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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 11:09:21 GMT -5
The finish plays into what's coming though, like to me that finish was meant to have fans calling for Britt's head and her cronies too. Rosa had the match won, twice, and the crowd was audibly into the end because of it. I think if you set this up as a Cage Match or a Texas Deathmatch as another suggested this week, you're gonna actively give the crowd a lot to want for St. Patrick's Day Slam But it didn't--the heat, such as it was, was all on the promotion and the incompetent referee. And Rosa doesn't really look screwed over--she looks like an idiot because she came down to the ring alone while Baker came out with 2 people who you know are going to interfere. It's like 1997 DX all over again--both that act and Baker constantly rely on their babyface opponents being idiots. And why the rigamarole of a Rosa-Hirsch #1 contenders match? The match may be a banger, but we already know the result. This is what I was getting at with an authority figure being useful in this slot, to give Baker real, actual consequences for cheating. The heat was plenty on Baker and her cronies too, "All the heat" being on the promotion is a stretch. The Britt retaining post got about 1300 likes on it, so some people clearly weren't irritated, is what it is, the definition of how much heat something gets can always be stretched, this can go for many promotions, though. Rosa wasn't dumb she was simply fed up and killed them both, Baker got a cheap shot in, simple as that Rosa/Hirsch is a good way to give Rosa another shot. She falls to 2, Hirsch rises to one, let them settle it. I dont think it hurts at all We never really agree on this stuff, is what it is, just how I see it I guess.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 11:11:17 GMT -5
3 people debuted at All Out, Adam Cole, Bryan Danielson and Ruby Soho. There have been 2 ppvs since then, Cole and Bryan have been on both while Ruby has been on none. She is currently slumming it on Dark and honestly that is just deflating. Well, frankly, Soho hasn't brought it in her in-ring performances to earn much more than what she's got. That Statlander-Hirsch match blew away just about anything Ruby has been involved in since her debut. Ruby's been absolutely fine and I feel like you are needlessly tough on her for like zero reason. And the crowds can't get enough of her.
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Post by clifford on Mar 7, 2022 11:11:23 GMT -5
I've said my piece with this. Many times. The division is there. The pieces are there. Someone just needs to put it together. Why it's proving to be so hard, I do not know.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 7, 2022 11:12:21 GMT -5
The division right now as a whole is good.
The main title scene just sucks
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Post by petef3 on Mar 7, 2022 11:12:55 GMT -5
Rosa was dumb for not even considering having any kind of contingency plan to deal with Hayter and Rebel aside from, "I'm going to get mad and kill them after they and the ref have cost me the match twice." We've seen what Rebel and Hayter are going to do--why not at least try to kill them *before* they get a chance to do anything?
Again, actual tangible consequences for Baker would be for Rosa not to fall in the rankings at all. "Nope, she had you beaten twice, you cheated, Rosa is still the #1 contender."
