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Post by Paul on Jul 22, 2021 2:53:52 GMT -5
Culture Club- "Waking Up with the House on Fire". It was a very rushed album and you can really tell. Nowhere near as good as their previous album ("Colour By Numbers"- which is one of my all-time favorite Pop albums).
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Jul 22, 2021 5:28:59 GMT -5
How about that U2 album everyone with an iPhone got and no one wanted? I have it but never actually listened to it. you mean the best album they released in twenty years headed by one of the best songs they've ever recorded? and how could it have bombed if it was FREE?
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Post by Flo360 on Jul 22, 2021 7:46:43 GMT -5
“The Ego Has Landed” by Robbie Williams. At the time I thought it was a shame, I felt it had a ton of good tracks on it. I know “Millennium” (which is a classic, IMO) and “Angels” got some buzz stateside, because EMI/Capitol were pushing him as part of the teen pop wave through his Take That background. But Robbie was coming in with this super self-deprecating personality ( like on "Strong" he goes “I get drunk and dance like me dad”) and most of the boy bands like N*SYNC and BSB were much more earnest, so I think people at first in America couldn’t quite figure him out. Plus he was this really cheeky Englishman sharing the airwaves with these rowdier acts like Eminem, Limp Bizkit and Kid Rock also blowing up in 1999 as well, so he really felt out of place. It is such a weird perspective, to read 'The Ego has landed' as an 'bomb' over there. That album is a f***ing legend in Europe. Like Angels still gets constant radio play.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Jul 22, 2021 7:49:18 GMT -5
Culture Club- "Waking Up with the House on Fire". It was a very rushed album and you can really tell. Nowhere near as good as their previous album ("Colour By Numbers"- which is one of my all-time favorite Pop albums). The War Song is so silly that I can’t even believe it was greenlit for an album, let alone that it was a hit.
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Post by crashmatsbazz on Jul 22, 2021 7:57:02 GMT -5
Yes Please! by The Happy Mondays If you haven’t seen the awesome film “24 Hour Party People”. I’ll sum up what happened.. Manchester record label “Factory Records” were haemorrhaging money and needed hits from their biggest acts New Order and The Happy Mondays. The Mondays wanted to record a new album in Barbados and the label let them as long as smack addicted lead singer Shaun Ryder got clean and he agreed. Problem was at the airport the methadone he was prescribed and to last the trip was somehow lost at the airport, then the Mondays spent most of the trip getting high and drunk… but they did manage to record some material… once they got back to Manchester, Ryder held the master tapes hostage and would not give them to the label unless they paid him some cash, the label relented and paid him about 50 pounds to get the tapes, Ryder agreed, and then they discovered there was no vocals recorded on any of the tracks, so they had to get Shaun back into a studio to record some. So of course the album was a disaster.. and was one of the factors that led to the demise of Factory Records. Everything that company did bombed. from The Durutti Column first album having sandpaper on the front and back (which was inspired by situationist Guy Debord's book "Mémoires", which was housed in a sandpaper cover to destroy other books on the shelf).... but the sandpaper was too heavy so would slowly warp the record thus making it a self destroying album rather than destroying other records on yourself, to the cost of New Order's -Blue Monday 12" (the biggest selling single in the UK at the time and factory lost money on every copy printed) even the building they worked out of cost them money! The lead roof, the table that cost £35,000! (FAC 331) and then you have that the constant numbering of things, like christmas cards, drawings of egg timers, anvils to commemorate New Order, Stuff that doesn't matter, your in Manchester in the 80s/90s! for god sake man, get your head out of your arse! the best thing they ever did though was not signing the Smiths, f*** Morrisey.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 22, 2021 9:29:51 GMT -5
Remember when Panic! at the Disco decided to call their emo fanbase "bullshit", drop the cabaret/electronic vibe they had and go for a Sgt Pepper's pastiche that sounded completely different?
Yeah, Pretty. Odd. sold horribly (though I'd say it has 2 actually decent singles on there, just not the lead one) and the argument about whether to continue with that sound or go back to their original one pretty much broke the whole band up.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 22, 2021 10:21:41 GMT -5
Iron Maiden
Virtual XI (1998)
Only got to I think about 16 in the UK.
