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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 18, 2021 15:47:30 GMT -5
Y'all lost to a baby, lmao.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 18, 2021 15:54:25 GMT -5
Y'all lost to a baby, lmao. Ol Bum Ass Baby.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 16:45:24 GMT -5
Hilarious that people are trying to get out of this wager. It was made AFTER Hangman lost a match with the stip that he wouldn’t get Omega. What was unclear lol I mean, it's not a binding contract or anything. Like, if people want to get out of it, what'll happen? Nobody's going to sue over a forum thread. EDIT: Basically my issue were people making a big deal about it on both sides. Which was why I was going to pull out. And I'm not changing my name until after All Out because that's the wager, if we're being a stickler for "clauses" or whatever. I so think some people are taking it a bit seriously. Its just a bit of fun. That said, if anyone was thinking of pulling out because they think they have a technicality? That's what sucks the fun out.
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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 18, 2021 18:27:41 GMT -5
Full Gear is in November. That should be the moment for Hangman Page. Isn't that likely to be nearer to the baby's due date than All Out is? He and his wife didn't announce the pregnancy until June so it's very likely still months before the baby arrives. If he's taking time off for that reason it would be weird to miss All Out but be available for Full Gear. Of course maybe the baby is due real soon and they just announced the pregnancy super late but we're all just speculating at this point. There could be a myriad of extra reasons for him missing All Out. Kept off for storyline reasons, resting niggling injuries, etc. Hopefully, the baby will be born next week.
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Post by Blade on Aug 19, 2021 9:54:11 GMT -5
Hangman lost a match that said he wouldn't challenge for the title in a company that has gone out of their way to state that they abide by their stipulations. I never understood people thinking they would break their stipulation for Hangman or why people would even want that. It would be awful storytelling. Because the better story was Hangman at All Out. In fact, the only good story was Hangman at All Out. If they knew Hangman wasn't going to be available, they shouldn't have booked it that way. There were (and still are) ways to get it back to that if they wanted to without just overturning the stipulation. Hangman wasn't barred from ever challenging, he just lost that particular shot. He could earn another one. Like, they've done a reasonably decent job at getting Christian to the point where he looks like a worthy challenger, but nobody buys for one second that Christian is going to beat Kenny for the belt at All Out and that is still a huge problem for AEW's world title match at one of their four yearly PPVs (nor is it the first time they've had that problem). Sure, maybe the whole thing was driven by matters out of their control, and I don't begrudge Page for taking time off for that or any other reason it seems necessary, but that does not magically turn bad writing into good writing. The match should have been Page because it was his moment. Whether they can recapture that at Full Gear or even later remains to be seen, and it still won't make what's going on now feel 1/10 as compelling or have people as excited about the match at the PPV.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 12:30:34 GMT -5
Hangman lost a match that said he wouldn't challenge for the title in a company that has gone out of their way to state that they abide by their stipulations. I never understood people thinking they would break their stipulation for Hangman or why people would even want that. It would be awful storytelling. Because the better story was Hangman at All Out. In fact, the only good story was Hangman at All Out. If they knew Hangman wasn't going to be available, they shouldn't have booked it that way. There were (and still are) ways to get it back to that if they wanted to without just overturning the stipulation. Hangman wasn't barred from ever challenging, he just lost that particular shot. He could earn another one. Like, they've done a reasonably decent job at getting Christian to the point where he looks like a worthy challenger, but nobody buys for one second that Christian is going to beat Kenny for the belt at All Out and that is still a huge problem for AEW's world title match at one of their four yearly PPVs (nor is it the first time they've had that problem). Sure, maybe the whole thing was driven by matters out of their control, and I don't begrudge Page for taking time off for that or any other reason it seems necessary, but that does not magically turn bad writing into good writing. The match should have been Page because it was his moment. Whether they can recapture that at Full Gear or even later remains to be seen, and it still won't make what's going on now feel 1/10 as compelling or have people as excited about the match at the PPV. Yeah exactly. Like I said, If you're going to blame anyone, blame the people who put the pen to paper, or blame fate for gifting Hangman a child during the hottest story of their promotion. Obviously the better story was Hangman at All Out but believing the plan was that they would go back on their stip to get Hangman in the match never made sense to me. It would be bad writing. Now we have bad writing, but at least they can claim it wasn't the original plan which at least makes sense to me. The idea that they intentionally had poor booking didn't, so that's why I voted that he wasn't getting the title shot, and didn't understand why people thought he still did. I get hoping it, but people were so confident and I just never understood where that came from.