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Post by petef3 on Mar 7, 2022 11:14:04 GMT -5
Well, frankly, Soho hasn't brought it in her in-ring performances to earn much more than what she's got. That Statlander-Hirsch match blew away just about anything Ruby has been involved in since her debut. Ruby's been absolutely fine and I feel like you are needlessly tough on her for like zero reason. And the crowds can't get enough of her. I'm tough on her because I haven't been impressed by her matches or her performances. If you disagree, fine, but I'm not being "needlessly" tough, just calling it as I see it. And is *Ruby* over, or is the entrance over? What kind of pop would Ruby get if she ran out to the ring without her music?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 11:15:20 GMT -5
The division right now as a whole is good. The title scene just sucks This, and this is why I dont care if Rosa wins two weeks later, because then you have Rosa as Champion Jade as Champion Baker vs Hayter Deeb vs Shida Hirsch vs Statlander/Velvet Paige VanZant and whatever she's gonna do And then there are a lot of girls you can put into positions to get the belt or put into further feuds, Baker just needs to desperately get the f*** out of the main scene, for awhile. We also will be starting the Women's Owen Cup Tourney in what April? That's also a thing to look at.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 11:16:30 GMT -5
Ruby's been absolutely fine and I feel like you are needlessly tough on her for like zero reason. And the crowds can't get enough of her. I'm tough on her because I haven't been impressed by her matches or her performances. If you disagree, fine, but I'm not being "needlessly" tough, just calling it as I see it. And is *Ruby* over, or is the entrance over? What kind of pop would Ruby get if she ran out to the ring without her music? I feel like being needlessly tough is implying she's on DARK because "She's not good enough", I think that's harsh, opinion or not. Ruby constantly gets pops and chants during her matches, many people have even said on recent DARKs, she's the ones getting the pops of the show.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 7, 2022 11:17:51 GMT -5
Ruby's been absolutely fine and I feel like you are needlessly tough on her for like zero reason. And the crowds can't get enough of her. I'm tough on her because I haven't been impressed by her matches or her performances. If you disagree, fine, but I'm not being "needlessly" tough, just calling it as I see it. And is *Ruby* over, or is the entrance over? What kind of pop would Ruby get if she ran out to the ring without her music? Ruby, even in the WWE was over with the crowds. That's why people were always dumbfounded that they made her a heel and never used her. As for her in-ring stuff, she's had more good matches than bad.
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Post by petef3 on Mar 7, 2022 11:18:15 GMT -5
I'm tough on her because I haven't been impressed by her matches or her performances. If you disagree, fine, but I'm not being "needlessly" tough, just calling it as I see it. And is *Ruby* over, or is the entrance over? What kind of pop would Ruby get if she ran out to the ring without her music? I feel like being needlessly tough is implying she's on DARK because "She's not good enough", I think that's harsh, opinion or not. Ruby constantly gets pops and chants during her matches, many people have even said on recent DARKs, she's the ones getting the pops of the show. Well then, you tell me why she's on Dark and losing every big singles match she's involved in, while Statlander, Hirsch, and Conti are getting PPV/Buy In time.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 7, 2022 11:20:55 GMT -5
I feel like being needlessly tough is implying she's on DARK because "She's not good enough", I think that's harsh, opinion or not. Ruby constantly gets pops and chants during her matches, many people have even said on recent DARKs, she's the ones getting the pops of the show. Well then, you tell me why she's on Dark and losing every big singles match she's involved in, while Statlander, Hirsch, and Conti are getting PPV/Buy In time. Her being on Dark is not an indicator she's not good enough for the main shows or anything. She was in the TBS tournament not too long ago in fact. Lot of people hang out on Dark when they don't have things going for them on the main shows. Just how Tony prefers to do things. I'm sure she'll get her spotlight in the near future here.
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Post by petef3 on Mar 7, 2022 11:22:55 GMT -5
Well then, you tell me why she's on Dark and losing every big singles match she's involved in, while Statlander, Hirsch, and Conti are getting PPV/Buy In time. Her being on Dark is not an indicator she's not good enough for the main shows or anything. She was in the TBS tournament not too long ago in fact. Lot of people hang out on Dark when they don't have things going for them on the main shows. Just how Tony prefers to do things. I'm sure she'll get her spotlight in the near future here. And that's fine in and of itself, but "being in the TBS title tournament three months ago" is like the bare minimum baseline for someone who was brought in with the hype that Soho got. It sure seems to me like they brought her in with bigger intentions than what she's accomplished so far, which is being the women's version of Eddie Kingston, always losing the big one.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 7, 2022 11:23:21 GMT -5