I quite like that album.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 22, 2021 10:26:31 GMT -5
Remember when Panic! at the Disco decided to call their emo fanbase "bullshit", drop the cabaret/electronic vibe they had and go for a Sgt Pepper's pastiche that sounded completely different? Yeah, Pretty. Odd. sold horribly (though I'd say it has 2 actually decent singles on there, just not the lead one) and the argument about whether to continue with that sound or go back to their original one pretty much broke the whole band up. Either way probably would have been better than Brendon Urie: the sad pop sellout years.
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Jul 22, 2021 16:36:51 GMT -5
Katy Perry’s Witness. “Chained to the Rhythm” was a big hit, but the entire album was just some sort of vanity project for a rich white woman who seemed to have gotten the slightest realization of her privilege for the first time. While we are talking rich privileged white women, Madonna's American Life and Liz Phair's third album... the one where she raps about her record company and uses the line, "You're being a penis... colada that is". Really, we should just get everyone of Todd in the Shadows Trainwreckord videos out of the way. Ooh, those were good episodes, then the newest one about the Spin Doctors shooting themselves in the dicks with a album like "Turn It Upside Down" that appealed to exactly zero of their fanbases (the jam band following they had when they started and the mainstream one that totally didn't include me I don't know what you're talking about besides I was like 12 at the time when "Two Princes" came out and didn't know what to make of their first single). They were positioned to at least be a commercially successful band that carved a different path, but they blew it and had to watch Dave Matthews Band eat their lunch like five John Morrisons.
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Post by Injustice45 on Jul 22, 2021 18:29:34 GMT -5
Also, it’s viewed much more positively now, and even though I enjoy it, Michael Jackson’s Invincible- at least at the time. The sales shot up post-humosly obviously, but it got a mixed reception critically and it only went single-platinum (still the kinds of sales your average artist would kill for), way below MJ’s Thriller/Bad standard, which led to his Tommy Mottola fall-out. Beat me to it. There were a couple factors that had Invincible "bomb": the lack of promotion and no concerts. Plus, there were only three singles, one of which had a music video that had Michael himself in it. Invincible, surprisingly, went double platinum a few months after its release. It's honestly a shame that there were so many factors that held back Invincible because it's a solid album in my opinion.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Jul 23, 2021 1:48:57 GMT -5
Remember when Panic! at the Disco decided to call their emo fanbase "bullshit", drop the cabaret/electronic vibe they had and go for a Sgt Pepper's pastiche that sounded completely different? Yeah, Pretty. Odd. sold horribly (though I'd say it has 2 actually decent singles on there, just not the lead one) and the argument about whether to continue with that sound or go back to their original one pretty much broke the whole band up. I actually still think that's their best album. I love A Fever You Can't Sweat Out, but I still think Pretty.Odd. is better. One of my favorite albums of the late 2000s, for sure. It was all downhill once Ryan and Jon left the band.
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Post by Hurbster on Jul 23, 2021 2:32:27 GMT -5
Pretty sure Caress of Steel did so badly that Rush just decided to go for it with 2112, against what the studio wanted.
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Post by dirtyoldman on Jul 23, 2021 7:31:35 GMT -5
Iron Maiden Virtual XI (1998) Only got to I think about 16 in the UK. I quite like that album. Me too, but metal back then was getting it's ass kicked by grunge. Looking forward to 3rd September.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 23, 2021 10:05:48 GMT -5
Something that just came to mind, both Milli Vanilli follow-up albums. By both I mean The Moment of Truth (the one the studio musicians made) and Rob & Fab (the one the models Rob & Fab made).
After the lip syncing scandal broke you could argue that one or heck both did better than you’d expect. But if you told someone how the next studio album would do when Girl You Know It’s True was on top of the US charts and before the scandal broke, many would be shocked.
Heck I remember radio stations overplaying them and then after the scandal it just stopped. Since then I’ve heard them on regular radio exactly 2 times. One this year and one within the last 5 years. I’m pretty sure both times the DJs were just being playful.
