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Post by Cyno on Feb 17, 2021 23:58:29 GMT -5
Like Daniel Bryan and Edge, I don't think Sting would be allowed to take bumps if he wasn't cleared to do so by doctors.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 18, 2021 0:06:26 GMT -5
Like Daniel Bryan and Edge, I don't think Sting would be allowed to take bumps if he wasn't cleared to do so by doctors. Basically this. He would have probably had to go through several doctors, physicians, and even contact drills to prove he can still healthily work If Sting still needs the neck fusion surgery is neither here nor there if he's been cleared to return to the ring as he is now.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 18, 2021 0:10:26 GMT -5
I like to think they had to talk Sting out of taking the Drill Claw.
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Post by moxfan1 on Feb 18, 2021 0:11:03 GMT -5
What reports? Edge is main eventing Wrestlemania he has had way more neck issues then Sting. Edge even had to have surgery on it because the pain was so bad. While Sting has never had to have surgery. He's rehabbed it and has had no pain at all for years. So if Edge gotten better enough after 8 and half years away from the ring. It's quite possible Sting has as well. Heck Sheamus just pinned WWE Champion on Monday. He missed 8 months rehabbing the same injury in 2019. Sting is also turning 62 years old next month. And I believe he does need the fusion surgery but is putting it off as long as he can. Edge is going to be 48 and his neck is way worse off then Sting despite the age. Due to all the multiple surgeries he's had on it in his career. Plus I'm sure Sting will take much less bumps then Edge plans to or already has. Who's older doesn't matter if younger guy neck is way more screwed up then older guy. Doctors said in the past that Sting will probably need surgery one day. But he's feeling great and has had no issues or pain at all since late 2015 or few months after Rollins match. So he has no plans on getting the surgery right now and was even told by Steve Austin. That he shouldn't unless he was in really bad pain. Since Sting joined AEW I've listen to many interviews he's done since the injury. He's since for years he thinks he could still wrestle but isn't going to. AKA WWE wouldn't let him, even though he kept pushing for Taker match. But now that there another big company around. Well that clearly changed things for him.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Feb 18, 2021 0:13:26 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 18, 2021 0:18:51 GMT -5
Sting is also turning 62 years old next month. And I believe he does need the fusion surgery but is putting it off as long as he can. Edge is going to be 48 and his neck is way worse off then Sting despite the age. Due to all the multiple surgeries he's had on it in his career. Plus I'm sure Sting will take much less bumps then Edge plans to or already has. Who's older doesn't matter if younger guy neck is way more screwed up then older guy. Doctors said in the past that Sting will probably need surgery one day. But he's feeling great and has had no issues or pain at all since late 2015 or few months after Rollins match. So he has no plans on getting the surgery right now and was even told by Steve Austin. That he shouldn't unless he was in really bad pain. Since Sting joined AEW I've listen to many interviews he's done since the injury. He's since for years he thinks he could still wrestle but isn't going to. AKA WWE wouldn't let him, even though he kept pushing for Taker match. But now that there another big company around. Well that clearly changed things for him. And considering some of the bumps Edge has already taken, I think Sting will be fine. Plus Sting can always work more technical matches in AEW. AEW isn't all spotfests, Riho and Deeb proved how awesome technical wrestling can be. Pretty sure FTR has facing Sting on their Bucket list.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 0:20:28 GMT -5
I am so happy that A. Sting is getting to go out on his own terms and seems genuinely healthy and happy and B. He's being used like a legend and icon should be: We all love seeing him, but he's also on the downhill trajectory of his in-ring career, so he's here to give Darby and Team Taz the rub. I'm looking forward to this match. Sting has that kind of charisma that as long as he can hit people with a bat and the Scorpion Death Drop, I'll always watch. I do imagine that Brian Cage was told in no certain terms that it better be one of the safest powerbombs of his life, assuming he didn't know that already. The grapefruits of the guy: I cannot imagine the pressure of delivering Stings first bump after the Seth Rollins match stuff. Cage worries me from the standpoint of HIS health, but I've watched the guy since Lucha Underground. He seems to be safe as houses.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 0:23:07 GMT -5
I hope Sting knows what he's doing. By all reports he is not in the best of shape, to put it mildly. That's the thing, even if he was in perfect shape and didn't have years of wear and tear on his body, I still don't think a 61 year old person should be taking powerbombs, or any bumps really. I always cringed when Vince in his later years would take bumps and of course the Mae Young/Dudley stuff. Where do you draw the line? If a 65 year old is still able to walk do we let them take moves? 70? 75? You don't miraculously "recover" from spinal stenosis. It's a permanent condition. You can do your best to manage it but it doesn't go away and there's always a high risk of having bad episodes with it for the average person, let alone a wrestler taking bumps on their back. I'm honestly shocked that a doctor somewhere has seemingly cleared him to get physical. I thought for sure he would do a cinematic match and wouldn't take any real hits.
