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Post by deezy on Jun 4, 2021 23:23:09 GMT -5
Please get f***ing rid of him Was he on a mission to namedrop EVERY dead wrestler who was in the KKK? I honestly think he doesn't think about someone's personal life when he is comparing them or their wrestling moves to today's wrestlers and their moves. Yeah he could be more aware when he name drops but I don't think he is intentionally doing any harm.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 4, 2021 23:25:04 GMT -5
Was he on a mission to namedrop EVERY dead wrestler who was in the KKK? I honestly think he doesn't think about someone's personal life when he is comparing them or their wrestling moves to today's wrestlers and their moves. Yeah he could be more aware when he name drops but I don't think he is intentionally doing any harm. This is where I'm at I said it in the live thread but what casual fans are going to know about Dick Murdoch or Killer Karl Kox and their pasts? The smarky corners of the internet might know, but it's not like he's actively out there saying racist shit he's comparing wrestling moves and matches to people of the past. Those people unfortunately had bad personal lives or ties. But I can't imagine JR's doing it in a way to PUSH those beliefs whatsoever.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jun 4, 2021 23:26:02 GMT -5
I honestly think he doesn't think about someone's personal life when he is comparing them or their wrestling moves to today's wrestlers and their moves. Yeah he could be more aware when he name drops but I don't think he is intentionally doing any harm. This is where I'm at I said it in the live thread but what casual fans are going to know about Dick Murdoch or Killer Karl Kox and their pasts? The smarky corners of the internet might know, but it's not like he's actively out there saying racist shit he's comparing wrestling moves and matches to people of the past. Those people unfortunately had bad personal lives or ties. But I can't imagine JR's doing it in a way to PUSH those beliefs whatsoever. Kox is, uh, kind of easy to figure out once you see the name.
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 4, 2021 23:26:07 GMT -5
Like, how do they get rid of him? It's all obviously passed him by, he hurts the product, he's obviously obsessed with mentioning wrestlers who were in the KKK, but he's got the contract and he's Jim f'n Ross. He can't be fired. He is literally the worst thing about AEW IMO. He does suck more when it's late nights and PPVs. Shanna, Kong are buddies with the EVP and they got fired, Hebner also got fired despite being "Earl Hebner", they will let him go once his deal is up. Shanna was a bully, and didn't get over, and lives in France. Earl Hebner and Amazing Kong only worked in 2019, and were gone for a year and a half before letting their contracts expire. Jim Ross is there everyday. He's interviewed by big publications. He's a huge part of everything. It's going to be SUPER HARD to stop using him. It could even be messy.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Jun 4, 2021 23:26:47 GMT -5
Was he on a mission to namedrop EVERY dead wrestler who was in the KKK? I honestly think he doesn't think about someone's personal life when he is comparing them or their wrestling moves to today's wrestlers and their moves. Yeah he could be more aware when he name drops but I don't think he is intentionally doing any harm. I think he thinks he’s making a real honest compliment.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 4, 2021 23:27:16 GMT -5
This is where I'm at I said it in the live thread but what casual fans are going to know about Dick Murdoch or Killer Karl Kox and their pasts? The smarky corners of the internet might know, but it's not like he's actively out there saying racist shit he's comparing wrestling moves and matches to people of the past. Those people unfortunately had bad personal lives or ties. But I can't imagine JR's doing it in a way to PUSH those beliefs whatsoever. Kox is, uh, kind of easy to figure out once you see the name. Yeah but who is actively even thinking about that or searching him up was my thinking? It's the most in passing comments ever and he's not dwelling on it That being said I said this also in the live thread: JUST SAY "KARL KOX" MAN IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Jun 4, 2021 23:28:49 GMT -5
There’s no way in hell JR is mentioning Kox and Murdoch because he agrees with their KKK views. We really need to drop that shit. The issue with that should be his lack of self awareness by mentioning them rather than this ridiculous take that JR is suddenly a massive racist.
Now I’m seeing people equating it to him mentioning wrestlers blue eyes. A thing he did decades ago to put over Steve Austin having ice cold blue eyes. It’s silly and we need to give JR more credit than that.
Was he garbage tonight ? Yes. Is he a racist dick head name dropping KKK members as some sort of racist endorsement ? Absolutely not
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 4, 2021 23:30:05 GMT -5
"Oh Jim!"
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jun 4, 2021 23:31:01 GMT -5
He had a weird night where he said some really weird shit but also really got into certain parts of the show, more than usual. More bad than good but he was lively at least.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 23:31:35 GMT -5
There’s no way in hell JR is mentioning Kox and Murdoch because he agrees with their KKK views. We really need to drop that shit. The issue with that should be his lack of self awareness by mentioning them rather than ridiculous take that JR is suddenly a massive racist. Now I’m seeing people equating it to him mentioning wrestlers blue eyes. A thing he did decades ago to put over Steve Austin having ice cold blue eyes. It’s silly and we need to give JR more credit than that. Was he garbage tonight ? Yes. Is he a racist dick head name dropping KKK members as some sort of racist endorsement ? Absolutely not I don't think anyone's outright saying it's a racist move, more just a very head-tilting and problematic one that he constantly references those two in particular. Once or twice, whatever, that's fine. Making a consistent trend of comparing people specifically to those two, with mentioning Murdoch in particular multiple times tonight, when he has to have heard some of the previous outcry about them just feels like a stubborn old man being spiteful. Which would hardly be out of character given how obstinate he can be on many other things.