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Post by nickcave on Jul 23, 2021 10:17:25 GMT -5
Remember when Panic! at the Disco decided to call their emo fanbase "bullshit", drop the cabaret/electronic vibe they had and go for a Sgt Pepper's pastiche that sounded completely different? Yeah, Pretty. Odd. sold horribly (though I'd say it has 2 actually decent singles on there, just not the lead one) and the argument about whether to continue with that sound or go back to their original one pretty much broke the whole band up. I actually still think that's their best album. I love A Fever You Can't Sweat Out, but I still think Pretty.Odd. is better. One of my favorite albums of the late 2000s, for sure. It was all downhill once Ryan and Jon left the band. Yeah I'm not really a Panic fan at all but I quite like that album, which is probably a bad sign for their brand though if it's considered the Panic album for people who don't like Panic lol
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Post by BRV on Jul 23, 2021 11:55:10 GMT -5
Was that the her pop album that she later went back on and said was supposed to be satire? Indeed Am I the only one who recognized from the get-go that "0304" was satirical? How is it that Jewel had to actually explain that to people? Just go back and watch the video for "Intuition." It's dripping with mockery and contempt for the late-90s/early-00s commercialized, glamorized, style-over-substance pop stars of the era.
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Post by Vampiro138 on Jul 23, 2021 14:09:39 GMT -5
I will also say 'Adore' by Smashing Pumpkins was a bit of a bomb at the time, it only sold half of what 'Siamese Dream' sold and compared to Mellon Collie only sold around less than half of that album sales wise. I remember at the time people expected Billy to just make Mellon Collie part 2 and instead he goes in a different direction, Ava Adore and Perfect were played all over at the time but it wasnt enough to boost that record. Its one of those 'cult classic' records now like what 'The Elder' became for KISS. As I look over at the Adore box set, I legit loved this album when it came out and didnt get the hate it got at the time so im happy more people have warmed upto it over the years.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Jul 23, 2021 16:01:01 GMT -5
Here is an album that people hardly talk about - "Blunted on Reality" from the Fugees. Yes, those Fugees, who hit it big with "The Score." It was actually their first album and it had a different style than what was shown on "The Score." I read that it didn't sell well and Pras even said that only a handful of copies sold. I remember that "Hey Mona Lisa, can I get a date on Fridaaaay..." song but then the Score came out and pretty much erased any memory people had of the first album. Since we're talking about Wyclef... "Can-I Bus" by Canibus, leading up to his Debut album Canibus was being hailed in Hip Hop circles as the 2nd coming of Rakim for his AMAZING mixtape freestyles and guest verses. He hooked up with Wyclef Jean of Fugees fame who produced some of the tracks for this CD, but THEN that whole feud with LL Cool J happened over LL taking a line Canibus said on track they were working on as a diss and removing Canibus' verse AFTER he had agreed to change it. Canibus dropped "2nd Round Knock out" which at the time was seen as a haymaker to Cool J and even had Mike Tyson in the video hyping up the new comer. Eventually the album dropped and was viewed as a giant disappointment because of lackluster beats, and lyrics that were solid but couldn't live up to the jaw dropping shit people had previously heard from Canibus.Also there were rumors that Canibus was blackballed in the industry because of feuding with LL and that lead to the album not being promoted.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Jul 23, 2021 16:05:40 GMT -5
Babyface's Face2Face album that dropped on Sept. 11, 2001 effectively ended his stay in mainstream music, as he decided to try something different... it didn't work. I would blame...9/11 for the album not doing well, but Jay-Z's Blueprint came out the same day and did pretty damned good
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jul 23, 2021 17:14:27 GMT -5
Remember when Panic! at the Disco decided to call their emo fanbase "bullshit", drop the cabaret/electronic vibe they had and go for a Sgt Pepper's pastiche that sounded completely different? Yeah, Pretty. Odd. sold horribly (though I'd say it has 2 actually decent singles on there, just not the lead one) and the argument about whether to continue with that sound or go back to their original one pretty much broke the whole band up. 9 In The Afternoon is my favorite song by them.
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