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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 28, 2021 15:56:33 GMT -5
I mean we've seen the Goldberg push recently.
Ryback came out and killed Jobbers for months and got super over doing it.
in NXT Baron Corbin got super over just killing dudes in like 20 seconds.
Even Braun got some aura from crushing dudes.
The problem always comes down to there needs to be something more ot the character because they are going to have to lose at some point.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jul 28, 2021 21:04:58 GMT -5
I mean we've seen the Goldberg push recently. Ryback came out and killed Jobbers for months and got super over doing it. in NXT Baron Corbin got super over just killing dudes in like 20 seconds. Even Braun got some aura from crushing dudes. The problem always comes down to there needs to be something more ot the character because they are going to have to lose at some point. None of that lasted very long at all, because, as you point out, there's nowhere to go with it. If you go all the way, say by having someone destroy the entire tag division by himself, people turn on that shit real quick.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 28, 2021 21:12:31 GMT -5
I mean we've seen the Goldberg push recently. Ryback came out and killed Jobbers for months and got super over doing it. in NXT Baron Corbin got super over just killing dudes in like 20 seconds. Even Braun got some aura from crushing dudes. The problem always comes down to there needs to be something more ot the character because they are going to have to lose at some point. None of that lasted very long at all, because, as you point out, there's nowhere to go with it. If you go all the way, say by having someone destroy the entire tag division by himself, people turn on that shit real quick. Goldberg's run worked in WCW thanks to the circumstances surrounding it: WCW had such a massive roster, one that included a whole lot of guys who got booked like jobbers most of the time, so this guy absolutely demolishing them didn't feel like it was overly derailing anybody, and the spectacle wasn't just that he was winning, it was how he was beating them. Then he'd get a match against someone higher on the card and have to work a little longer, but still maintain his aura, and the lingering feeling of "SOMEONE has to destroy the nWo once and for all!" definitely gave him an extra boost. If those pieces aren't all in place, it likely loses steam a lot quicker.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 28, 2021 21:58:40 GMT -5
I mean we've seen the Goldberg push recently. Ryback came out and killed Jobbers for months and got super over doing it. in NXT Baron Corbin got super over just killing dudes in like 20 seconds. Even Braun got some aura from crushing dudes. The problem always comes down to there needs to be something more ot the character because they are going to have to lose at some point. None of that lasted very long at all, because, as you point out, there's nowhere to go with it. If you go all the way, say by having someone destroy the entire tag division by himself, people turn on that shit real quick. I mean, with Ryback, incompetence killed his aura. I say this to this day, we’d be talking about how awesome it was that he won the World title by shell shocking the Big Show if Cena didn’t get injured at the wrong time and they had to move him from the IC title feud with Miz to cost him the streak.
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Post by chrom on Jul 28, 2021 22:23:02 GMT -5
None of that lasted very long at all, because, as you point out, there's nowhere to go with it. If you go all the way, say by having someone destroy the entire tag division by himself, people turn on that shit real quick. Goldberg's run worked in WCW thanks to the circumstances surrounding it: WCW had such a massive roster, one that included a whole lot of guys who got booked like jobbers most of the time, so this guy absolutely demolishing them didn't feel like it was overly derailing anybody, and the spectacle wasn't just that he was winning, it was how he was beating them. Then he'd get a match against someone higher on the card and have to work a little longer, but still maintain his aura, and the lingering feeling of "SOMEONE has to destroy the nWo once and for all!" definitely gave him an extra boost. If those pieces aren't all in place, it likely loses steam a lot quicker. 30 of those 173 wins were against Jerry Flynn
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 28, 2021 22:46:13 GMT -5
None of that lasted very long at all, because, as you point out, there's nowhere to go with it. If you go all the way, say by having someone destroy the entire tag division by himself, people turn on that shit real quick. I mean, with Ryback, incompetence killed his aura. I say this to this day, we’d be talking about how awesome it was that he won the World title by shell shocking the Big Show if Cena didn’t get injured at the wrong time and they had to move him from the IC title feud with Miz to cost him the streak. Ryback is someone that I really wonder about, in the sense that everything we've seen from him post-WWE shows that he is a total nutcase in all the wrong ways. To the point where I wonder how much of his run being botched was actually the result of people realizing that this guy just does not have the mental aptitude of being a top WWE guy. In a way, he's really the modern day Sid, but the mid-2010s didn't have multiple wrestling companies on a downward trend desperate enough to put their title on a guy who could blow off a PPV for softball season like Sid had.
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