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 4, 2021 23:31:37 GMT -5
Was he on a mission to namedrop EVERY dead wrestler who was in the KKK? I honestly think he doesn't think about someone's personal life when he is comparing them or their wrestling moves to today's wrestlers and their moves. Yeah he could be more aware when he name drops but I don't think he is intentionally doing any harm. Listen, I'm SUPER FORGIVING about a lot of things. But he brings up Kox ALOT. Like at least 5 or 6 times. More than Bill Watts, or Ernie Ladd, or Mr. Wrestling II, or Magnum TA, or Eddie Gilbert, or any of the other greats he both called and refed. But he keeps bringing up Kox. I don't want to project, I certainly don't like to think ill, but I do think he's doing it on purpose because he doesn't like how PC things have gotten. Maybe I'm wrong, but just watch how he will bring him up again. I hope I'm wrong. I'll happily be wrong. I try to be as positive as I can, but I really do think he's doing it on purpose. I watched him for YEARS on NWA, Mid-South and WCW. He NEVER brought up Kox, and now every fourth show in 2021 he's bringing him up? And Dick Murdoch?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 4, 2021 23:32:08 GMT -5
He had a weird night where he said some really weird shit but also really got into certain parts of the show, more than usual. More bad than good but he was lively at least. He had a weird energy. He wasn't checked out at all in fact he was actively into everything. More so than sometimes has been the usual. Which I think also threw some people off. Like the Ticketmaster sell was quite legendary lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 23:35:28 GMT -5
The problem is that JR, especially the 70-year-old version, commentates in tropes.
One of his tropes right now is “Karl Kox = brainbuster.” So any time he sees a brainbuster, he’s gonna make that reference. It’s just that this one is way more problematic than “bah gawd that man as a family” or “bah gawd it’s a slobberknocker.”
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Post by 4TheGlory on Jun 4, 2021 23:37:05 GMT -5
The problem is that JR, especially the 70-year-old version, commentates in tropes. One of his tropes right now is “Karl Kox = brainbuster.” So any time he sees a brainbuster, he’s gonna make that reference. It’s just that this one is way more problematic than “bah gawd that man as a family” or “bah gawd it’s a slobberknocker.” I also don’t think AEW has someone producing the show in the ears of the commentators the same way WWE does. So what we end up getting is a lot more improv and unfiltered moments by JR
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jun 4, 2021 23:38:19 GMT -5
There’s no way in hell JR is mentioning Kox and Murdoch because he agrees with their KKK views. We really need to drop that shit. The issue with that should be his lack of self awareness by mentioning them rather than this ridiculous take that JR is suddenly a massive racist. Literally nobody is saying that.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Jun 4, 2021 23:39:56 GMT -5
There’s no way in hell JR is mentioning Kox and Murdoch because he agrees with their KKK views. We really need to drop that shit. The issue with that should be his lack of self awareness by mentioning them rather than this ridiculous take that JR is suddenly a massive racist. Literally nobody is saying that. There absolutely are people that think JR is intentionally mentioning them for out of touch racist reasons. Much lesser so on here but on the Twitter wrestling hell scape, absolutely
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jun 4, 2021 23:40:22 GMT -5
The problem is that JR, especially the 70-year-old version, commentates in tropes. One of his tropes right now is “Karl Kox = brainbuster.” So any time he sees a brainbuster, he’s gonna make that reference. It’s just that this one is way more problematic than “bah gawd that man as a family” or “bah gawd it’s a slobberknocker.” This honestly feels like the best way to put it. I've said before that JR in the past many years now has sounded the most like his commentary in a video game, and really not in a good way. That's partially how his intonation and his enthusiasm are in the basement, but also he's just delving into such complete repetition on everything he says that you could really just have a Jim Ross soundboard that Excalibur hits buttons on while the real Jim Ross lies blacked out in his chair.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jun 4, 2021 23:44:56 GMT -5
I put this in the show thread but it should go here as well:
From the mind of JR:
@.JRsBBQ: Hey you little internet shits, everyone has an off night! It's 3000 degrees and I hadn't had my sauce! #BoomerMySooner #BoomerSooner #HagerForChamp #InternetDweebs #SauceIt #KillerKarlKoxNeverDealtWithThisShit
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Post by Fade on Jun 4, 2021 23:48:35 GMT -5
Jim was on a GOOD one tonight. Not sure what it was but lol..
Im sad I missed the ticket master soliloquy.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jun 4, 2021 23:52:24 GMT -5
The problem is that JR, especially the 70-year-old version, commentates in tropes. One of his tropes right now is “Karl Kox = brainbuster.” So any time he sees a brainbuster, he’s gonna make that reference. It’s just that this one is way more problematic than “bah gawd that man as a family” or “bah gawd it’s a slobberknocker.” Yeah I dont think he realizes what he's saying about Killer Karl Kox. He's just known as the brain buster inventor. I dodnt know about his KKK affiliation until today
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