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Post by Mid-Carder on Mar 7, 2022 12:07:45 GMT -5
Thats a sign when a talent is frustrated by bad booking, I also noticed there was a lack of fire in Rosa even though she tried vs Britt but there was still something missing
It's possible but she may also have been selling the match as a big, important moment
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Post by chrom on Mar 7, 2022 12:08:56 GMT -5
That's the look of a person who'd rather be anywhere else right now.
You can tell by her entire body language she doesn't want to be there
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Mar 7, 2022 12:15:36 GMT -5
I think the division needs a face champ on the main title. Jade is fine where she's at, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2022 12:18:59 GMT -5
A homie of mine who's a huge AEW defender just said that even if Rosa wins in SA he's not going to give as much a shit since she didn't win last night. I always see him bigging up AEW so for him to even say this is interesting to me.
Britt Baker really has some wild hold over this company and that belt. It's very "Alexa Bliss's Reign of Terror"-esque.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 7, 2022 12:50:07 GMT -5
The Hayter stuff is getting rather frustrating. Like I get the “slow burn” idea. But they’re also doing that with MJF and Wardlow. But the latter is:
-Better written.
-Paced better.
-There is more in story reason for Wardlow to stay by MJF’s side for so long.
-Etc.
Really at this point Hayter gains nothing by being Britt’a lackey and it feels like that story is spinning it’s wheels as well. They need to do the turn soon imo.
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Post by petef3 on Mar 7, 2022 13:46:21 GMT -5
It seems like the Hayter/Britt thing hasn't been slowed down so much as dropped entirely. I guess they figured they couldn't run the exact same storyline simultaneously.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2022 13:49:11 GMT -5
Khan at the scrum also said he had no regrets about booking tonight, or the decisions he made. He said "Usually, I have a regret, usually I look back and hate something, or wish something went different. I thought tonight was perfect" So, as angry as fans seem to be about the decision to delay Rosa's win for two weeks, I just don't think the negative outweighed the positive for Khan in his own eyes. He wants Rosa to win that strap, in her hometown, on the one year Anniversary where she and Britt set monster ratings. You can say it shouldn't have been done that way, you can say it was a mistake, you can say it was a awful match... in the end, I don't know... what do you want for Thunder Rosa? A moment where her crowning moment is like the 7th best thing that night? Or do you want to see her win it in the main event of a show, in her hometown, potentially in the first ever AEW Women's Steel Cage match ever? Like... I get the negativity, I get Britt's title reign has overstayed it's welcome... but idk how you're a booker and you see that opportunity, and pass it up. If Khan for some outlandish reason does, I am gonna have a HUGE problem lmfao, but I think he's willing to take apathy for the moment he sees in front of him, and I gotta tell ya, that's pretty commendable, because unlike some promoters who don't give a shit about what fans think, Khan clearly does, for the better or for the detriment, and he really is telling fans to trust him here on this. I hope he can deliver, and make this a huge moment. It all starts Wednesday. I don't mean any disrespect, but this is a thread specifically designed to air grievances about the treatment of the women's division. The purpose of the thread is that people are frustrated and it seems counter-productive to try to change people's minds about a PPV result that has left a lot of us very frustrated. Again, no disrespect. Yeah, Tony may be happy with it, but clearly a lot of us aren't. Is it a booking decision that's going to cause everyone to leave en masse? Probably not. Is it a booking decision that's making do the Krusty gif of "what the hell was that?" Yes.
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Post by markymark on Mar 7, 2022 13:50:58 GMT -5
The Hayter stuff is getting rather frustrating. Like I get the “slow burn” idea. But they’re also doing that with MJF and Wardlow. But the latter is: -Better written. -Paced better. -There is more in story reason for Wardlow to stay by MJF’s side for so long. -Etc. Really at this point Hayter gains nothing by being Britt’a lackey and it feels like that story is spinning it’s wheels as well. They need to do the turn soon imo.
Also Jericho helped get over Wardlow with the whole Powerbomb symphony, Jamie would need something intriguing that somehow gets her over.
Mercedez is another victim of bad booking, having her turn face after weeks of being heel...this is the kind of stuff that damaged Brandi Rhodes as a tv character.
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Post by raymondo316 on Mar 7, 2022 13:51:56 GMT -5
I think a lot of the problem is Tony seems obsessed with long title reigns, so we end up with so much filler. There really was no need for Shida & Britt to have such long reigns.....sometimes shorter is better.
Everyone has known since Britt won the title that Rosa would be the next champion, yet they decided to drag this out for over 9 months, and we still haven't got to the point yet.
I'm not asking for titles to be swapping hands every month, but some shorter reigns would really freshen things up and make things less predictable.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 7, 2022 14:12:05 GMT -5
How many times does Rebel get to get up on the apron, before the referee can eject her? She did it like 5 times last night. It’s not like it’s quick and clever interference. It is so blatant and so drawn out and so constant, the refs look like morons for ALWAYS falling for it.
