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Post by The Captain on May 4, 2022 18:34:05 GMT -5
Frankly if this is all they are showing after this much development time its not going to be very good. I mean I wouldn't go that far. It's been in development for what? Only 2 years? And then you have a pandemic on top of that? Making a brand new game from the ground up takes a very long time in normal times. 2-3 years is about standard development time for your typical major release these days. And that isn't factoring in things that cause delays like the pandemic and other issues.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 4, 2022 18:51:25 GMT -5
I’ve said this before but I feel like there are still way too many people who don’t fully understand how game development up and down the industry works and what it takes to make a game to a certain standard.
I spent a few years hanging at game events and personally know a good few indie developers and I have no idea how game development works. Might as well be freaking magic.
And hey, this game could suck and be a glitchy mess. It’s just hard to tell with how little we know besides leaks and such.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 4, 2022 18:59:47 GMT -5
I feel like I’m crazy but I’m not seeing No Mercy from the gameplay. Like maybe the blocking strikes part but the rest of the gameplay looks closer to a SVR to me
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Post by The Captain on May 4, 2022 19:06:12 GMT -5
I’ve said this before but I feel like there are still way too many people who don’t fully understand how game development up and down the industry works and what it takes to make a game to a certain standard. I spent a few years hanging at game events and personally know a good few indie developers and I have no idea how game development works. Might as well be freaking magic. And hey, this game could suck and be a glitchy mess. It’s just hard to tell with how little we know besides leaks and such. I have a friend that works for a major studio. It's nuts how involved game development at that level is.
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Post by Dub H on May 4, 2022 19:24:53 GMT -5
I’ve said this before but I feel like there are still way too many people who don’t fully understand how game development up and down the industry works and what it takes to make a game to a certain standard. I spent a few years hanging at game events and personally know a good few indie developers and I have no idea how game development works. Might as well be freaking magic. And hey, this game could suck and be a glitchy mess. It’s just hard to tell with how little we know besides leaks and such. I only work on educational games, so I cant speak on high level stuff but the amount of work a "polish" is. It is very well possible AEW has all the mechanics and modes working but it needs "polish" to make it feel good. But I also dont think it has been enough time unless they have a big ass team working non-stop
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Post by Ringmaster on May 4, 2022 23:45:15 GMT -5
I feel like I’m crazy but I’m not seeing No Mercy from the gameplay. Like maybe the blocking strikes part but the rest of the gameplay looks closer to a SVR to me I need to know how the 'This will be a no mercy clone' mindset started. Kenny has said repeatedly he's using that game and others as inspiration.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 4, 2022 23:52:08 GMT -5
The graphics look like the 2008 PS3 quality. Like it just doesn't look where it needs to be if this game is releasing in September.
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Post by Dub H on May 5, 2022 1:00:31 GMT -5
I feel like I’m crazy but I’m not seeing No Mercy from the gameplay. Like maybe the blocking strikes part but the rest of the gameplay looks closer to a SVR to me I need to know how the 'This will be a no mercy clone' mindset started. Kenny has said repeatedly he's using that game and others as inspiration. Even if he did there is clearly not enough gameplay to tell how its gonna play.
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Post by Ringmaster on May 5, 2022 1:24:04 GMT -5
The graphics look like the 2008 PS3 quality. Like it just doesn't look where it needs to be if this game is releasing in September. It's meant to be arcade-style.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 7, 2022 23:00:57 GMT -5
If there's any truth to the "Omega and the developers are clashing" I could see it being over him backtracking on how the models looked originally, saying they'd make them look more realistic...that's a pretty damn big thing to drop on developers. Like literally everything has to be redone at that point. I feel like I’m crazy but I’m not seeing No Mercy from the gameplay. Like maybe the blocking strikes part but the rest of the gameplay looks closer to a SVR to me I need to know how the 'This will be a no mercy clone' mindset started. Kenny has said repeatedly he's using that game and others as inspiration. they mentioned No Mercy by name a few times and hired the director from it... so that's kinda where it came from.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 7, 2022 23:18:52 GMT -5
Honestly I've kind of always been assuming that this thing will end up probably playing more like a Day of Reckoning clone than anything. That's kind of what I expect out of the idea of Yukes trying to make an AKI game.
