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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 19, 2021 20:43:40 GMT -5
Given how badly the GTA 3+ re-release went, Bioware actually killed it. Indeed. There's been a lot of grousing online about not enough being fixed by BioWare, especially some of the bugs that carried over from the originals, and people are especially bitter about multiplayer and the Pinnacle Station DLC being absent, but as far as remasters go this is one of the better ones.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 19, 2021 23:36:19 GMT -5
Given how badly the GTA 3+ re-release went, Bioware actually killed it. Indeed. There's been a lot of grousing online about not enough being fixed by BioWare, especially some of the bugs that carried over from the originals, and people are especially bitter about multiplayer and the Pinnacle Station DLC being absent, but as far as remasters go this is one of the better ones. It helped that they probably didn't have as much to do compared to the GTA3 trilogy, especially since they didn't have to change the core engine or anything. The Mass Effect games also looked great for their time whereas the GTA3+ games sacrificed graphics for the sheer size of the world.
Also helped that they actually put some kind of real effort into it instead of giving it to an AI. The UI/QoL changes to ME1 were also nice. Though Pinnacle Station not being in couldn't be helped because they literally didn't have the source code anymore.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 19, 2021 23:51:30 GMT -5
Though Pinnacle Station not being in couldn't be helped because they literally didn't have the source code anymore. That hasn't stopped manbabies on Reddit and YouTube going "Modders managed to do it in six months in their spare time, why couldn't a billion-dollar company do it?" and vowing not to give BioWare another penny. Even the modders responsible for bringing Pinnacle Station into LE themselves are pointing out that a) the port was done with custom-built modding tools that probably wouldn't be compatible with the tools BioWare used to build the remaster, and b) the port is kinda broken and requires about double the specs the base game requires to run an even somewhat unstable framerate.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 20, 2021 0:23:56 GMT -5
Though Pinnacle Station not being in couldn't be helped because they literally didn't have the source code anymore. That hasn't stopped manbabies on Reddit and YouTube going "Modders managed to do it in six months in their spare time, why couldn't a billion-dollar company do it?" and vowing not to give BioWare another penny. Even the modders responsible for bringing Pinnacle Station into LE themselves are pointing out that a) the port was done with custom-built modding tools that probably wouldn't be compatible with the tools BioWare used to build the remaster, and b) the port is kinda broken and requires about double the specs the base game requires to run an even somewhat unstable framerate. Yeah, from what I've read, the Pinnacle Station mod is essentially a remake and they needed to build it from the ground up.
It's funny how people are complaining like that, though. Do they even remember how Pinnacle Station played? It sucked. Even if they had the source code and put it in ME1 LE, I'd probably ignore it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 20, 2021 0:54:26 GMT -5
Yeah, from what I've read, the Pinnacle Station mod is essentially a remake and they needed to build it from the ground up.
It's funny how people are complaining like that, though. Do they even remember how Pinnacle Station played? It sucked. Even if they had the source code and put it in ME1 LE, I'd probably ignore it.
The majority of the mod is more or less a straight port, but the lighting system has been built from scratch to mirror the lighting system in LE, but because the lighting system in LE hasn't been totally figured out by modders yet the mod isn't optimised, hence the requirement of a super high spec system to run it properly. People get real precious about weird shit. Why bother with Pinnacle Station when the Citadel DLC does both a combat simulator and an apartment better?
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Nov 20, 2021 3:43:55 GMT -5
Why do people care that pinnacle station wasn't in this? It was just a combat sim and it ain't like ME1 had the greatest combat system that you were like oh let me sink a bunch of extra time into this.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 20, 2021 4:40:56 GMT -5
I didn't even play Pinnacle Station when it was new... I had already beaten Mass Effect and didn't see the need to go back and do a combat simulator... I can see people wanting it due to it being part of the original game... but Bring down the sky was far more important of a DLC than Pinnacle was. that said... third playthrough update... Ship retaken... traitor killed with one of my favorite Renegade quips ... next stop... all the stuff on the strip and Party... then eventually maybe I'll go back again but not for a while... though if I do I'm returning to something that lets me use my Sniper Rifle... I miss blowing peoples heads off so much
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 30, 2021 15:49:23 GMT -5
Debating whether to buy a beefy gaming PC...
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Post by Cyno on Nov 30, 2021 16:15:35 GMT -5
Reading about all the stuff planned for ME3 but left on the cutting room floor because of EA being EA is pretty crazy. Like all those "probe planets to get things" side quests were meant to be fully fleshed out side quests where you'd go planetside and do a mission.
