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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jun 9, 2021 16:12:52 GMT -5
Loved it. Reminded me of Umbrella Academy in a really positive way. If any TVA Agents have a Goldfish Bowl for a head, |
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Post by Larryhausen on Jun 9, 2021 19:33:00 GMT -5
{Spoiler}love the nod to Jurassic Park. Right down to the narrator having a Southern Accent. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 19:55:32 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}So this is technically Loki's 2nd time through the TVA and the "evil" Variant is very likely the one that went through this the first time and is now setting out with his knowledge now to take down the TVA and as 2nd Variant Loki eluded to...making his own choice and the whole bit about freedom etc.
It would sort of explain why Mobious is so very upbeat and chipper around him...taking a different approach to this Loki than maybe how he did it more by the strict rules the first time and knows exactly the point where Loki chooses the evil path and in the ironic sense I guess diverge from the path....or maybe Mobious did not get to actually interact with the original variant and saw how that went to shit and intervened with this one.
But either way the TVA atleast this version is getting burned to the ground by the end. Oh and idk if anyone else caught it. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}The end of the film strip after it finishes playing is labled "ETH-616 Loki Laufeyson".....whats very interesting about that is the MCU is confirmed desgination is Earth 9999. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jun 9, 2021 21:01:55 GMT -5
Off to a good start. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}And something for Agents of SHIELD anoraks, as the subject of Coulson's murder at Loki's hands is brought up and even shown. Not even a passing mention of Coulson surviving, but then, that'd defeat the logic of pointing out that the murder brought the Avengers together and would undermine the conversation Mobius was having with Loki {Spoiler}I thought for a second they might mention it but as you said...it would have taken away from what Mobius was going for with Loki. Makes me wonder though what the TVA thinks about the events of AoS Season 7. Did it happen like it was supposed to or did the TVA have to reset things somewhere along the line? |
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Post by RKTaker on Jun 9, 2021 21:46:59 GMT -5
{Spoiler}i have a feeling agent Mobius isn’t making it through this series |
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Post by RKTaker on Jun 9, 2021 21:52:31 GMT -5
Off to a good start. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}And something for Agents of SHIELD anoraks, as the subject of Coulson's murder at Loki's hands is brought up and even shown. Not even a passing mention of Coulson surviving, but then, that'd defeat the logic of pointing out that the murder brought the Avengers together and would undermine the conversation Mobius was having with Loki {Spoiler} well nobody except Colson’s team knew that he was alive not even the Avengers, i guess the TVA would but 2012 Loki absolutely does not |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jun 9, 2021 22:59:35 GMT -5
One thing that did bother me though... {Spoiler}...is the whole Infinity Stone gag. Infinity Stones missing from their timeline causes a major bad branch of reality. The TVA doesn’t like reality branching...so how are they cool with all of the crappy realities caused by those missing stones? |
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Post by Rican on Jun 9, 2021 23:06:15 GMT -5
One thing that did bother me though... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}...is the whole Infinity Stone gag. Infinity Stones missing from their timeline causes a major bad branch of reality. The TVA doesn’t like reality branching...so how are they cool with all of the crappy realities caused by those missing stones? {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}My understanding is that once the variant has been arrested they "reset" the timeline so it goes back to however it was before the variant got the stone. I need to watch it again and time travel/alt reality stuff is always confusing so I may have that wrong but that's how I took it.
I really really loved the first episode. Already more into this than the previous two MCU shows and I LOVED WandaVision. Very excited for how the rest of this plays out. |
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Post by RKTaker on Jun 9, 2021 23:06:38 GMT -5
One thing that did bother me though... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}...is the whole Infinity Stone gag. Infinity Stones missing from their timeline causes a major bad branch of reality. The TVA doesn’t like reality branching...so how are they cool with all of the crappy realities caused by those missing stones? {Spoiler} they have been shown to "reset the timeline" whatever that means so I guess they get the stones reset the TImeline then they can't do anything with the stones so they just keep them |
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jun 9, 2021 23:13:27 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}BTW, for reference, not including the Tesseract itself, we see 7 Time Stones, what looks like 2 Space Stones, 3 Power Stones, 6 Reality Stones, 2 Soul Stones (which is very odd, considering we've only seen them legit two times), but no Mind Stone, which makes me think, based on what we saw in Infinity War, that the Mind Stone is actually legit technology, and I'm betting it was placed in the scepter by the Time Keepers, and we know Thanos gave Loki the scepter, which makes me think Loki was meant to have the scepter all along, and while we think that the Tesseract was what started this all off, what if it was the Mind Stone instead?
Actually, there is at least one Mind Stone present, but it’s actually on a damned desk being used a paperweight! |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jun 9, 2021 23:27:08 GMT -5
One thing that did bother me though... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}...is the whole Infinity Stone gag. Infinity Stones missing from their timeline causes a major bad branch of reality. The TVA doesn’t like reality branching...so how are they cool with all of the crappy realities caused by those missing stones? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}My understanding is that once the variant has been arrested they "reset" the timeline so it goes back to however it was before the variant got the stone. I need to watch it again and time travel/alt reality stuff is always confusing so I may have that wrong but that's how I took it.