In general there's kind of a hard line on how arcadey I like my wrestling games to get. Something like No Mercy or the early SmackDown games, I'm here for it, but when it starts playing like All Stars, nah, sorry, that shit doesn't feel like wrestling.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 7, 2022 23:33:12 GMT -5
Honestly I've kind of always been assuming that this thing will end up probably playing more like a Day of Reckoning clone than anything. That's kind of what I expect out of the idea of Yukes trying to make an AKI game. In general there's kind of a hard line on how arcadey I like my wrestling games to get. Something like No Mercy or the early SmackDown games, I'm here for it, but when it starts playing like All Stars, nah, sorry, that shit doesn't feel like wrestling. Also as much as I like No Mercy... there are some parts of the controls really show their age... since again it's from 22 years ago.
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Post by Ringmaster on May 7, 2022 23:51:29 GMT -5
If there's any truth to the "Omega and the developers are clashing" I could see it being over him backtracking on how the models looked originally, saying they'd make them look more realistic...that's a pretty damn big thing to drop on developers. Like literally everything has to be redone at that point. I need to know how the 'This will be a no mercy clone' mindset started. Kenny has said repeatedly he's using that game and others as inspiration. they mentioned No Mercy by name a few times and hired the director from it... so that's kinda where it came from. That's fair. Admittedly he has brought it up a lot. Imo, I think there going for the feel of the game and not so much the look. Action Arcade Wrestling is a good comparison, it's not remotely realistic looking but looks to be a blast to play.
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Post by Hypnosis on May 13, 2022 9:34:39 GMT -5
This was posted in the WWE games thread, but since it involves Yukes, who's developing the AEW game, I thought I'd put this here, too: realsport101.com/wwe2k/aew-fight-forever-game-designer-bryan-williams-yukes-2k-wwe-2k23/I have to be honest, I'm not sure what the best solution for this game is given the conflict between Yukes and Omega, and now Bryan Williams' departure. Scrapping it and going with a different developer for a new game may be easier said than done, but if Fight Forever is released in September as it is now, it may cost AEW even more money, should the game be full of bugs, or even just lacking replay value due to a limited number of modes. Hopefully something can be worked out so that AEW's first console game isn't a total bust, either way.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 13, 2022 10:08:02 GMT -5
I’ll keep asking; who are these outlets, how credible are they and what stories have they broken?
Like, for all the bashing some people do about Meltzer and such, I can reference stories they’ve reported on.
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Post by Spiderf 4 on May 13, 2022 10:44:37 GMT -5
I’ll keep asking; who are these outlets, how credible are they and what stories have they broken? "Did you, uh, hear about how Bruce Lee's family was banned from playing Street Fighter?"
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Post by Chainsaw on May 13, 2022 15:09:22 GMT -5
I’ll keep asking; who are these outlets, how credible are they and what stories have they broken? Like, for all the bashing some people do about Meltzer and such, I can reference stories they’ve reported on. I will say, it seems reeeeeally convenient that they happened to release that story the morning of AEW's announcement about the game. A lot of people pointed to the site that published it that they seemed to get a lot of stuff right about 2K22, but... I mean, who provided them with that info? Coupled with Xavier just happening to bring back UUDD at the exact same time that the announcement was happening, it's really hard to not have the conspiracy hat on and take the story with a grain of salt.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 13, 2022 15:30:28 GMT -5
Honestly I've kind of always been assuming that this thing will end up probably playing more like a Day of Reckoning clone than anything. That's kind of what I expect out of the idea of Yukes trying to make an AKI game. In general there's kind of a hard line on how arcadey I like my wrestling games to get. Something like No Mercy or the early SmackDown games, I'm here for it, but when it starts playing like All Stars, nah, sorry, that shit doesn't feel like wrestling. Also as much as I like No Mercy... there are some parts of the controls really show their age... since again it's from 22 years ago. One off the top of my head being running grapples being kind of awkward.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2022 15:31:15 GMT -5
I’ll keep asking; who are these outlets, how credible are they and what stories have they broken? Like, for all the bashing some people do about Meltzer and such, I can reference stories they’ve reported on. I will say, it seems reeeeeally convenient that they happened to release that story the morning of AEW's announcement about the game. A lot of people pointed to the site that published it that they seemed to get a lot of stuff right about 2K22, but... I mean, who provided them with that info? Coupled with Xavier just happening to bring back UUDD at the exact same time that the announcement was happening, it's really hard to not have the conspiracy hat on and take the story with a grain of salt. The source listed in the article www.sportsgamersonline.com/ is legit...They would be the equivalent to Operation Sports. Also Bryan Williams twitter confirms changes are afloat.
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Post by The Captain on May 13, 2022 15:33:02 GMT -5
I've never heard of any of those places.
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