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Post by Celgress on Feb 18, 2021 0:24:53 GMT -5
The reports are all over the Internet look for them. Sting is older than both of these guys and has been wrestling longer. I also don't agree with Edge putting himself at risk for the ever-shrinking E audience. I worry about his health as much as I do Sting's. Only reports are from 2015. Nothing recently on his health or status. Besides Sting saying he feels good and thinks he could still do it. Excuse me if I'm worried about the man's health. Pro Wrestling has a long sordid history of performers taking risks they shouldn't because no one will say no to them.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 18, 2021 0:26:05 GMT -5
Cage's powerbombs look brutal but I'm guessing are safer than they look.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 18, 2021 0:27:21 GMT -5
I hope Sting knows what he's doing. By all reports he is not in the best of shape, to put it mildly. That's the thing, even if he was in perfect shape and didn't have years of wear and tear on his body, I still don't think a 61 year old person should be taking powerbombs, or any bumps really. I always cringed when Vince in his later years would take bumps and of course the Mae Young/Dudley stuff. Where do you draw the line? If a 65 year old is still able to walk do we let them take moves? 70? 75? You don't miraculously "recover" from spinal stenosis. It's a permanent condition. You can do your best to manage it but it doesn't go away and there's always a high risk of having bad episodes with it for the average person, let alone a wrestler taking bumps on their back. I'm honestly shocked that a doctor somewhere has seemingly cleared him to get physical. I thought for sure he would do a cinematic match and wouldn't take any real hits. Dude, doctors offiically cleared Ric Flair to take bumps after he almost died of his health issues. Wrestling has a means of danger to it, but it's not boxing or MMA. And that alone more than proves it. I think Sting will be fine, or he wouldn't be doing it, and no one would have signed off on it otherwise. It's gonna be like when Edge and Bryan returned, everyone's gonna hold their breath, but in the end they're more than ok. I get Sting's older, but still, he ain't gonna be taking any more Buckle Bombs that's for damn sure.
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Post by moxfan1 on Feb 18, 2021 0:30:34 GMT -5
Like Daniel Bryan and Edge, I don't think Sting would be allowed to take bumps if he wasn't cleared to do so by doctors. Basically this. He would have probably had to go through several doctors, physicians, and even contact drills to prove he can still healthily work If Sting still needs the neck fusion surgery is neither here nor there if he's been cleared to return to the ring as he is now. Yes there's ways to rehab it and it can improve some. Especially if he's not wrestling and taking bumps for years. In 2015 it was bad enough where Sting shouldn't wrestle. But it's clearly better then it was in 2015. The fact Sting never had to have surgery and is pain free for over 5 years. Is big sign that rehab helped and it's gotten better. Without us needing to see any doctor reports. That said once he starts taking bumps again and having matches. Well we will see how he's doing. Which is why I still think he will have majority of cinematic matches or gimmick matches. But regular tag matches and regular singles match here and there. Well I can see them happening. Like you know Cody will want to face Sting in regular one on one match for example.
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Post by toodarkmark on Feb 18, 2021 0:44:20 GMT -5
I hate this old man shaming some people do. Let the wrestler and their doctors decide whats right. Lou Thesz worked Masa Chono when he was 74. The Sheik, Dory Funk Jr., Antonio Inoki, Jerry Lawler, Rock n Roll Express, Haku, all old, all working or worked older.
Stop gatekeeping. Older people are humans too, and can get over injuries and still work matches if they're fit. Don't use internet reports to justify ageism.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 0:46:51 GMT -5
Sting doesn't come across like Terry Funk or any of those other guys who would rather die in the ring than at home in bed.
If I had to guess, he didn't like the way he went out in WWE, wants to do some light work to get some younger guys over, and then gets the retirement sendoff.
Basically, I have to trust Steve Borden to know his body.
