mattperiolat
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Post by mattperiolat on Feb 10, 2021 13:36:16 GMT -5
Charisma Carpenter has gone public accusing Whedon of inappropriate behavior around her on both shows for five years. apple.news/AiaaIvDVFRi-br66rVnM4mQI actually immediately believe her especially regarding her pregnancy because Whedon has behaved like that before. During commentary track for Age of Ultron, Whedon talked about the plans he had for the Black Widow character in the sequel, then stated “Then she had to go and get herself pregnant.” Jokes or no, it’s disrespectful at best. And honestly, this is starting to become a pattern for Joss. Not good. At all.
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Post by grunt on Feb 10, 2021 13:44:02 GMT -5
I'm tempted to say "what else is new ?" since most of this abuse was already known and talked about amongst fans, viewers and press... but i'm mostly annoyed that this will undoubtedly be used as a smoking gun and an endorsement by the Snyder/Fischer crowd, to crap even more on the Josstice League, and be even more unsufferable.
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 10, 2021 13:45:15 GMT -5
My only worry is, and I thought of this when I saw Fisher mentioned, is how the Snyderists will treat this.
Just because you join others in decrying one bully, doesn't make you not a bully. Trust me, I've seen several examples.
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Post by crowley1986 on Feb 10, 2021 13:46:11 GMT -5
I'm tempted to say "what else is new ?" since most of this abuse was already known and talked about amongst fans, viewers and press... but i'm mostly annoyed that this will undoubtedly be used as a smoking gun and an endorsement by the Snyder/Fischer crowd, to crap even more on the Josstice League, and be even more unsufferable. outspoken male feminist not practicing what he preaches shocker
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Post by Cyno on Feb 10, 2021 13:46:40 GMT -5
I thought Carpenter went public about this already? Either that or it's one of the worst kept secrets in the entertainment industry.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Feb 10, 2021 13:48:31 GMT -5
As someone in the industry - Joss Whedon has ALWAYS been a piece of shit. People I know have told me that he was regarded as a f***ing asshole even while Buffy was on the air.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 10, 2021 14:07:09 GMT -5
I thought Carpenter went public about this already? Either that or it's one of the worst kept secrets in the entertainment industry. Yeah I’ve known this forever..I thought she went public with this an eternity ago. Joss did Charisma dirty and he’s a piece of shit for it but it doesn’t mean I still don’t think Ray Fisher has been a little bitch the entire time with his equivalent of Vaguebooking.
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Post by eJm on Feb 10, 2021 14:10:06 GMT -5
I thought Carpenter went public about this already? Either that or it's one of the worst kept secrets in the entertainment industry. The first person to really say something, I believe, was Joss’ ex wife with her own allegations a couple of years ago.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Feb 10, 2021 14:11:11 GMT -5
And now Amber Benson has tweeted in support calling Buffy a toxic environment. My heart goes out to them.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Feb 10, 2021 14:14:42 GMT -5
I thought Carpenter went public about this already? Either that or it's one of the worst kept secrets in the entertainment industry. Yeah I’ve known this forever..I thought she went public with this an eternity ago. Joss did Charisma dirty and he’s a piece of shit for it but it doesn’t mean I still don’t think Ray Fisher has been a little bitch the entire time with his equivalent of Vaguebooking. She went public with her frustration over how Cordelia's story ended and she very strongly hinted that her pregnancy was a part of reason why she felt Joss wrote her off. This is the first time I think she's gone public about being abused by Whedon.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 10, 2021 14:22:48 GMT -5
Yeah I’ve known this forever..I thought she went public with this an eternity ago. Joss did Charisma dirty and he’s a piece of shit for it but it doesn’t mean I still don’t think Ray Fisher has been a little bitch the entire time with his equivalent of Vaguebooking. She went public with her frustration over how Cordelia's story ended and she very strongly hinted that her pregnancy was a part of reason why she felt Joss wrote her off. This is the first time I think she's gone public about being abused by Whedon. That sounds about right. I think I had convinced myself that she was let go because of her pregnancy all along after some of those interviews.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 10, 2021 14:24:59 GMT -5
It really sucks because interviews at the time really gave the impression that the cast enjoyed themselves. Which I guess can still be true, but it sucks if there was a looming toxicity from the man that preached the opposite the whole time.
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Post by cosmo on Feb 10, 2021 14:29:40 GMT -5
Hasn't it already been pretty well known for years that Joss Whedon is kind of a shithead?
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Feb 10, 2021 14:35:50 GMT -5
Charisma Carpenter has a legit grievance while Ray Fisher is a petty little bitch
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 10, 2021 14:41:58 GMT -5
I'm confused, why are people dunking on Ray Fisher when Charisma has shown support for him?
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Post by BorneAgain on Feb 10, 2021 14:45:12 GMT -5
I'm confused, why are people dunking on Ray Fisher when Charisma has shown support for him? Honestly I think the controversy about the Snyder Cut has poisoned pretty much all the discourse related to Justice League, Fisher included. The fact that some people's biggest lament from this will be that pro-Snyder people will potentially gain ground tells you how toxic it's gotten. I can't speak to the veracity of the guy's claims but what Carpenter's said along with Whedon's ex wife at the very least suggests that dubious behavior from Joss is not out of the question.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Feb 10, 2021 15:02:26 GMT -5
I thought Carpenter went public about this already? Either that or it's one of the worst kept secrets in the entertainment industry. Yeah I’ve known this forever..I thought she went public with this an eternity ago. Joss did Charisma dirty and he’s a piece of shit for it but it doesn’t mean I still don’t think Ray Fisher has been a little bitch the entire time with his equivalent of Vaguebooking. Yeah same. I’m normally the last to know about stuff like this but when I read the statement I was “Hasbf this already been put out there” I didn’t know the exact details and not to detract from what she is saying but yeah at very least I thought it was known how much of a PoS he was behind the scenes and that he bullied Charisma especially Wonder if Boreanaz, Geller etc will say anything (Not saying that have to, just wonder if they will)
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 10, 2021 15:29:21 GMT -5
I'm confused, why are people dunking on Ray Fisher when Charisma has shown support for him? Her own statement doesn't exactly strengthen Fisher's case. He's made a ton of vague claims and boasts of dozens of people coming forward to back him up in the subsequent investigation, yet this investigation appears to be dragging up everybody who's ever had a grievance with Whedon rather people who can verify what did or did not go down on the Justice League set. Whedon's an egomaniacal piece of shit, this hasn't been in doubt for over a decade, but when calling the public to hold people accountable for their actions you have to know what you're holding them accountable for. Victimising Charisma Carpenter and firing her for getting pregnant? Absolutely hold him accountable. Nebulous accusations of abuse from a guy who admits he fought against saying his character's innocuous one-word catchphrase because he felt it was a racist caricature? Gonna need a little more to go on before I decide the line between asshole and abuser was crossed.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 10, 2021 15:47:59 GMT -5
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Feb 10, 2021 15:54:04 GMT -5
Well that escalated quickly.
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