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Post by aka Cthulhu on Feb 5, 2024 7:12:23 GMT -5
And it happened. Selen Tatsuki has been terminated from Nijisanji, including all her VODs being privated. No graduation stream. In the end, all one can do is hope she lands on her feet after this. Oof. Just saw the tweet on Selen's PL account. Like, holy shit. Niji's announcement also mentions harassment of Selen by other livers. That's one hell of a pandora's box.
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Post by Giul T. on Feb 5, 2024 7:46:44 GMT -5
Wow. Watching this disaster unfold, I have very few words on how bad this looks. Everyone seems to be in Selen's side here and it's not hard to see why with just how badly the company has done this.
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Post by animaniac on Feb 5, 2024 8:24:25 GMT -5
I can't believe a company just flat out admitted "yeah, our employees harassed another employee" so casually. Holy shit.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Feb 5, 2024 8:36:15 GMT -5
I can't believe a company just flat out admitted "yeah, our employees harassed another employee" so casually. Holy shit. Really quite baffling that they'd admit that. Most generous speculation from me is that Niji knows that Selen would mention it sooner or later (and she did), so might as well rip the band aid off now. On the other hand, admitting it on a post about reasons why they're firing Selen is certainly a move. So far, the other NijiEN livers have been quiet about things. Perhaps that's why Niji mentioned the harassment. With that in mind, everyone who talks about Selen would be suspected of knowing something about the harassment and get hounded with questions.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Feb 5, 2024 8:57:52 GMT -5
Apparently, the Japanese language post of Selen's termination does not mention/denies harassment.
If that's the case, that just makes management even more incompetent due to not bothering with proofreading.
Selen's PL mentions bullying though, so there was harassment, but its unclear whether its from management or the livers, or both.
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Post by animaniac on Feb 5, 2024 10:56:07 GMT -5
Dokibird (Selen's original independent account) returns Wednesday 8 eastern.
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Feb 5, 2024 13:32:44 GMT -5
Apparently, Selen/Dokibird found out she was officially terminated when the graduation notice was posted- same time as all of us.
Nijisanji has not only shot themselves in the foot, they've emptied both barrels of buckshot, reloaded, emptied both barrels again, and then broke their nose on the recoil while committing said foot-shooting.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 5, 2024 13:38:50 GMT -5
Nijisanji needs to just be taken out behind the woodshed and get both barrels. It’s an absolutely diseased agency.
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Post by animaniac on Feb 5, 2024 14:00:43 GMT -5
Ike Eveland is going on break and Rosemi Lovelock is taking a few days off of social media.
I bet more people are going to leave.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 5, 2024 14:21:03 GMT -5
Oh man, something got pointed out that is downright vile. Selen apparently had her accounts accesses taken back by Niji on December 26th. All the tweets her Twitter account sent out about her hospitalization were from *after* that. Nijisanji puppeted her god damn account to try and downplay her situation as just an “accident”.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 5, 2024 15:58:33 GMT -5
Apparently in the past Nijisanji interviewed prolific voice actor Alejandro Saab, under his VTuber persona of CyYu(don’t worry he openly states who he is on both his and CyYu’s social media accounts so this isn’t a kayfabe breaking secret) about joining Nijisanji, and apparently one of the things they asked of him was if he was willing to give up voice acting entirely.
Naaaaaaaaaah fam, Nijisanji absolutely needs to get going now. This is way too controlling for a company to be, god damn.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Feb 5, 2024 17:40:37 GMT -5
WWE/TKO: We've been making some really questionable decisions lately.
Nijisanji/AnyColor: Hold our beer.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Feb 5, 2024 18:10:13 GMT -5
Alas. Never really felt it that much, but at this point this seems apt "Anycolor, but they chose black."
Apparently, one wild thing about the management is that most of them don't speak English, which certainly puts some of the EN members at a disadvantage.
And really, considering the suicide attempt there's not much they can do, but the fact that the termination post tries to justify what they've done is pretty damn vile. Once it happened, they could have done right by agreeing to part ways with Selen instead of trying to paint her in a bad light. Just pretty dang scummy.
Lots of people are speculating that EN will go the way of the other international branches. Everyone absorbed into the main branch, or at least everyone who's willing to stay.
Frankly, I don't like comparing the two companies together, but comparing how holo dealt with Mel for the NDA breach and this mess, it's like night and day.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Feb 5, 2024 18:27:28 GMT -5
Kay Yu (creator of HoloCure) also mentioned Selen's termination. Like, I reckon for the next few days things are gonna be on fire.
Nijisanji's reddit is on full on revolt mode. Alas, yet another thing that hololive did smarter and I wish Niji followed suit to show they're actually aware. Coco graduating and Rushia leaving, they had the sense to lock their reddit to calm things down. Leaving it unlocked just makes negativity ferment further, and worse off other Niji EN members will eventually get caught in the crossfire.
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Post by animaniac on Feb 5, 2024 21:17:39 GMT -5
And Niji just dropped a new merchandise announcement. Hilarious.
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Feb 5, 2024 22:13:21 GMT -5
This just keeps snowballing:
-at least two cosplayers who had worked with Selen on live action-type videos said they never signed NDAs for their work, because Anycolor sent them both forms with incorrect information multiple times
-multiple artists who've made art for Selen, like stream assets and schedule screens, have said that Selen had to pay them out of her own pocket, because Anycolor was months behind on payment
-Along with Ike and Rosemi, Alban and Victoria have both announced that they're taking a break from their socials
-Ver and Hex have both made vague tweets that may be referencing the current situation: Ver referenced a New Year's Resolution stream he did where he encouraged his fans to come to conclusions from their own reasoning and to speak up if they see something that goes against their morals, and Hex tweeted "the truth shall set you free" (it's not clear if either of these tweets are pro-Selen or pro-Niji)
-Ren seems to be the only Liver so far who's expressed dissatisfaction with Anycolor's decision (though it's vague enough that it COULD be a pro-Niji tweet, rather than pro-Selen)
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Post by Duke Cameron on Feb 6, 2024 6:32:47 GMT -5
Only VTuber I watch is Ironmouse.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 6, 2024 6:40:04 GMT -5
Only VTuber I watch is Ironmouse. Got into Ironmouse when I kept seeing her clips and when she won content creator of the year Since I've watched her clips, and others closer to her, Conner, Henya, Matara, Melody, Zen, basically that tree of V Tubers make some pretty funny content and isolated clips/edited videos for funny moments. And some others too whenever they might pop up, but Ironmouse's story is so fascinating once you kinda deep dive on it. Insane singing talent too that's only gotten better as her health has recovered.
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Post by Hurbster on Feb 6, 2024 16:43:53 GMT -5
One thing I have learned is that if you see Zentreya with a shovel - run.
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Post by animaniac on Feb 6, 2024 21:31:30 GMT -5
They took it down But Anycolor really released a one sentence statement saying getting rid of Selen won't hurt them financially. Yikes!
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