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Post by moxfan1 on Feb 18, 2021 0:48:10 GMT -5
Only reports are from 2015. Nothing recently on his health or status. Besides Sting saying he feels good and thinks he could still do it. Excuse me if I'm worried about the man's health. Pro Wrestling has a long sordid history of performers taking risks they shouldn't because no one will say no to them. That's understandable. The thing is Sting likely isn't poor. Even if he needed money he could still have Legends deal with WWE. While if he wanted to end his career on positive note. He could have came to AEW for 6 months did big match or two. Then retired once and for all. If he came in and some street fight with Jericho. Then had final single match with Cody and retired on a high note. Yet the guy signed multi-year deal to be on tv every week and to wrestle. He clearly feels good and got at least decent reports from the doctors. That he could still wrestle once and while and should be just fine. While from AEW point of view. They aren't letting him take bumps like tonight or wrestle unless he's cleared by a top doctor to do so. If Sting came to AEW and got seriously hurt taking bump like tonight. AEW would have shit storm on their hands. So there's no way that happens unless some top doctor gave the ok. I remember hearing FTR saying they wanted match with Rock and Roll Express. But Tony Khan wouldn't put them in a match. Due to their age and physical condition. Yet they still wrestle Indies and NWA recently. So it comes down to it. If Sting feels good and doctors say he can do it. Well I have no problem with him still wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 0:49:40 GMT -5
I like to think they had to talk Sting out of taking the Drill Claw. "I want to take a Drillclaw" "Steve.. no, we're not doing tha-" "Fine, how about the Indytaker?" "That's a really high risk move Steve, maybe just a powerbo-" "Fine. One Winged Angel through the table. If Sammy can do it, so can I!!"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 0:56:21 GMT -5
As a final note, just because I don't want to spam messages, I sincerely think and hope that all parties involved here know what they can and can't do.
We're not gonna get 97 Sting. And you know what? That's okay. Darby is young and an absolute lunatic, so I'm sure he'll be the one getting yeeted like he got shot out of a cannon while Sting takes much, much safer bumps.
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Feb 18, 2021 2:07:59 GMT -5
I'm sure he's cleared for it, but I was definitely not expecting him to take a powerbomb.
It was a weird enough moment to begin with, as Sting's one of my all-time favorites whilst Cage is my least favorite performer in AEW. Having both of them in the same segment is like eating cake while doing my taxes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 2:32:33 GMT -5
I hate this old man shaming some people do. Let the wrestler and their doctors decide whats right. Lou Thesz worked Masa Chono when he was 74. The Sheik, Dory Funk Jr., Antonio Inoki, Jerry Lawler, Rock n Roll Express, Haku, all old, all working or worked older. Stop gatekeeping. Older people are humans too, and can get over injuries and still work matches if they're fit. Don't use internet reports to justify ageism. It’s not shaming at all. Have you never had an older relative that you’ve had to tell to slow down because you were worried they were overdoing it? Even just basic stuff like trying to lift something a little too heavy for them. Now multiply that by 100 when it’s a 60+ pro wrestler putting their body on the line. Now multiply it by 1000 when it’s a wrestler who already had a huge health scare 6 years ago and is obviously even older now. Wrestling is a dangerous sport. One freak/bad bump can end in tragedy for anyone of any age but when you’re dealing with people in their 50s and 60s there’s a MUCH greater risk of something going wrong. That’s not shaming. That’s human physics. Sting can do what we wants. He’s obviously willing to take the risk but people don’t have to be happy about it. As a fan I personally dread watching matches with older, broken down guys like this. Do you have any idea the pain Terry Funk is in daily because he didn’t know when to stop? Undertaker’s last matches were a sad sight and he was clearly in pain as was Ric Flair in his TNA run and Misawa’s last few years and they were all younger than Sting is now and didn’t have spinal stenosis. It’s not like there should be some set in stone rule like, “hey grandpa, you turned 50, no more matches for you!” Everything is a case for case basis but surely common sense has to come into play at some point and we accept that 60 or 70 year olds having professional wrestling matches isn’t a smart thing to do.
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Post by Ryushinku on Feb 18, 2021 4:13:02 GMT -5
Schiavone mentioned on the postshow that Sting getting powerbombed by Cage was Sting's idea, and assures everyone that Sting isn't hurt at all. Knew it, knew he wanted an "Im back and healthy" spot. I thought this was the case as well. Although more like "healthier", since Father Time and a perforated bump card can't be undone. I really don't think this means he's going to be pinballing about and merrily taking powerbombs into turnbuckles and through tables, hell, it may even be a bigger bump than he takes in the upcoming match. But getting treated like finest bone china is likely not what he wants either. While I will remain concerned about what he can physically do, I'm trusting he's being sensible about this and that those around him are being very careful as well.
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