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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 22, 2021 23:13:21 GMT -5
Chavo Guerrero says something. Whether people care or not is up to debate. He could kept that to himself
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Nov 22, 2021 23:13:51 GMT -5
Chavo Guerrero says something. Whether people care or not is up to debate. Lmfao Chavo go to bed
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 22, 2021 23:17:37 GMT -5
Chavo Guerrero says something. Whether people care or not is up to debate. Everyone on Twitter by morning: "I have also dunked on Chavo."
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Nov 22, 2021 23:21:20 GMT -5
Chavo is a f***ing moron.
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Post by Timeless Hayterade on Nov 22, 2021 23:22:04 GMT -5
Do not pass go. Do not collect 200 dollars. Also, yes. Chavo's statement is f***ing stupid. Didn't need any input on his part.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Nov 22, 2021 23:25:14 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 22, 2021 23:29:04 GMT -5
Chavo Guerrero says something. Whether people care or not is up to debate. This has nothing to do with toughness. The guy blindsided Seth with a double leg takedown on a slick ramp. Seth got him in a choke until he was subdued. That's absolutely the right thing to do. So basically... f*** off with that shit Chavo. So sick of this He-Man bullshit in wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 23:30:35 GMT -5
Shut the f*** up, Chavo.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 22, 2021 23:34:56 GMT -5
Chavo Guerrero says something. Whether people care or not is up to debate. This has nothing to do with toughness. The guy blindsided Seth with a double leg takedown on a slick ramp. Seth got him in a choke until he was subdued. That's absolutely the right thing to do. So basically... f*** off with that shit Chavo. So sick of this He-Man bullshit in wrestling. The thing is this is a really dumb take Like you do realize you have a bunch of people Seth age in AEW and the indies and you're casting a wide net. Either it is a very dumb Seth or WWE joke or you creating enemies for no reason because no matter where you are, if a fan attacks a wrestler and security helps, you going to have the nerve to say you should been tougher
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Post by gnr123 on Nov 22, 2021 23:35:07 GMT -5
Man, f*** Chavo. What an unbelievably piece of shit statement by a piece of shit person.
If the company he's employed with don't let him go after that I'd be surprised. There's always an incident that a fan may have a weapon and use it on a wrestler, just like how that f***wad killed Dimebag Darrell years ago. I guess Dimebag wasn't "tougher like the old musicians," according to Chavo. What an asshole.
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Post by mistery on Nov 22, 2021 23:35:20 GMT -5
Isn't Chavo still employed by AEW? Because all of the reports going around say he's just on hiatus. Because if so, that kinda tweet should lead to them not using him anymore because oof.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 22, 2021 23:40:25 GMT -5
Rollins may be easily gotten to online sometimes, but I have no trouble buying him as a tough guy. Chavo can blow it out his arse.
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 22, 2021 23:41:42 GMT -5
I totally get the urge to think this guy should've gotten his ass kicked. I do. But here's my thought when this happens. Do whatever it takes to subdue the guy and protect the performer. But once you do, there's no need for anything else. 99.99% of folks know this is incredibly stupid. It's always very possible that someone jumping the rail either has a mental illness or is mentally disabled. We don't need to kick the shit out of them if it can be avoided. And it's not like doing that will disincentivize this in the future. Anyone who's rational will know this is a bad idea. Beating someone up won't affect those who already want to do this. Just focus on protecting the performer and getting the attacker to the proper authorities. That's the best strategy for dealing with it in the moment. However, there is a larger atmospheric issue at work. When the headlines are screaming everything from perceived injustice to social and economic hardship, it is important for the one person, for whom all of WWE's writing team is giving their full creative investment, to make decisions about his product that do more to keep fans happy enough that their response to long-term misery booking isn't to snap and attack the talent. It's for reasons like this that I didn't have an issue with, say, beach balls during live events. Distracting? Yes, but it was also a safety valve for any frustrations that fans were having with the show itself. It's also why you had clown-type babyface characters like Hillbilly Jim, Junkyard Dog, Brodus Clay, Adam Rose or even a babyface Sami Zayn to stave off the negative vibes. Win or lose, they got fans' minds off the fact that a heel had gotten over on the previous match. More importantly, however, it's why your face-to-heel win ratio was best worked out to favour the faces, at least on a few of the big matches. If a heel has to go over in the main event, you have at least one very exciting match just beforehand where the face or faces win with a big and memorable finish. Booking each card impacts the crowd's energy for the next card; booking long-term in a way that satisfies the crowd, if not sating them entirely, is how you build positive energy and how you avoid things getting so heated or negative that frustration spills over into anger.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 23:41:57 GMT -5