It just makes everyone look stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2022 14:12:59 GMT -5
"Yikes" was my exact reaction when I saw that Britt retained.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 7, 2022 14:20:14 GMT -5
I think my issue is that they brought her in, debuted her strong and she's done a lot of nothing since then. It's essentially the problem she had in Vince land. In Vince land she wasn't even debuted strong if youre talking main roster, it was literally "Here she is, here are Liv and Sarah, oh we're a group now" and they beat up Natalya, I believe Ruby has still only lost like three matches in her AEW career, I do agree she needs a feud though, she's being kept strong with wins for a reason though. Not caring would have her not there period. Ruby has a feud set up with Nyla. The issue that still plagues the division is that if you’re not Britt or Jade, you end up having to take these extended breaks off TV (sometimes for many weeks or several months). So the feud gets cold. I think that is part of what hurt Rosa vs. Martinez. And they did not do nearly enough compelling stuff with Rosa on TV in general before her and Britt started interacting again. In Ruby’s case, she had a big ish match, or a feud set up. But then she disappears off TV for so long that everything cools off. Then when it comes back, people are like “oh, that was a thing wasn’t it?”
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Post by Mid-Carder on Mar 7, 2022 14:40:27 GMT -5
If the plan is Rosa winning in two weeks, they may have been best just not having the women's world title match at Revolution, so Rosa doesn't have to lose yet again. That or Britt beats somebody else.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 7, 2022 14:45:09 GMT -5
I think a lot of the problem is Tony seems obsessed with long title reigns, so we end up with so much filler. There really was no need for Shida & Britt to have such long reigns.....sometimes shorter is better. Everyone has known since Britt won the title that Rosa would be the next champion, yet they decided to drag this out for over 9 months, and we still haven't got to the point yet. I'm not asking for titles to be swapping hands every month, but some shorter reigns would really freshen things up and make things less predictable. Or have her drop the title for month or so, win it back and then drop it for good. Would have hurt if Statlander won the title for a month, and dropped it back to Britt? No. It breaks up this crap.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 7, 2022 15:05:56 GMT -5
The Hayter stuff is getting rather frustrating. Like I get the “slow burn” idea. But they’re also doing that with MJF and Wardlow. But the latter is: -Better written. -Paced better. -There is more in story reason for Wardlow to stay by MJF’s side for so long. -Etc. Really at this point Hayter gains nothing by being Britt’a lackey and it feels like that story is spinning it’s wheels as well. They need to do the turn soon imo. The whole Britt title reign seemed to try and take from both the Kenny Title Reign and MJF-Wardlow The issue is the much worse writing, it just seems to be ticking box for a "heel run" ands that she is no Kenny or MJF.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 7, 2022 15:08:07 GMT -5
The Hayter stuff is getting rather frustrating. Like I get the “slow burn” idea. But they’re also doing that with MJF and Wardlow. But the latter is: -Better written. -Paced better. -There is more in story reason for Wardlow to stay by MJF’s side for so long. -Etc. Really at this point Hayter gains nothing by being Britt’a lackey and it feels like that story is spinning it’s wheels as well. They need to do the turn soon imo. The whole Britt title reign seemed to try and take from both the Kenny Title Reign and MJF-Wardlow The issue is the much worse writing, it just seems to be ticking box for a "heel run" ands that she is no Kenny or MJF. Yeah, Kenny made it work because even with the cheating, Kenny is one of the best wrestlers in the world so his matches were always a treat to watch even when the conclusion was foregone.
Britt Baker is serviceable in the ring, but she's no Kenny Omega. Her ring work has regressed as champion if anything.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 7, 2022 15:13:16 GMT -5
The whole Britt title reign seemed to try and take from both the Kenny Title Reign and MJF-Wardlow The issue is the much worse writing, it just seems to be ticking box for a "heel run" ands that she is no Kenny or MJF. Yeah, Kenny made it work because even with the cheating, Kenny is one of the best wrestlers in the world so his matches were always a treat to watch even when the conclusion was foregone.
Britt Baker is serviceable in the ring, but she's no Kenny Omega. Her ring work has regressed as champion if anything.
Also the Britt stuff would be like if they did the Kenny/Hangman stuff, then just forgot about the Young Bucks. Like where was Mercedes Martinez? She’s been a big part of this story since it heated up again, and they spent weeks on her falling out with Britt, turning face, and then helping Rosa. Where was she last night? She jus was not there with zero explanation? And that’s not the first time that has happens with babyfaces’s when they face Britt. It just shows a fundamental lack of care for basic details when it comes to the booking.
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Post by ghost on Mar 7, 2022 15:26:14 GMT -5
If Rosa is winning the title in 2 weeks then why even have the match last night? Very WWE-esque with the 50/50 booking with Rosa getting the pin in the tag match and Britt winning the singles match. If anything, they could have had the tag match at the PPV instead of on Dynamite, and then finally had the singles match with Rosa winning in her hometown.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 7, 2022 15:31:52 GMT -5
All you really need to sell the rematch is "Because of all the blatant cheating last night, we feel Rosa's earned a rematch" without having a Leyla Hirsch-sized hoop to jump through.
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Post by chrom on Mar 7, 2022 15:36:47 GMT -5
If Rosa is winning the title in 2 weeks then why even have the match last night? Very WWE-esque with the 50/50 booking with Rosa getting the pin in the tag match and Britt winning the singles match. If anything, they could have had the tag match at the PPV instead of on Dynamite, and then finally had the singles match with Rosa winning in her hometown. Ratings ploy, TNA did it all the time. Make the PPV match utterly pointless to try and get people to tune in on tv
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