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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 13:19:37 GMT -5
I expect WWE to go hard after Penta and Fenix. And there is likely to be alot of push and pull with them from both sides...Andrade probably telling them about his experience and how it probably wont go to well for them then guys like Santos Escobar and Rey pullin them the other way. Pentagon in WWE would be the worst thing ever, I’d never even really even thought of it before and now my day is ruined, thank you. Glad I could help lol. Not but seriously though WWE has been after Penta since LU...surprisingly they were not as interested in Fenix though. But yea I have dreaded Penta under the WWE roof forever because what is going to happen to him immediately is they would take his mask and then it is game over for him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 14:25:56 GMT -5
Since Jericho showed up at that press conference I've been saying that he'll eventually be back with WWE. I don't know if it's now, I don't know if it's 10 years down the line but will he be back? Yeah, absolutely. All the others like Cody, Kenny, The Bucks, these dudes really feel like they're part of AEW for the long haul, it's their baby. I just don't see that with Jericho.
He's like that dude that works a job for a few years before applying somewhere else.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 20, 2021 14:26:03 GMT -5
I can't see Penta going anywhere without Fenix. And considering how awful WWE have been at booking luchadores that aren't Rey Mysterio and how much lucha libre means to the two brothers, I can't ever see them going to WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 14:38:37 GMT -5
Penta and Fenix are masked, are small, don't speak English too well, are both over 30 with Penta being in his mid-late 30's, and they run Republic of Lucha out in LA. They'd have to have legit brain damage to consider an offer from WWE, assuming one even came which I strongly doubt.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 20, 2021 20:49:53 GMT -5
I could see some of the people not being used consistently switch from full time deals to per appearance deals at the very least.
Look at someone like Nyla Rose, treated like a big deal early, has stagnated quite a bit. May see this as a chance to reinvent herself. Same could be said for people like Kip Sabian, Sonny Kiss, Joey Janela, TH2, and others.
I cannot see WWE offering the people who likely will leave a deal and I cannot see the people who WWE would want going to them without some guarantees
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 20, 2021 20:55:35 GMT -5
Penta and Fenix are masked, are small, don't speak English too well, are both over 30 with Penta being in his mid-late 30's, and they run Republic of Lucha out in LA. They'd have to have legit brain damage to consider an offer from WWE, assuming one even came which I strongly doubt. Yeah, they could stay in AEW, where they get treated like the coolest people in the history of ever, they can still work AAA, and they have numerous peers that can work their style and do it well. Or they can go to WWE where they get thrown in the Cruiserweight division, probably get broken up to little fan fare, and the end game is being incorporated into the Lucha House Party on the main roster.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Oct 20, 2021 21:34:30 GMT -5
At this point, anyone jumping from AEW to WWE is genuinely just looking for a paycheck. There's no upside to them going there other than that. You're guaranteed to be another face in the crowd. AEW has done a great job (atleast it seems this way) in making the company feel like an actual family. It's ECW vibes without all the carny shit going on. Right now, they are the alternative.
You don't have to worry about being phased out because you're too small, can't talk, all the other things that WWE has bulldozed into people's heads for however many decades now.
AEW is not on shaky foundation. Barring some sort of major financial catastrophe there's no reason to believe they won't be around for many years to come. This isn't a flash in the pan "nWo made WCW hot" situation (and that's coming from a WCW fanboy). They beat insurmountable odds by becoming essentially the number two promotion in the world within their first couple of shows.
I feel like they'd welcome back just about anyone that jumped over, but I just don't see the reason in doing so.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 20, 2021 21:50:12 GMT -5
Penta and Fenix are masked, are small, don't speak English too well, are both over 30 with Penta being in his mid-late 30's, and they run Republic of Lucha out in LA. They'd have to have legit brain damage to consider an offer from WWE, assuming one even came which I strongly doubt. Yeah, they could stay in AEW, where they get treated like the coolest people in the history of ever, they can still work AAA, and they have numerous peers that can work their style and do it well. Or they can go to WWE where they get thrown in the Cruiserweight division, probably get broken up to little fan fare, and the end game is being incorporated into the Lucha House Party on the main roster. Quite literally any Luchador who wants to go to WWE just has to look at Lucha House Party and especially Gran Metallik and realize they'd be f***ed.
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Post by Mecca on Oct 21, 2021 0:24:19 GMT -5
Yeah, they could stay in AEW, where they get treated like the coolest people in the history of ever, they can still work AAA, and they have numerous peers that can work their style and do it well. Or they can go to WWE where they get thrown in the Cruiserweight division, probably get broken up to little fan fare, and the end game is being incorporated into the Lucha House Party on the main roster. Quite literally any Luchador who wants to go to WWE just has to look at Lucha House Party and especially Gran Metallik and realize they'd be f***ed. Unless you're name is Rey Mysterio if you wear a mask stay away from WWE. I still find it baffling he went back after he fought with them over contract stuff forever.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 21, 2021 3:21:24 GMT -5
Quite literally any Luchador who wants to go to WWE just has to look at Lucha House Party and especially Gran Metallik and realize they'd be f***ed. Unless you're name is Rey Mysterio if you wear a mask stay away from WWE. I still find it baffling he went back after he fought with them over contract stuff forever. Same reason Bret started appearing on WWE TV even though he didn't really enjoy the product or certain members of management, to help his family. Bret appeared to help Nattie, Harry, Teddy and Tyson Kidd and Rey's there to get Dominik a job and over. Say what you will about the WWE, but they're more likely to do right by him than any of the mexican companies, though both will claim ownership of his gimmick and name when he leaves.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 21, 2021 4:06:38 GMT -5
Unless you're name is Rey Mysterio if you wear a mask stay away from WWE. I still find it baffling he went back after he fought with them over contract stuff forever. Same reason Bret started appearing on WWE TV even though he didn't really enjoy the product or certain members of management, to help his family. Bret appeared to help Nattie, Harry, Teddy and Tyson Kidd and Rey's there to get Dominik a job and over. Say what you will about the WWE, but they're more likely to do right by him than any of the mexican companies, though both will claim ownership of his gimmick and name when he leaves. At least Dominic has the fallback that I very much doubt they'd be able to do a damn thing about him calling himself Dominik Misterio, given the former's his real name and the latter has a long history without WWE's fingerprints on it.