I assume the policy is for wrestlers to still not touch the fans cause Seth could have got in free shots when they was carrying him out Getting taken out in one shot, and then hitting the guy while twenty guys are holding him down, would make seth look much tougher, lol it's already bad enough that twenty guys from the back are holding him on the ground and seth is standing there doing his "come on bro!" thing. This just makes everyone seth has ever beaten look bad. A random fan jumps out of the stands and takes out multiple time main event world champion in one shot, and it takes twenty guys from the back to get rid of the guy, how weak is everyone that seth has ever beaten? The fan should have a title shot next week if it's that easy to take out one of the top guys and it's that hard to control the guy to get rid of him. it should be fan vs brock for the title after that. It just exposes the show when something "real" happens like this, what do they need wrestling training for if some random guy can jump out of the stands and take out their top guy in one move. It's like if some guy attacks the ufc champion and takes him out in one move, well why isn't that guy the champion instead? I saw mention of bret and sonya earlier. bret is 70 years old, concussion and stroke victim there to give a speech, he's not a fair fight in the slightest, and sonya was at her house in the middle of the night ready to go to sleep being sneak attacked, not a fair fight. This was a top guy in the ring at the arena ready to go, looking at the guy as he was coming. different thing. And dimebag was there to play music on his guitar, you would expect the fan to take a guitar and out play him on the guitar in that situation, this is wrestling, so he did a wrestling move.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 22, 2021 23:42:22 GMT -5
Isn't Chavo still employed by AEW? Because all of the reports going around say he's just on hiatus. Because if so, that kinda tweet should lead to them not using him anymore because oof. I have no clue because they wrote him off with Andrade I'd keep him written off if he's gonna choose to be this much of a dumbass.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 22, 2021 23:48:41 GMT -5
I totally get the urge to think this guy should've gotten his ass kicked. I do. But here's my thought when this happens. Do whatever it takes to subdue the guy and protect the performer. But once you do, there's no need for anything else. 99.99% of folks know this is incredibly stupid. It's always very possible that someone jumping the rail either has a mental illness or is mentally disabled. We don't need to kick the shit out of them if it can be avoided. And it's not like doing that will disincentivize this in the future. Anyone who's rational will know this is a bad idea. Beating someone up won't affect those who already want to do this. Just focus on protecting the performer and getting the attacker to the proper authorities. That's the best strategy for dealing with it in the moment. However, there is a larger atmospheric issue at work. When the headlines are screaming everything from perceived injustice to social and economic hardship, it is important for the one person, for whom all of WWE's writing team is giving their full creative investment, to make decisions about his product that do more to keep fans happy enough that their response to long-term misery booking isn't to snap and attack the talent. It's for reasons like this that I didn't have an issue with, say, beach balls during live events. Distracting? Yes, but it was also a safety valve for any frustrations that fans were having with the show itself. It's also why you had clown-type babyface characters like Hillbilly Jim, Junkyard Dog, Brodus Clay, Adam Rose or even a babyface Sami Zayn to stave off the negative vibes. Win or lose, they got fans' minds off the fact that a heel had gotten over on the previous match. More importantly, however, it's why your face-to-heel win ratio was best worked out to favour the faces, at least on a few of the big matches. If a heel has to go over in the main event, you have at least one very exciting match just beforehand where the face or faces win with a big and memorable finish. Booking each card impacts the crowd's energy for the next card; booking long-term in a way that satisfies the crowd, if not sating them entirely, is how you build positive energy and how you avoid things getting so heated or negative that frustration spills over into anger. Ehh, you should never feel compelled to touch a wrestler under any circumstance F*** being happy, unhappy, whatever. Boo, cheer, or don't go to the show but I think that is an excuse to say negative feelings about a TV show gives you a compulsion to attack someone.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 22, 2021 23:50:44 GMT -5