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Post by Blade on Aug 19, 2021 12:39:46 GMT -5
Yeah exactly. Like I said, If you're going to blame anyone, blame the people who put the pen to paper, or blame fate for gifting Hangman a child during the hottest story of their promotion. Obviously the better story was Hangman at All Out but believing the plan was that they would go back on their stip to get Hangman in the match never made sense to me. It would be bad writing. Now we have bad writing, but at least they can claim it wasn't the original plan which at least makes sense to me. The idea that they intentionally had poor booking didn't, so that's why I voted that he wasn't getting the title shot, and didn't understand why people thought he still did. I get hoping it, but people were so confident and I just never understood where that came from. Probably because all wrestling logic pointed towards Hangman getting the shot. It's not like it's exactly unheard of for heels to screw a babyface out of a title shot, and with over a month to go at the time, there was something like 9 shows/14 hours of programming to explain how Hangman would get the shot despite being screwed out of it by the dastardly heels. Again, all he lost was A title match. Nothing stopped him from reearning a title match. It would have given some doubt and given them something to fill up those 14 hours of programming with.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 13:04:18 GMT -5
Yeah exactly. Like I said, If you're going to blame anyone, blame the people who put the pen to paper, or blame fate for gifting Hangman a child during the hottest story of their promotion. Obviously the better story was Hangman at All Out but believing the plan was that they would go back on their stip to get Hangman in the match never made sense to me. It would be bad writing. Now we have bad writing, but at least they can claim it wasn't the original plan which at least makes sense to me. The idea that they intentionally had poor booking didn't, so that's why I voted that he wasn't getting the title shot, and didn't understand why people thought he still did. I get hoping it, but people were so confident and I just never understood where that came from. Probably because all wrestling logic pointed towards Hangman getting the shot. It's not like it's exactly unheard of for heels to screw a babyface out of a title shot, and with over a month to go at the time, there was something like 9 shows/14 hours of programming to explain how Hangman would get the shot despite being screwed out of it by the dastardly heels. Again, all he lost was A title match. Nothing stopped him from reearning a title match. It would have given some doubt and given them something to fill up those 14 hours of programming with. Of course all wrestling logic pointed towards Hangman getting the shot but they told you he wasn't. I just didn't believe in a scenario where Hangman beat every other top face in the top 5 to get above them and get a title shot. My thought process was if Hangman was getting the title shot then the obvious conclusion to the 10-man was him winning. It made perfect sense that the Dark Order had the numbers to stop the Elite from doing bullshit and that by working together they would overcome the Elite together. When he didn't win, I assumed it was obvious that he wouldn't get the title shot because the story was laid out too perfectly for a different conclusion in my eyes. I assumed something happened to make them change their mind (initially believing it to be Bryan/Punk). I still haven't seen a good reason for Hangman to lose that 10-man but still get the title shot at All Out that I've agreed with. You could make the story work sure, but I don't see any way that Hangman losing that 10-man improves the story at all. Meltzer also reported that Hangman wasn't getting the title shot and everyone decided to think he was either working us, or being worked which I just didn't buy either. Simply put, all signs for me pointed to Hangman not getting that title shot after the 10-man. It was the only logical thing left at that point to me.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Aug 19, 2021 18:47:53 GMT -5
I will change my name, but I'm not doing it until September 6th. Because I don't want to get caught up with the semantics of what counts as thirty days and all that. I made the wager, I was wrong, and I will honor it, however.
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Post by eJm on Sept 5, 2021 23:37:50 GMT -5
Changed my name.
Heartbroken about it BECAUSE IT’S A LIE!
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 5, 2021 23:40:25 GMT -5
So after tonight even if becoming a Dad is huge I'm still convinced that plans changed so that Hangman wasn't overshadowed at All Out.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Sept 5, 2021 23:41:24 GMT -5
I think in hindsight, with all the craziness of Punk, Bryan, Cole, Soho all coming in, it was probably good that Hangman’s title win was held off for a little while. NOTHING was ever going to top the insanity. Plus when he comes back, he’s gonna get a monster pop and we all will be back in the saddle again.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Sept 5, 2021 23:42:46 GMT -5
Changed it and I am fine with that. Damn good time to be a fan
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Sept 5, 2021 23:44:13 GMT -5
I was super wrong. But still worth it for that amazing All Out.9
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 5, 2021 23:44:20 GMT -5
I genuinely don't think I've been happier to be wrong...
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Sept 5, 2021 23:45:31 GMT -5
So after tonight even if becoming a Dad is huge I'm still convinced that plans changed so that Hangman wasn't overshadowed at All Out. It could be both. Like the birth of a baby is far more important. But yeah if the match happened at All Out, even in the same show as Punk’s first match, you could have had a situation like the main event. Which was a great match and the fans did their best to stay with it and Omega and Cage went all out to put on a great match, but the fans were tired. The Hangman match deserves more than that. So the timing was pretty perfect for a little break either way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2021 23:51:50 GMT -5
LMAO amazing thread.
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Post by Starshine on Sept 6, 2021 0:03:00 GMT -5
I think everyone who lost the bet should add: 's Daddy is Hangman' to their screen names.
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Post by Chiral on Sept 6, 2021 1:20:47 GMT -5
Sequel thread "The Official "Hangman" Adam Page Full Gear Wager Thread" incoming right?!?
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Post by madness50 on Sept 6, 2021 2:04:44 GMT -5
Changed my name. Fully expecting Hangman to get his title win at Full Gear on November 13th.
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