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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 16, 2021 14:43:52 GMT -5
I don't get why Tony put out the card he put out if he was going to head to head and guaranteeing victory. I don't even like WWE and have become so frustrated with their booking that I don't even watch Raw or Smackdown anymore but fact of the matter is they played their cards much better. They brought out the big guns with Becky Lynch and Sasha Banks, two marquee main event stars, as their main advertised match. AEW answers with CM Punk against a lower mid card tag team guy who hasn't been relevant since like 2011? Like of course your going to lose with that. Punk is definitely a draw so putting him in your prime spot is fine but why not put him against a bigger name opponent? Kind of came off like he wasn't even trying. However it seemed like he was taking it very serious so I don't think that's the case. That makes it more concerning in that he actually thought the card he put out last night was going to do big ratings. Smackdown announced they were going to go head to head after Rampage's card was already set. So he didn't know he's be having this battle and I get the mindset that you shouldn't hot shot matches and angles for a one week head to head battle that won't matter in the grand scheme of things. Plus that sends the message that your card wasn't already good enough to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 14:56:51 GMT -5
Is it time to pull the food topic lever? cause I watched the Danielson-Suzuki match eating a nice hotdog in a bun. Chili dog, to be exact, plus out of curiosity ordered a sausage platter which was two types of sausages and two dips and the hotdog bun sliced and turned into garlic bread. It was enjoyable, the match and the food. Question for the thread: is a hot dog a sandwich?
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Oct 16, 2021 14:57:28 GMT -5
It doesn’t look like it was a blowout.
Yeah the WWE troll fans are gonna be annoying and I do agree with Ringmaster that it is disheartening when WWE puts out a crappy product and still win. Like I get Becky vs Sasha is a huge match, but WWE is pretty much garbage 95% of the time.
However, in the end, it’s really not that serious. But let the idiot WWE troll fans have their fun I guess.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Oct 16, 2021 14:58:27 GMT -5
Is it time to pull the food topic lever? cause I watched the Danielson-Suzuki match eating a nice hotdog in a bun. Chili dog, to be exact, plus out of curiosity ordered a sausage platter which was two types of sausages and two dips and the hotdog bun sliced and turned into garlic bread. It was enjoyable, the match and the food. Question for the thread: is a hot dog a sandwich? Maybe not a traditional sandwich. Maybe the bigger question, is it a submarine sandwich? The buns are very similar.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Oct 16, 2021 14:59:19 GMT -5
I don't get why Tony put out the card he put out if he was going to head to head and guaranteeing victory. I don't even like WWE and have become so frustrated with their booking that I don't even watch Raw or Smackdown anymore but fact of the matter is they played their cards much better. They brought out the big guns with Becky Lynch and Sasha Banks, two marquee main event stars, as their main advertised match. AEW answers with CM Punk against a lower mid card tag team guy who hasn't been relevant since like 2011? Like of course your going to lose with that. Punk is definitely a draw so putting him in your prime spot is fine but why not put him against a bigger name opponent? Kind of came off like he wasn't even trying. However it seemed like he was taking it very serious so I don't think that's the case. That makes it more concerning in that he actually thought the card he put out last night was going to do big ratings. Smackdown announced they were going to go head to head after Rampage's card was already set. So he didn't know he's be having this battle and I get the mindset that you shouldn't hot shot matches and angles for a one week head to head battle that won't matter in the grand scheme of things. Plus that sends the message that your card wasn't already good enough to begin with. I agree that you shouldn't hot shot matches but in cases like this I don't think it hurts to maybe put something a little bigger out there. Like say Punk against someone like Lance Archer. Upper midcard heel who has some cred and name value but doesn't have much going on right so Punk beating him isn't going to mean much in the grand scheme of things as far blowing through a big match to quick. However since AEW already had their card announced I guess they couldn't do much. Again I haven't been following WWE so I didn't know about them doing an extra half hour. I just thought AEW was being the aggressor with Tony guaranteeing victory which wasn't the case. However even then guaranteeing the victory was dumb on his part. If you know they got the upper hand and your going to be out gunned then don't bring attention to it. Just do your show you have announced and can't do much about and move along without making a big deal about it.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 16, 2021 15:02:27 GMT -5
Is it time to pull the food topic lever? cause I watched the Danielson-Suzuki match eating a nice hotdog in a bun. Chili dog, to be exact, plus out of curiosity ordered a sausage platter which was two types of sausages and two dips and the hotdog bun sliced and turned into garlic bread. It was enjoyable, the match and the food. Question for the thread: is a hot dog a sandwich? Yes. Bread has been made as a bread, then you put in stuff - in this case a hot dog - that wasn't involved in the creation of said bread. P.S. Anyone who says otherwise is in trouble. Mod trouble.
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Post by markymark on Oct 16, 2021 15:04:49 GMT -5
Smackdown announced they were going to go head to head after Rampage's card was already set. So he didn't know he's be having this battle and I get the mindset that you shouldn't hot shot matches and angles for a one week head to head battle that won't matter in the grand scheme of things. Plus that sends the message that your card wasn't already good enough to begin with. I agree that you shouldn't hot shot matches but in cases like this I don't think it hurts to maybe put something a little bigger out there. Like say Punk against someone like Lance Archer. Upper midcard heel who has some cred and name value but doesn't have much going on right so Punk beating him isn't going to mean much in the grand scheme of things as far blowing through a big match to quick. However since AEW already had their card announced I guess they couldn't do much. Again I haven't been following WWE so I didn't know about them doing an extra half hour. I just thought AEW was being the aggressor with Tony guaranteeing victory which wasn't the case. However even then guaranteeing the victory was dumb on his part. If you know they got the upper hand and your going to be out gunned then don't bring attention to it. Just do your show you have announced and can't do much about and move along without making a big deal about it. Punk vs Sydal was fine, I feel its more about booking Ruby vs Bunny, let alone putting it vs Lesnar/Reigns contract signing
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 15:16:49 GMT -5
You know who won this “war” last night?