That ME3 is still a great game (original ending aside) despite all that is testament to how good Bioware was at the time. But it could've been an all-time great kind of game if EA weren't their usual shitty selves about it.
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Post by FinalGwen on Nov 30, 2021 16:21:07 GMT -5
Honestly I do miss the ME3 multiplayer, I've never been that into a multiplayer mode before, and loved playing as the different species. But at the same time, it's better for my wallet because boy did the microtransactions hit me hard.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 30, 2021 17:23:20 GMT -5
Honestly I do miss the ME3 multiplayer, I've never been that into a multiplayer mode before, and loved playing as the different species. But at the same time, it's better for my wallet because boy did the microtransactions hit me hard. Yeah, I Said it a few times. The Multiplayer was a lot of fun. "Tacked on" as it might have been they did put a decent amount of effort into it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 30, 2021 17:40:30 GMT -5
Reading about all the stuff planned for ME3 but left on the cutting room floor because of EA being EA is pretty crazy. Like all those "probe planets to get things" side quests were meant to be fully fleshed out side quests where you'd go planetside and do a mission. That ME3 is still a great game (original ending aside) despite all that is testament to how good Bioware was at the time. But it could've been an all-time great kind of game if EA weren't their usual shitty selves about it. The EAing of Mass Effect 3 still makes me angry. So very many missed opportunities in a single game.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 30, 2021 17:58:46 GMT -5
MP was fun. Only real problem I had was the boneheaded idea of tying it into the single player Readiness stat and the ending you get. Which also strikes me as an "EA being EA" situation. At least the Extended Ending patch changed that up so you didn't have to touch it.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Dec 18, 2021 7:12:48 GMT -5
I’ve started playing this today. I don’t suppose there’s a way to turn off the codex voice? I can read a heck of a lot faster than he can talk so I end up muting it so get it read
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Post by Cyno on Dec 18, 2021 15:17:08 GMT -5
I’ve started playing this today. I don’t suppose there’s a way to turn off the codex voice? I can read a heck of a lot faster than he can talk so I end up muting it so get it read No way to turn it off, but it only exists in the primary entries for ME1 and ME2. Secondary entries don't have it. ME3's codex doesn't have it at all.
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Post by Rave on Dec 18, 2021 23:54:32 GMT -5
Though Pinnacle Station not being in couldn't be helped because they literally didn't have the source code anymore. That hasn't stopped manbabies on Reddit and YouTube going "Modders managed to do it in six months in their spare time, why couldn't a billion-dollar company do it?" and vowing not to give BioWare another penny. Even the modders responsible for bringing Pinnacle Station into LE themselves are pointing out that a) the port was done with custom-built modding tools that probably wouldn't be compatible with the tools BioWare used to build the remaster, and b) the port is kinda broken and requires about double the specs the base game requires to run an even somewhat unstable framerate. I'm guessing those manchildren have never modded before. If I were them, I'd be over the moon that modders were able to accomplish something of that scale in just under two months, especially on a game from a publisher that's as mod-unfriendly as EA is. I've seen projects take years even on mod-friendly games. There's one for Morrowind that's been in development for most of my life and it's not even close to fully finished.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 19, 2021 0:19:15 GMT -5
I'm guessing those manchildren have never modded before. If I were them, I'd be over the moon that modders were able to accomplish something of that scale in just under two months, especially on a game from a publisher that's as mod-unfriendly as EA is. I've seen projects take years even on mod-friendly games. There's one for Morrowind that's been in development for most of my life and it's not even close to fully finished. The one thing I will give EA the tiniest sliver of credit for is not going after the modding community the way Take Two did with the GTA mods.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Dec 28, 2021 14:11:43 GMT -5
So I completed Mass Effect
First time I played it a few years ago since started with #2 since #1 originally was XBox exclusive. I thought it was alright but I dunno if I really got into it but this time I really did and my 25 hours flew by
Especially since I had forgotten the point of no return mission and was caught by surprise when I realised I was on track to battle Saren like I thought I was still a way away from it
Last time I played I remember Saren fight being annoying but kinda steamrollered over him this time. Dunno if I didn’t have a good build last time but yeah was no trouble at all
Started #2 now and actually having ammo counters is a bit jarring this time as I got used to not having them in #1
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 4, 2022 16:14:08 GMT -5
Anyone who's been curious about this it's going up on Gamepass on the 6th.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 4, 2022 16:18:31 GMT -5
It's also 50% off on Steam as part of the Winter sale, though I think that ends on Thursday.
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