Well then, you tell me why she's on Dark and losing every big singles match she's involved in, while Statlander, Hirsch, and Conti are getting PPV/Buy In time. Her being on Dark is not an indicator she's not good enough for the main shows or anything. She was in the TBS tournament not too long ago in fact. Lot of people hang out on Dark when they don't have things going for them on the main shows. Just how Tony prefers to do things. I'm sure she'll get her spotlight in the near future here. That's just it though, she should have something going on one of the main shows.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 7, 2022 11:24:07 GMT -5
Her being on Dark is not an indicator she's not good enough for the main shows or anything. She was in the TBS tournament not too long ago in fact. Lot of people hang out on Dark when they don't have things going for them on the main shows. Just how Tony prefers to do things. I'm sure she'll get her spotlight in the near future here. And that's fine in and of itself, but "being in the TBS title tournament three months ago" is like the bare minimum baseline for someone who was brought in with the hype that Soho got. It sure seems to me like they brought her in with bigger intentions than what she's accomplished so far, which is being the women's version of Eddie Kingston, always losing the big one. It really is stunning how fast the momentum from her debut came to a screeching halt.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 7, 2022 11:26:21 GMT -5
The division right now as a whole is good. The title scene just sucks This, and this is why I dont care if Rosa wins two weeks later, because then you have Rosa as Champion Jade as Champion Baker vs Hayter Deeb vs Shida Hirsch vs Statlander/Velvet Paige VanZant and whatever she's gonna do And then there are a lot of girls you can put into positions to get the belt or put into further feuds, Baker just needs to desperately get the f*** out of the main scene, for awhile. We also will be starting the Women's Owen Cup Tourney in what April? That's also a thing to look at. Yeh honestly between Shida vs Deeb ,Jades title run and few minors feuds around like Stalander vs Layla. I just feel like they need a main championship run that feels exciting.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 7, 2022 11:28:26 GMT -5
Her being on Dark is not an indicator she's not good enough for the main shows or anything. She was in the TBS tournament not too long ago in fact. Lot of people hang out on Dark when they don't have things going for them on the main shows. Just how Tony prefers to do things. I'm sure she'll get her spotlight in the near future here. That's just it though, she should have something going on one of the main shows. Oh, agreed. I'm just saying she is, in fact, over and her in-ring skills are above many in the division. Honestly thought she should have won the TBS title over Jade. Jade has gotten better over time but I'd rather the title go to someone who is a bit more of a workhorse.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 7, 2022 11:29:39 GMT -5
That's just it though, she should have something going on one of the main shows. Oh, agreed. I'm just saying she is, in fact, over and her in-ring skills are above many in the division. Honestly thought she should have won the TBS title over Jade. Jade has gotten better over time but I'd rather the title go to someone who is a bit more of a workhorse. I think my issue is that they brought her in, debuted her strong and she's done a lot of nothing since then. It's essentially the problem she had in Vince land.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 11:34:01 GMT -5
Oh, agreed. I'm just saying she is, in fact, over and her in-ring skills are above many in the division. Honestly thought she should have won the TBS title over Jade. Jade has gotten better over time but I'd rather the title go to someone who is a bit more of a workhorse. I think my issue is that they brought her in, debuted her strong and she's done a lot of nothing since then. It's essentially the problem she had in Vince land. In Vince land she wasn't even debuted strong if youre talking main roster, it was literally "Here she is, here are Liv and Sarah, oh we're a group now" and they beat up Natalya, I believe Ruby has still only lost like three matches in her AEW career, I do agree she needs a feud though, she's being kept strong with wins for a reason though. Not caring would have her not there period.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Mar 7, 2022 11:43:10 GMT -5
I could probably live with an extended Britt Heel Reign of Terror if she didn't put down the rest of the division in every promo.
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Post by holyshida on Mar 7, 2022 11:47:50 GMT -5
Thats a sign when a talent is frustrated by bad booking, I also noticed there was a lack of fire in Rosa even though she tried vs Britt but there was still something missing
idk I watch her blog consistently and she seemed very excited about the match on that and was tearing up, I don't know if the original plan was for her to win the title last night and that somehow changed. That was bad booking last night. Here's a question? There's ablut 20 Women on the roster, who outside Jade and Britt would you say has been booked to their maximum potential because I'm struggling here
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