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Post by thechase on Jan 18, 2022 1:00:57 GMT -5
I won't if they don't. I have reasons to be cynical. But yeah, yeah...another thread for another day... You can't insult the Snyder Cult here. They're among us. We've found the sus imposter!
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 18, 2022 1:34:50 GMT -5
"Guys I HAD to sexually abuse women! You don't understand, if I didn't then I wouldn't be a man!" In his undeserved defense, I don't thiiiiiink any of the affairs he's talking about have been described as abuse by any of the other people involved. Although he certainly seems to have something on his conscience about explicitly wielding his position and power, and throwing tantrums in public is a pretty common manipulation tactic. The thing that blows my mind about that quote is him talking about these beautiful women who ignored him when he was younger... and he was MARRIED. It wasn't that women ignored him, it was that the women who didn't ignore him weren't, in his mind, "good enough," even though he married one of them.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 18, 2022 1:42:12 GMT -5
It mystifies me that he clearly thinks he's the real victim in this situation. Never underestimate that man's ego.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 18, 2022 3:48:51 GMT -5
"Guys I HAD to sexually abuse women! You don't understand, if I didn't then I wouldn't be a man!" In his undeserved defense, I don't thiiiiiink any of the affairs he's talking about have been described as abuse by any of the other people involved. Although he certainly seems to have something on his conscience about explicitly wielding his position and power, and throwing tantrums in public is a pretty common manipulation tactic. Yeah, while the rest is pretty inexcusable, by all accounts the affairs he had were entirely consensual, though that doesn't deflect from the fact that he was cheating on his wife.
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Post by pinja on Jan 18, 2022 4:32:26 GMT -5
Him: "Affairs on set mess up the power dynamic." Me: Oh, so he does understand. Him: "They left me powerless." Me: Oh.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 18, 2022 23:12:18 GMT -5
Him: "Affairs on set mess up the power dynamic." Me: Oh, so he does understand. Him: "They left me powerless." Me: Oh. That is pretty pathetic. "I felt like I had to sleep with them because I couldn't in the past"? That sounds like the talk of someone who never matured emotionally past an adolescent. Guess what Joss? The hot cheerleader types did not want to sleep with me when I was younger either. If they suddenly developed such a desire today I would not be the least bit interested (though I would be thoroughly confused, but to be fair I don't understand why my wife wishes to have sex with me either). I would not be interested because they would not have a couple of decade's worth of shared experiences like my wife does. The fact that you "felt obligated" to sleep with them while being married speaks incredibly poorly of you.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 18, 2022 23:56:05 GMT -5
A more pertinent question is whether those actresses felt obligated to sleep with him
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 19, 2022 16:00:04 GMT -5
A more pertinent question is whether those actresses felt obligated to sleep with himIt was apparently young actresses and crew members. I'm also certain that at least some, if not all, felt as though it was not in their best interests to chose to not have a relationship with him.
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Post by y4j1981 on Jan 20, 2022 15:50:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 16:29:44 GMT -5
I have no idea what on earth he was trying to accomplish with the interview. Its so tone death, so lacking in self-awareness, so utterly arrogant and self-serving.
He might be the first person where 'cancelling sticks
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 20, 2022 17:42:02 GMT -5
The thing with Whedon specifically is that even from a cold business perspective, he's not worth the trouble to any major studio or company. The MCU has clearly moved on from him, Warner Bros will not choose him over Gadot, and even small scale TV companies (the only ones that still be interested in his name value) would be taking a gamble in terms of press with hiring him.
Realistically whatever he could offer as a writer or director could likely from numerous other people with far less bad press.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 20, 2022 18:18:06 GMT -5
if he keeps opening his mouth like this instead of just letting it go away it won't get better.
But he's rich enough and has his own production to pretty much get a project going on his own, if he can wait a bit and pull of something even halfway decent a lot of people will forget/overlook he's a terrible person.
It happens a lot in Hollywood even now... I mean Mel Gibson still gets work.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 20, 2022 18:22:49 GMT -5
This guy still has a career. Whedon will be back at some point.
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Post by eJm on Jan 20, 2022 18:34:44 GMT -5
This guy still has a career. Whedon will be back at some point. I really, really, really hate to defend Mel Gibson and I absolutely cannot stress that enough but… Gibson kept his mouth shut. From what I remember, after everything happened, he stayed out of the limelight and that counted as “forgiveness” apparently, but that’s what happened.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 20, 2022 18:37:47 GMT -5
This guy still has a career. Whedon will be back at some point. I really, really, really hate to defend Mel Gibson and I absolutely cannot stress that enough but… Gibson kept his mouth shut. From what I remember, after everything happened, he stayed out of the limelight and that counted as “forgiveness” apparently, but that’s what happened. Yeah, that was part of my point as well... if he stops talking about it and just focuses on making new projects on his own, Whedon could probably slide back into having a career. Pieces like this? Not so much...
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 20, 2022 18:38:56 GMT -5
I really, really, really hate to defend Mel Gibson and I absolutely cannot stress that enough but… Gibson kept his mouth shut. From what I remember, after everything happened, he stayed out of the limelight and that counted as “forgiveness” apparently, but that’s what happened. He did, but as much of an egomaniac that Whedon is, he's not stupid. He'd have to be a complete moron to not see how much this interview backfired, and if he's got an even half-awake PR firm behind him he'll have gotten the message to either beg forgiveness or STFU for a couple more years.
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Post by eJm on Jan 20, 2022 18:43:34 GMT -5
I really, really, really hate to defend Mel Gibson and I absolutely cannot stress that enough but… Gibson kept his mouth shut. From what I remember, after everything happened, he stayed out of the limelight and that counted as “forgiveness” apparently, but that’s what happened. He did, but as much of an egomaniac that Whedon is, he's not stupid. He'd have to be a complete moron to not see how much this interview backfired, and if he's got an even half-awake PR firm behind him he'll have gotten the message to either beg forgiveness or STFU for a couple more years. I mean, if you’re saying to the public “I wanted to have sex with the women on set I worked with even I didn’t actually have sex with them”, you don’t really come off like you’re smart especially if the likelihood of your end game is working with women again. Never mind all the backstage stuff which, again, HATE defending Gibson here, he at least also hasn’t been a shithead on set.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 20, 2022 19:07:29 GMT -5
Love how that whole interview was "I'm not a bad guy like this person suggests, who on an unrelated note is dumb/bad at acting/probably runs over puppies in their spare time". It's very sleazy politician like. Insult someones character under the guise of making a good point.
Now wondering what to do with all my Buffy/Angel merch.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 20, 2022 19:19:57 GMT -5
He's too much of a proven success to be blackballed from an industry as sleazy as Hollywood. He'll most likely end up writing and creating for one of the streaming services under a pseudonym.
If there's money to be made, someone will find a role for him.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 21, 2022 8:31:08 GMT -5
Never mind all the backstage stuff which, again, HATE defending Gibson here, he at least also hasn’t been a shithead on set. well, unless you're Joel Esterhaz.
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