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Post by Totorob101 on Oct 21, 2021 4:25:34 GMT -5
I can't imagine anyone with AEW would ever sign with WWE,there's so much elsewhere to work now which offers more for talent so if people do leave AEW it'll be for the likes of Impact,Roh,Japan etc.I can't imagine ever seeing someone like Omega or Thunder Rosa working for WWE,nor does it interest them too.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Oct 21, 2021 5:07:54 GMT -5
These are the first deals and all signed the same time period. So yeah a lot of deal running out because when they signed nobody knew what AEW success was going to be so 3 years seemed to be what everyone started with. Now that AEW is lets face it a success more than we all thought it would be at going on the 3rd year. Yes we all believed and was marking hard for the potential but from a business side realistically who saw AEW made this big of a dent in such a short period of time. I really don't see anybody jumping knowing AEW had a solid foundation and growing. They Pay well and you have more control over your creativeness and outside projects. Most of the talent would end up in NXT anyway unless you where a Main roster guy before. Which that only leaves you with Cody who isn't going anywhere and Jericho.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Oct 21, 2021 5:15:53 GMT -5
With a lot of guys, unless AEW outright wants to cut them, I don't see them leaving. For instance, Joey Janela does f*** all on AEW TV these days, but he still shows up on Dark here or there and can be regularly featured in GCW. If AEW wants to start cutting guys, I think you look to some of the folks that used to get AEW TV time that don't anymore as those that might be likely to go. I don't want to name names out of respect, but it's pretty apparent who might be on the outs. Yeah Janela is never signing with WWE unless he gets the greatest deal ever that lets him work GCW. Same as Thunder Rosa, she'll never sign with WWE because of Mission Pro and her MMA career. edit: I know that Janela doesn't own/book GCW but it's hard to think of GCW without him there.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 21, 2021 5:26:38 GMT -5
With a lot of guys, unless AEW outright wants to cut them, I don't see them leaving. For instance, Joey Janela does f*** all on AEW TV these days, but he still shows up on Dark here or there and can be regularly featured in GCW. If AEW wants to start cutting guys, I think you look to some of the folks that used to get AEW TV time that don't anymore as those that might be likely to go. I don't want to name names out of respect, but it's pretty apparent who might be on the outs. Yeah Janela is never signing with WWE unless he gets the greatest deal ever that lets him work GCW. Same as Thunder Rosa, she'll never sign with WWE because of Mission Pro and her MMA career. edit: I know that Janela doesn't own/book GCW but it's hard to think of GCW without him there. The WWE was interested in Janela before AEW came around but not as a wrestler... they wanted to bring him in as a producer and then move him to the creative team because of his work with GCW, Beyond, and CZW as well as the video packages he directed. I love Joey's story but I've always said that his biggest impact in wrestling will be more behind the scene than in front of camera because he is creative (and Joey tends to be a but too emotional at times and loves to party so he may be seen as unreliable as a performer)
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Post by Feyrhausen on Oct 21, 2021 6:01:27 GMT -5
I assume many will ride it out to cause a bidding war between the two major companies Hopefully nobody overplays that position more than they're prepared to. It still blows my mind (in a good way) that AEW can offer comparable salaries despite having 25-30% of the travel and work schedule. So whats the deal with that though? I know AEW is running in the red like any startup but is this a case of AEW "sharing the wealth" while in WWE most of the money goes to the top?
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 21, 2021 9:50:21 GMT -5
Hopefully nobody overplays that position more than they're prepared to. It still blows my mind (in a good way) that AEW can offer comparable salaries despite having 25-30% of the travel and work schedule. So whats the deal with that though? I know AEW is running in the red like any startup but is this a case of AEW "sharing the wealth" while in WWE most of the money goes to the top? I’d assume AEW has considerably less overhead than WWE does, as the WWE’s structure and amount of employees is fairly high as they are more of a global brand at this point. I think AEW is picking and choosing who to give the big money guaranteed deals to. A lot of the workers especially on Dark are on per appearance deals.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 21, 2021 11:25:31 GMT -5
Hopefully nobody overplays that position more than they're prepared to. It still blows my mind (in a good way) that AEW can offer comparable salaries despite having 25-30% of the travel and work schedule. So whats the deal with that though? I know AEW is running in the red like any startup but is this a case of AEW "sharing the wealth" while in WWE most of the money goes to the top? Probably also that AEW on-screen talent doubles in a lot of production positions, unlike WWE.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 22, 2021 16:24:52 GMT -5
Penta and Fenix are masked, are small, don't speak English too well, are both over 30 with Penta being in his mid-late 30's, and they run Republic of Lucha out in LA. They'd have to have legit brain damage to consider an offer from WWE, assuming one even came which I strongly doubt. Yeah, they could stay in AEW, where they get treated like the coolest people in the history of ever, they can still work AAA, and they have numerous peers that can work their style and do it well. Or they can go to WWE where they get thrown in the Cruiserweight division, probably get broken up to little fan fare, and the end game is being incorporated into the Lucha House Party on the main roster. Reasons 1 to 100 why Penta and Fenix ain't leaving AEW for WWE:
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Post by markymark on Nov 12, 2021 19:36:28 GMT -5
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