The fans.
Being able to watch two banger matches at the same time.
It’s amazing for the first time in 20 years we can have two companies go head to head and is not a complete blow out like when TNA went head to head vs. Raw.
That the two companies that were alternatives to WWE the past years 20 years ROH and Impact are still around. That not just AEW has came out of nowhere but smaller companies like NWA, GCW, and MLW as well. Not mentioned NJPW Strong
That WWE is big enough to have NXT and NXT UK as alternatives to their own main brands.
Not to mention OVW, CHFH, and being able to follow any indie or major company in the world in real time and with streaming a lot it being free.
There has never been a better time to be alive and be a wrestling fan.
That being said it wasn’t much of a war as there was only a half hour over lap on cable as Smackdown wasn’t even on their normal channel and the hour before that one of the shows was on YouTube.
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Post by Kalmia on Oct 16, 2021 15:27:18 GMT -5
So those figures are averages for the entire shows and not the half an hour they ran against each other? There's nothing even to discuss until the head to head figures and demo come out.
And other than that odd tweet by TK, did anyone expect Rampage to beat Smackdown? That AEW's #2 show didn't get destroyed by WWE's #1 show is a win in its own right, IMHO. WWE loaded up that last half an hour, too.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Oct 16, 2021 15:39:17 GMT -5
SUZUKU DANIELSON BAYBEHHHHH PEOPLE PUNCHIN EACH OTHER IN THE TITS REAL HARD ITS ALL I LOVE AND NEED
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Oct 16, 2021 15:44:04 GMT -5
Don't worry.. the goalposts will move so Tony can save face and still declare "victory".
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 16, 2021 15:54:33 GMT -5
Don't worry.. the goalposts will move so Tony can save face and still declare "victory". The numbers being put out there right now for people to talk about are the goalposts being moved.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 16, 2021 15:54:47 GMT -5
I'm just gonna watch Danielson-Suzuki again, this conversation is so tedious. I watched twice,just as good the second time
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Post by fw91 on Oct 16, 2021 16:07:59 GMT -5
It doesn’t look like it was a blowout. Yeah the WWE troll fans are gonna be annoying and I do agree with Ringmaster that it is disheartening when WWE puts out a crappy product and still win. Like I get Becky vs Sasha is a huge match, but WWE is pretty much garbage 95% of the time. However, in the end, it’s really not that serious. But let the idiot WWE troll fans have their fun I guess. Who’s having fun? I’m a “WWE guy” and think there’s absolutely nothing to be proud of.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Oct 16, 2021 16:12:37 GMT -5
It doesn’t look like it was a blowout. Yeah the WWE troll fans are gonna be annoying and I do agree with Ringmaster that it is disheartening when WWE puts out a crappy product and still win. Like I get Becky vs Sasha is a huge match, but WWE is pretty much garbage 95% of the time. However, in the end, it’s really not that serious. But let the idiot WWE troll fans have their fun I guess. Who’s having fun? I’m a “WWE guy” and think there’s absolutely nothing to be proud of. this should be on tshirts
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Post by fw91 on Oct 16, 2021 16:13:38 GMT -5
Who’s having fun? I’m a “WWE guy” and think there’s absolutely nothing to be proud of. this should be on tshirts Haha
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Oct 16, 2021 16:15:37 GMT -5
Who’s having fun? I’m a “WWE guy” and think there’s absolutely nothing to be proud of. this should be on tshirts “Don’t tempt me.” - Matt Jackson (probably)
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Oct 16, 2021 16:16:53 GMT -5
It doesn’t look like it was a blowout. Yeah the WWE troll fans are gonna be annoying and I do agree with Ringmaster that it is disheartening when WWE puts out a crappy product and still win. Like I get Becky vs Sasha is a huge match, but WWE is pretty much garbage 95% of the time. However, in the end, it’s really not that serious. But let the idiot WWE troll fans have their fun I guess. Who’s having fun? I’m a “WWE guy” and think there’s absolutely nothing to be proud of. Well you’re not a TROLL WWE guy. So you’re not an asshole. Lol So you’re all good.
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Post by fw91 on Oct 16, 2021 16:21:20 GMT -5
Who’s having fun? I’m a “WWE guy” and think there’s absolutely nothing to be proud of. Well you’re not a TROLL WWE guy. So you’re not an asshole. Lol So you’re all good. Thanks, but at the same time, we can't claim one side as trolls where's there's plenty of others on the other side. If you see tribal shit somewhere else leave it there or specify. This place should be above that crap.
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Post by Chiral on Oct 16, 2021 16:21:26 GMT -5
Who’s having fun? I’m a “WWE guy” and think there’s absolutely nothing to be proud of. this should be on tshirts Every time I finish a PPV or a big WWE TV special that has a downer vibe I need to put this on or put this on like a dunce hat to wear as I sit in the corner and think about my life.
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