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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jun 25, 2021 12:13:33 GMT -5
He is why, We are bored, Title reign we can just ignore.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2021 14:19:35 GMT -5
I haven't seen his pre-NXT stuff, but "badass MMA guy with a spooky entrance" comes across as super indy-riffic. His gimmick is an ICP "Hatchet Man" t-shirt away from being 80% of the gimmicks you'll see on the free show at your local Buffalo Wild Wings parking lot.
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Post by BatPunk on Jun 25, 2021 14:51:52 GMT -5
I like him fine. NXT are still finding their way with the gimmick, but it’s got good bones. I see him more as a video game Final Boss type. They could use Scarlett more effectively. She can be more of a force on the outside. She’s got some wrestling skills, not amazing, but serviceable.
I think there’s more of a “Why is he such a big deal and have the title?” Question and it’s fair because his character isn’t completely fleshed out and over.
But I think he’ll get bigger and better as time goes on.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 25, 2021 22:32:34 GMT -5
Anyone else feel like we get a long Karrion Kross thread about how he doesn't work by the week?
That's not telling at all!
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jun 25, 2021 22:40:59 GMT -5
Anyone else feel like we get a long Karrion Kross thread about how he doesn't work by the week? That's now telling at all! It’s my favorite weekly thread. 😂
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Post by r. on Jun 25, 2021 23:40:44 GMT -5
I haven’t payed him too much attention but to me he’s coming across as the most overrated IWC darling yet If Karrion Kross is an Internet darling, I’m the new lead guitarist of Mumford and Sons. Banjoist, You'd be the lead Banjoist
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Post by dpg on Jun 26, 2021 1:09:27 GMT -5
His entry on main event was awful, generic angry poses.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 2:29:51 GMT -5
Generic angry poses is all his entrance is anyway. There's all the pomp around him but if you actually watch him during it he just waves his arm around with no particular attempt to match with the music or anything else happening around him.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jun 26, 2021 6:10:25 GMT -5
What I really wanted to happen was, when he got injured, the Karrion Kross spirit left that body and inhabited, I dunno, Kushida or someone. So then HE has the gothic spookiness and Scarlet and the powers. And meanwhile, the MMA dude is now suddenly on his own and has this dilemma of whether to try to get the evil back so he has more strength, or to try to make a go on his own merits. But again, this would appeal to people who are paying attention to things for more than five seconds at a time, which is clearly not the audience they're going for. I’m not sure if Kross necessarily needs powers just because his and Scarlett’s entrance looks spooky. Him being a “tough wrestler guy” is fine, heck, it worked for Austin. The one thing he needs right now to make him stand out are some more interesting angles. That’s a complaint people would throw at Ember Moon and I never understood it (“Is she a vampire or demon?” they’d say, and I’d be like, who cares?) A wrestler’s aesthetic is by default, a huge part of their gimmick already. Now if the wrestler wants to be supernatural, that’s their choice, but as long as I can buy into them in a title fight, then the character is on the right trajectory.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jun 26, 2021 12:37:41 GMT -5
What I really wanted to happen was, when he got injured, the Karrion Kross spirit left that body and inhabited, I dunno, Kushida or someone. So then HE has the gothic spookiness and Scarlet and the powers. And meanwhile, the MMA dude is now suddenly on his own and has this dilemma of whether to try to get the evil back so he has more strength, or to try to make a go on his own merits. But again, this would appeal to people who are paying attention to things for more than five seconds at a time, which is clearly not the audience they're going for. I’m not sure if Kross necessarily needs powers just because his and Scarlett’s entrance looks spooky. Him being a “tough wrestler guy” is fine, heck, it worked for Austin. The one thing he needs right now to make him stand out are some more interesting angles. That’s a complaint people would throw at Ember Moon and I never understood it (“Is she a vampire or demon?” they’d say, and I’d be like, who cares?) A wrestler’s aesthetic is by default, a huge part of their gimmick already. Now if the wrestler wants to be supernatural, that’s their choice, but as long as I can buy into them in a title fight, then the character is on the right trajectory. The problem with this is what I said before: it's transparently just a grown-up drama nerd who's pretending to be a demon or something because he thinks it's bad-ass. And that's not cool or interesting. In fact, it's very very lame. And being Tough Wrestler Guy isn't what got Austin over. Dude had a very distinct character.
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Post by r. on Jun 26, 2021 21:21:41 GMT -5
Karrion Kross is that Caw you download on SVR that looks awesome but the creator left everything else default.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jun 26, 2021 22:49:39 GMT -5
I finally found a video of the Main Event entrance.
Dude is the CAWiest CAW that ever CAW’d.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 22:53:40 GMT -5
I finally found a video of the Main Event entrance. Dude is the CAWiest CAW that ever CAW’d. Here's a video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n3va7kl-qgIt's weird as hell without Scarlett.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jun 26, 2021 22:57:53 GMT -5
I finally found a video of the Main Event entrance. Dude is the CAWiest CAW that ever CAW’d. Here's a video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n3va7kl-qgIt's weird as hell without Scarlett. I just checked out one of his NXT entrances too. Scarlett was more interesting. Dude looks like Goldberg doing a Gillberg impression
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 26, 2021 23:03:32 GMT -5
wow they didn't even give him the black and white effect...
as I said when I first heard about it I said what little character he actually had was his entrance and they took away literally the only interesting parts about that...
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jun 26, 2021 23:53:10 GMT -5
I finally found a video of the Main Event entrance. Dude is the CAWiest CAW that ever CAW’d. Here's a video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n3va7kl-qgIt's weird as hell without Scarlett. Shelton Benjamin should have squashed that loser.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2021 0:25:02 GMT -5
Watching that Main Event entrance he looks like he's about to lose to Val Venis on Heat in 2007.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jun 27, 2021 0:42:53 GMT -5
Watching that Main Event entrance he looks like he's about to lose to Val Venis on Heat in in 2007. Imagine Val being around when they transitioned to Peacock.
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Post by DSR on Jun 27, 2021 0:51:23 GMT -5
I finally found a video of the Main Event entrance. Dude is the CAWiest CAW that ever CAW’d. Karrion CAWss!
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Post by DSR on Jun 27, 2021 0:54:39 GMT -5
I finally found a video of the Main Event entrance. Dude is the CAWiest CAW that ever CAW’d. Here's a video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n3va7kl-qgIt's weird as hell without Scarlett. The part where Karrion is beating his chest, and you see the screen behind him where the dude in the hat is shaking his head like "No." I'm agreeing with that dude!
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