from LFC were working with CHIKARA prior to the pandemic shutdown.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Jun 24, 2020 7:06:06 GMT -5
I'd heard the stories about Quackenbush being "prickly", shall we say, and a massively highly-strung control freak, but I hadn't realised it was quite this sinister.
I used to really enjoy Chikara, it was a big part of me rediscovering wrestling after my break in the early/mid-2000s, but a lot of the shine came off for me when these rumours first started to emerge a few years ago. Purely from the standpoint of a fan of wrestling alone, a lot of important memories I have of wrestling are now being tarnished as a result of this big scandal.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 24, 2020 7:12:37 GMT -5
Callux, who debuted in CHIKARA I wanna say like two years ago as a part of the Proteus Wheel, spoke out about the ongoing allegations Yeah a few of them are probably getting a lot of grief including Callux for saying Thomas Sharpe (The former Blaster McMassive) was kicked out of Chikara for similar allegations Always seemed like a cool dude committed to his monster gimmick, I can fully believe a lot of the regular wrestlers didn't know about any of the serious shit going on, especially ones newer to the company depending on how long Callux was training for. It's heartbreaking all around. For anyone curious if other CHIKARA Wrestlers are joining in who are saying they were not aware and are also in the same boat, the post was liked as of this post by the former Leonard F Chikarason, Razerhawk, Molly McCoy, Worker Ant/AssailAnt and Cabana Man Dan, all of whom aside from LFC were working with CHIKARA prior to the pandemic shutdown.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 24, 2020 7:18:05 GMT -5
Callux, who debuted in CHIKARA I wanna say like two years ago as a part of the Proteus Wheel, spoke out about the ongoing allegations Yeah a few of them are probably getting a lot of grief including Callux for saying Thomas Sharpe (The former Blaster McMassive) was kicked out of Chikara for similar allegations Always seemed like a cool dude committed to his monster gimmick, I can fully believe a lot of the regular wrestlers didn't know about any of the serious shit going on, especially ones newer to the company depending on how long Callux was training for. It's heartbreaking all around. For anyone curious if other CHIKARA Wrestlers are joining in who are saying they were not aware and are also in the same boat, the post was liked as of this post by the former Leonard F Chikarason, Razerhawk, Molly McCoy, Worker Ant/AssailAnt and Cabana Man Dan, all of whom aside from LFC were working with CHIKARA prior to the pandemic shutdown. Your post came out a bit weird so I highlighted your part of it, lol But yeah, I dunno if they were getting grief when Bryce himself was leading the charge, but if they were, they aren't now. Also a terrible look for McMassive even though nothing specific was said.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 24, 2020 7:23:24 GMT -5
From MLW's Zenshi, the former Shenron/Shynron who also competed in CHIKARA in the past.
Looks like there are even more stories coming out in private, whether they'll be shared is yet to be seen
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 24, 2020 8:07:26 GMT -5
Rumors circulating that AEW's legal team basically told Janela to delete those tweets due to potential harassment and victim shaming.
Also, the reaction on wrestling twitter is mixed. You have a huge contingent saying this was well known while others are heartbroken cause Chikara promoted a family environment
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Convoy
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Post by Convoy on Jun 24, 2020 8:37:37 GMT -5
All of this is extremely believable. I probably can’t say too much, as I don’t have the “receipts” to prove it, but I was (un)fortunate enough to be around the CHIKARA team back in 2012-13. At the shows, the wrestlers were among the best I’ve ever had the chance to meet. At the after parties and group dinners, some were among the very worst.
Quack was always respectful and charming in-person, but he was never at those latter events. All my stories about him and his brutal, idiotic trainers are second-hand. The stuff that I witnessed first-hand (Kobald’s behavior for example) was so awful it made me step away as a fan and plead to others to avoid going to shows.
Also, let me just say that it’s still sickening to see wrestlers on social media go after Kobald and others, when they are just as guilty in their behavior during that time. Clearly no one is trying to get ahead of accusations, and are just hoping they themselves don’t get called out.
Apologies in advance for the vagueness. These just aren’t my stories to tell. I usually am pretty upbeat and chill on this forum, but this CHIKARA stuff has brought up memories from a weird time that I’ve never forgotten. Just an awful, awful time.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jun 24, 2020 8:45:32 GMT -5
Quack’s DM is written like one of his awful promos.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jun 24, 2020 9:18:45 GMT -5
There's a good amount of people that have surprised me in the last few days with their alleged actions. Quack is not one of them. Exactly. Known Wiggy thru another forum for years now and she has been pretty open about Chikara. THen I have talked to a bunch of people that eitehr trained at CHikara or know QUack. All of them have been shocked that these stories just came out. Add in all the stories about QUack in the comic book community,lets just say that I would never buy a comic off Quack that wasn't slabbed.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Jun 24, 2020 9:30:27 GMT -5
Makes this Crucible angle awkward
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jun 24, 2020 10:52:07 GMT -5
Your post came out a bit weird so I highlighted your part of it, lol But yeah, I dunno if they were getting grief when Bryce himself was leading the charge, but if they were, they aren't now. Also a terrible look for McMassive even though nothing specific was said. f*** that guy for daring to try and exploit this situation for his own benefit. You do not use this shit to push a f***ing agenda. Real people are coming forward with their stories of trauma, and this son of a bitch is trying to use it to get himself booked. Not even getting into whatever allegations he may have against him. This is pretty disgusting as it is.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Jun 24, 2020 11:04:53 GMT -5
Your post came out a bit weird so I highlighted your part of it, lol But yeah, I dunno if they were getting grief when Bryce himself was leading the charge, but if they were, they aren't now. Also a terrible look for McMassive even though nothing specific was said. f*** that guy for daring to try and exploit this situation for his own benefit. You do not use this shit to push a f***ing agenda. Real people are coming forward with their stories of trauma, and this son of a bitch is trying to use it to get himself booked. Not even getting into whatever allegations he may have against him. This is pretty disgusting as it is. Sharpe comes across as super sketchy a lot of the time, WWE didn't even want him and that is saying something
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Post by daveyt on Jun 24, 2020 11:07:31 GMT -5
Hallowicked tweeted he has left Chikara and The Wrestle Factory
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