I assume the policy is for wrestlers to still not touch the fans cause Seth could have got in free shots when they was carrying him out Getting taken out in one shot, and then hitting the guy while twenty guys are holding him down, would make seth look much tougher, lol it's already bad enough that twenty guys from the back are holding him on the ground and seth is standing there doing his "come on bro!" thing. This just makes everyone seth has ever beaten look bad. A random fan jumps out of the stands and takes out multiple time main event world champion in one shot, and it takes twenty guys from the back to get rid of the guy, how weak is everyone that seth has ever beaten? The fan should have a title shot next week if it's that easy to take out one of the top guys and it's that hard to control the guy to get rid of him. it should be fan vs brock for the title after that.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 22, 2021 23:53:02 GMT -5
I totally get the urge to think this guy should've gotten his ass kicked. I do. But here's my thought when this happens. Do whatever it takes to subdue the guy and protect the performer. But once you do, there's no need for anything else. 99.99% of folks know this is incredibly stupid. It's always very possible that someone jumping the rail either has a mental illness or is mentally disabled. We don't need to kick the shit out of them if it can be avoided. And it's not like doing that will disincentivize this in the future. Anyone who's rational will know this is a bad idea. Beating someone up won't affect those who already want to do this. Just focus on protecting the performer and getting the attacker to the proper authorities. That's the best strategy for dealing with it in the moment. However, there is a larger atmospheric issue at work. When the headlines are screaming everything from perceived injustice to social and economic hardship, it is important for the one person, for whom all of WWE's writing team is giving their full creative investment, to make decisions about his product that do more to keep fans happy enough that their response to long-term misery booking isn't to snap and attack the talent. It's for reasons like this that I didn't have an issue with, say, beach balls during live events. Distracting? Yes, but it was also a safety valve for any frustrations that fans were having with the show itself. It's also why you had clown-type babyface characters like Hillbilly Jim, Junkyard Dog, Brodus Clay, Adam Rose or even a babyface Sami Zayn to stave off the negative vibes. Win or lose, they got fans' minds off the fact that a heel had gotten over on the previous match. More importantly, however, it's why your face-to-heel win ratio was best worked out to favour the faces, at least on a few of the big matches. If a heel has to go over in the main event, you have at least one very exciting match just beforehand where the face or faces win with a big and memorable finish. Booking each card impacts the crowd's energy for the next card; booking long-term in a way that satisfies the crowd, if not sating them entirely, is how you build positive energy and how you avoid things getting so heated or negative that frustration spills over into anger. "WWE's heel-centric booking encourages fans to jump the rail and attack wrestlers" is certainly a take. F***, there are bigger issues at work if that's the case for the average fan, and they're not at WWE's end of the matter.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Nov 22, 2021 23:56:06 GMT -5
That's the best strategy for dealing with it in the moment. However, there is a larger atmospheric issue at work. When the headlines are screaming everything from perceived injustice to social and economic hardship, it is important for the one person, for whom all of WWE's writing team is giving their full creative investment, to make decisions about his product that do more to keep fans happy enough that their response to long-term misery booking isn't to snap and attack the talent. It's for reasons like this that I didn't have an issue with, say, beach balls during live events. Distracting? Yes, but it was also a safety valve for any frustrations that fans were having with the show itself. It's also why you had clown-type babyface characters like Hillbilly Jim, Junkyard Dog, Brodus Clay, Adam Rose or even a babyface Sami Zayn to stave off the negative vibes. Win or lose, they got fans' minds off the fact that a heel had gotten over on the previous match. More importantly, however, it's why your face-to-heel win ratio was best worked out to favour the faces, at least on a few of the big matches. If a heel has to go over in the main event, you have at least one very exciting match just beforehand where the face or faces win with a big and memorable finish. Booking each card impacts the crowd's energy for the next card; booking long-term in a way that satisfies the crowd, if not sating them entirely, is how you build positive energy and how you avoid things getting so heated or negative that frustration spills over into anger. "WWE's heel-centric booking encourages fans to jump the rail and attack wrestlers" is certainly a take. F***, there are bigger issues at work if that's the case for the average fan, and they're not at WWE's end of the matter. If that was the case, we’d have people jumping at Roman more often than not. If anything, it’s just some dipshit thinking he’s a tough guy by going after Seth for whatever reason, not necessarily because he’s a bad guy standing tall.
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Post by Kalmia on Nov 22, 2021 23:56:45 GMT -5
The fan jumped Seth and got a shot in, but it looks like Seth quickly got him in a front facelock when his brain caught up with what was happening. That fan had zero chance of getting a second shot in. Anyone can get jumped when they aren't expecting it. It says nothing about Seth's toughness or the fan's.
TL:DR - shut up Chavo
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