I really really loved the first episode. Already more into this than the previous two MCU shows and I LOVED WandaVision. Very excited for how the rest of this plays out. {Spoiler}What I get from it is the TVA’s powers are more powerful than the Stones and that the Ancient One’s worries are bunk. Basically there’s never any worry about what happens to any timeline if the TVA can effectively kill those branches and neuter the power of the stones. |
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Post by Rican on Jun 9, 2021 23:43:29 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}My understanding is that once the variant has been arrested they "reset" the timeline so it goes back to however it was before the variant got the stone. I need to watch it again and time travel/alt reality stuff is always confusing so I may have that wrong but that's how I took it.
I really really loved the first episode. Already more into this than the previous two MCU shows and I LOVED WandaVision. Very excited for how the rest of this plays out. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}What I get from it is the TVA’s powers are more powerful than the Stones and that the Ancient One’s worries are bunk. Basically there’s never any worry about what happens to any timeline if the TVA can effectively kill those branches and neuter the power of the stones. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Yeah I did wonder about that and I assume it gets addressed in the next Doctor Strange movie. Like who has jurisdiction on which parts of the multiverse I guess lol |
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Post by Larryhausen on Jun 9, 2021 23:59:18 GMT -5
{Spoiler}if Loki was DB Cooper, what other unsolved crimes from history could have been him?
Was he Jack The Ripper? Did he disguise himself as Brutus(not The Barber)? I hope we get more scenes like that. |
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Post by mrtuesday on Jun 10, 2021 1:53:48 GMT -5
Off to a good start. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}And something for Agents of SHIELD anoraks, as the subject of Coulson's murder at Loki's hands is brought up and even shown. Not even a passing mention of Coulson surviving, but then, that'd defeat the logic of pointing out that the murder brought the Avengers together and would undermine the conversation Mobius was having with Loki {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I thought for a second they might mention it but as you said...it would have taken away from what Mobius was going for with Loki. Makes me wonder though what the TVA thinks about the events of AoS Season 7. Did it happen like it was supposed to or did the TVA have to reset things somewhere along the line? {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Agents of SHIELD isn't Canon to the MCU. Only Marvel Studios productions are. So just the movies and the Disney+ shows. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jun 10, 2021 2:18:41 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I thought for a second they might mention it but as you said...it would have taken away from what Mobius was going for with Loki. Makes me wonder though what the TVA thinks about the events of AoS Season 7. Did it happen like it was supposed to or did the TVA have to reset things somewhere along the line? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Agents of SHIELD isn't Canon to the MCU. Only Marvel Studios productions are. So just the movies and the Disney+ shows. {Spoiler}Thats still not necessarily true...not at all. Many people just assume Feige is ignoring all of the series that Marvel now has total control of because the international Disney + lists AoS under the Legacy listing with the X-Men and Fantastic Four films. It’s not on D+ in the US but Agent Carter, Runaways and *shudder* Inhumans are under a Marvel live series listing. Feige was 100% involved with Agent Carter and Peggy and the Howling Commandos were involved in early AoS as well. Not to mention the D+ listing theory can be countered with the fact that some long time Marvel games now list Agents, Luke Cage, Daredevil and the such under “Marvel Studios’’” for certain costumes.
Plus if “Far From Home” makes the first five Spidey movies canon through the Multiverse then EVERYTHING is canon to a degree. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 10, 2021 7:15:38 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}i have a feeling agent Mobius isn’t making it through this series So far he doesn't seem to have as many dimensions as the other characters. (That's supposed to be a math joke, but since math class is hazy it is also probably wrong) |
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jun 10, 2021 7:23:32 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}As with the stones being nullified. I know they said magic doesn't work there, which I guess the stones would count as, but it does bring to mind the idea in the comics of how the Infinity Stones (or Gems) don't work outside their own universe as well. So stones from Earth 756 won't work on Earth 498. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 10, 2021 7:31:01 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}As with the stones being nullified. I know they said magic doesn't work there, which I guess the stones would count as, but it does bring to mind the idea in the comics of how the Infinity Stones (or Gems) don't work outside their own universe as well. So stones from Earth 756 won't work on Earth 498. {Spoiler} Or how Darkseid couldn’t use the Infinity Gauntlet in his own universe in JLA/Avengers.
I just wanted an excuse to reference JLA/Avengers |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 10, 2021 7:34:24 GMT -5
Lesson there, kids; doing good things rewards you.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jun 10, 2021 8:11:48 GMT -5
{Spoiler}if Loki was DB Cooper, what other unsolved crimes from history could have been him?
Was he Jack The Ripper? Did he disguise himself as Brutus(not The Barber)? I hope we get more scenes like that. {Spoiler}Loki isn't old enough to be involved in Ancient Roman politics. Also, everything seems to suggest that he lived a fairly non-violent life before (he felt) the first Thor movie forced his hand. I really doubt he was secretly a serial killer. Nobody got hurt by DB Cooper. It was just a massive prank befitting the God of Mischief. |
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