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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 11, 2021 22:41:51 GMT -5
For the love of God please don't start that here. Don't turn this into AEW vs WWE. That **** is old and played out and its only been a year and a half I wasn't trying to. I think it isn't strictly an "AEW vs. WWE" thing, but rather how one company ends angles with satisfactory finishes vs. the WWE approach.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 11, 2021 22:48:19 GMT -5
Led by heel world and tag champs. If you watch it for more than an episode you'll know they lean into the heels getting their comeuppance. I know, Its a wacky concept but it's working for them Watched every episode and PPV.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 22:49:32 GMT -5
The elite stuff is rough... and there’s tons of questionable bookings. Hope you enjoy heel stables we have eight! Their biggest stable is a face stable, and they constantly set their heels up to fall and reap what they sow. That's all I'll say on the matter. To be honest I don’t which group your even talking about. But we can debate that later in a AEW thread. I apologize for biting on the AEW vs. WWE commenting. There’s stuff I love and hate about both companies. WWE really showed that this weekend. With fun and enjoyable night one and questionable night two. I look forward to what they do with the new champions, and excited for the post mania stuff this week. It was just a lot of heels winning all at once, not to say my favorites lost, it just kinda made the show a bit of a bummer. I’m currently cleaning my palate with a new episode of ROH on my local Sinclair station.
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Post by Chiral on Apr 11, 2021 22:50:00 GMT -5
Like did both heel men's world champs need to retain?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 22:51:05 GMT -5
Honestly WWE seems to actively f***ing despise the idea of heroes who are competent. In the past decade there's been, what, Drew and Becky as it in terms of faces having long, successful title runs (and I hesitate to count Becky because in the last seven months of her reign she defended the belt twice)? In between that has been an endless crushing weight of Brock, Brock some more, Roman, Bayley, Shayna, Jinder had it for entirely too long, Cole, Charlotte, Nikki.... It's CONSTANT that the faces in this company are complete goddamn losers.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 11, 2021 22:52:01 GMT -5
Weird flex to end the first live show in over a year on a kayfabe downer note, but okay.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 11, 2021 22:53:07 GMT -5
Honestly WWE seems to actively f***ing despise the idea of heroes who are competent. In the past decade there's been, what, Drew and Becky as it in terms of faces having long, successful title runs (and I hesitate to count Becky because in the last seven months of her reign she defended the belt twice)? In between that has been an endless crushing weight of Brock, Brock some more, Roman, Bayley, Shayna, Jinder had it for entirely too long, Cole, Charlotte, Nikki.... It's CONSTANT that the faces in this company are complete goddamn losers. Vince did a 180 and now enjoys the NWA booking with the heel champ leading the territory.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 11, 2021 22:53:21 GMT -5
Y’all worried about heels and faces when really every superstar was a face tonight In some way cause they fed off the crowd
It was all about entertainment as opposed to who’s what
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 11, 2021 22:54:35 GMT -5
Y’all worried about heels and faces when really every superstar was a face tonight In some way cause they fed off the crowd It was all about entertainment as opposed to who’s what You can't tell wrestling fans that, ever, we're way too opinionated a bunch
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 22:55:20 GMT -5
Y’all worried about heels and faces when really every superstar was a face tonight In some way cause they fed off the crowd It was all about entertainment as opposed to who’s what Okay, and how about the other decade or so of the heroes all being useless f***ing idiots because WWE is only concerned with relentlessly chasing heat? The only thing separating Roman Reigns from Jinder Mahal is being more competent in the ring.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 11, 2021 22:55:47 GMT -5
Led by heel world and tag champs. I don't wanna turn this into a WWE and AEW war but AEW has been good about giving comeuppance to the heels while WWE has given me zero faith they can do the same. I’d say it’s equal rate. Just had McIntyre have a near year long reign, Asuka the same. Face Bianca won the Rumble and title. Heel Jericho won a lot of his feuds, heel Omega over Moxley, heel MJF over Cody. They’ve done the big face wins more in the undercard, similar to the E.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 11, 2021 22:56:31 GMT -5
Y’all worried about heels and faces when really every superstar was a face tonight In some way cause they fed off the crowd It was all about entertainment as opposed to who’s what Okay, and how about the other decade or so of the heroes all being useless f***ing idiots because WWE is only concerned with relentlessly chasing heat? The only thing separating Roman Reigns from Jinder Mahal is being more competent in the ring. Is that really it? Not the fire character, charisma and promos?
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Post by BatPunk on Apr 11, 2021 22:57:21 GMT -5
I think my biggest gripe about Mania is that it’s supposed to be a show where all the stories are coming to an end and it’s a chance for WWE to have some blow off matches and then hit the reset button the next week.
It hasn’t felt like that in a while. All these stories feel like they’re going to continue and some of them have definitely worn out their welcome.
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Apr 11, 2021 22:57:44 GMT -5
Y’all worried about heels and faces when really every superstar was a face tonight In some way cause they fed off the crowd It was all about entertainment as opposed to who’s what Literally tho I forgot until this thread that Lashley was even a heel cause him winning hit like every feel good box for me
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 11, 2021 22:58:10 GMT -5
I think some of it was just some acts also just not having momentum at the time either. Like I am still really enjoying Roman as Champ, but Edge lost all momentum really quick... as did Bryan. Some of that is WWE's fault but some isn't either.
At the same time I think in pretty much every match the heel won except the Ortom/Fiend match.... the heel was the right choice to win IMO.
Honestly looking over 2 nights I do think the right decision was made for who won
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 11, 2021 23:00:16 GMT -5
Y’all worried about heels and faces when really every superstar was a face tonight In some way cause they fed off the crowd It was all about entertainment as opposed to who’s what Okay, and how about the other decade or so of the heroes all being useless f***ing idiots because WWE is only concerned with relentlessly chasing heat? The only thing separating Roman Reigns from Jinder Mahal is being more competent in the ring. Nobody cares tho I promise you not a soul left disappointed Roman won. People were taking the bets in the stands to see who would win and when Roman won it was like oh Shit he’s the man
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 11, 2021 23:01:22 GMT -5
I think my biggest gripe about Mania is that it’s supposed to be a show where all the stories are coming to an end and it’s a chance for WWE to have some blow off matches and then hit the reset button the next week. It hasn’t felt like that in a while. All these stories feel like they’re going to continue and some of them have definitely worn out their welcome. They’ll seemingly be continuing this year as the next PPV is titled “WrestleMania Backlash”
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 11, 2021 23:01:35 GMT -5
I'm not even mad. Edge and Bryan went crazy during that match and Roman's like "f*** you both, I rule this shit." I only expect Edge to become completely unhinged after this. It's like some of you just like to be miserable tbh. People who wanna be miserable reading this
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 11, 2021 23:02:55 GMT -5
I think my biggest issue is that you had Roman beat your top two babyfaces like they were Ryback jobbers. Who is left? Big E is in midcard land with Apollo. It just felt like they could have done something to keep one of them strong. I also don’t think you have Roman stack up the two feel-good babyface stories when fans won’t be back for months. Seemed short-sighted.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 11, 2021 23:03:45 GMT -5
MVP should hire Hayley Williams and form Misery Business.
1.. 2...
You hear the clock tickin'?
TICK TOCK...
WOAH I NEVER MEANT TO BRAG!
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