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Post by r. on Dec 15, 2021 12:09:37 GMT -5
So I'm using my lunch to basically put together an educated guess, This is based on what we know rather than speculation. WWE more than likely had Jeff under strict rules to help him maintain sobriety, They aren't stupid in that regard, They have most certainly seen the Victory Road incident.
On that particular night (The recent one where he rolled out and walked through the crowd) he may have had a minor relapse (Hence them offering him rehab services) he didn't feel it necessary and they were not willing to take any risks of it becoming worse and released him.
I don't think this is a work at all and I also think Matt is a bit too blinded by brotherly love.
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Post by lucas_lee on Dec 15, 2021 12:24:27 GMT -5
If Jeff didn't have a history of addiction issues I'd take the Hardys side but yeah they pissed through a lot of goodwill with his relapses. Hopefully no company takes him and he gets some time to heal up and get help
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Post by Jobes on Dec 15, 2021 15:02:40 GMT -5
I will say this: If Jeff Hardy worked WWE into releasing him, then it’s the greatest thing he’s ever done.
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Post by canceled4truth on Dec 15, 2021 15:08:51 GMT -5
I suppose some of you are lucky enough to have never lost someone you loved to addiction. I will just say, if Jeff Hardy is indeed faking it — which I seriously doubt he is — then that is a horrendous thing to do. Either way, I hope he gets help.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 15, 2021 16:05:21 GMT -5
I will say this: If Jeff Hardy worked WWE into releasing him, then it’s the greatest thing he’s ever done. And I'll say this: Celebrating someone faking a relapse is pretty ghoulish. That said, I'd be absolutely stunned beyond belief if Jeff faked relapsing
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 15, 2021 16:06:26 GMT -5
So I'm using my lunch to basically put together an educated guess, This is based on what we know rather than speculation. WWE more than likely had Jeff under strict rules to help him maintain sobriety, They aren't stupid in that regard, They have most certainly seen the Victory Road incident. On that particular night (The recent one where he rolled out and walked through the crowd) he may have had a minor relapse (Hence them offering him rehab services) he didn't feel it necessary and they were not willing to take any risks of it becoming worse and released him. I don't think this is a work at all and I also think Matt is a bit too blinded by brotherly love. I think there's some weight to this idea. And yeah, I'm a bit disappointed it Matt for not taking this more seriously
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 15, 2021 17:22:22 GMT -5
I will say this: If Jeff Hardy worked WWE into releasing him, then it’s the greatest thing he’s ever done. And he'll have made it harder for people who genuinely want and need to get out of their contract for health reasons to get the WWE to let them out, and no other company will be able to trust him going forward.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 15, 2021 17:28:35 GMT -5
I dont like talking about hypothetical with 0 evidence,but I will point this out,this also works towards the point of talking without any proof
For people saying WWE would sue?How?
Hardy didnt lie, he didnt do anything, can WWE "prove" he faked his well-being to be release?No. WWE is the one that approached him with an ultimatum.
No court of law would accept "you see he faked being high" without anything to back it up,especially because so many things in wrestling can make you feel hurt or sick
Covid , Concussion , Bad Stomach, Jetlag, Nausea,hurt bones.Any of those would be acceptable reasons to be pulled off a match
And hell,he can even just say he was high,I dont think he has denied or admitted he was high, just that "he is okay"
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Post by Fade on Dec 15, 2021 18:50:08 GMT -5
sigh
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Post by eJm on Dec 15, 2021 18:55:45 GMT -5
Last time I’ll say it; move on from the speculation. Unless something’s come out about it, it’s fruitless to discuss.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 15, 2021 19:04:17 GMT -5
sigh Ok but itd be weird if The Young Bucks didnt make reference to Jeff Hardy on Twitter right? They make reference to everything, doesn't always mean something.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 16, 2021 21:48:34 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, if Jeff went back to WWE, does any wellness policy violations he has resets to zero?
Or do they retroactively get reapplied?
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Post by Feyrhausen on Dec 16, 2021 21:51:18 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, if Jeff went back to WWE, does any wellness policy violations he has resets to zero? Or do they retroactively get reapplied? I believe he has to do a rehab stint before any strikes are dropped.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 16, 2021 21:54:50 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, if Jeff went back to WWE, does any wellness policy violations he has resets to zero? Or do they retroactively get reapplied? What current wellness policy violations does he have? The last time I can find him getting a violation was 2008 and you can remove strikes if you're clean long enough like Orton did. I imagine that would apply to Jeff.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Dec 16, 2021 22:01:21 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, if Jeff went back to WWE, does any wellness policy violations he has resets to zero? Or do they retroactively get reapplied? Here’s what the Wellness Policy says: I bolded that part for emphasis. And here’s more info on the Redemption Program that Jeff would be enrolled in:
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Post by Jobes on Dec 18, 2021 16:40:51 GMT -5
I will say this: If Jeff Hardy worked WWE into releasing him, then it’s the greatest thing he’s ever done. And I'll say this: Celebrating someone faking a relapse is pretty ghoulish. That said, I'd be absolutely stunned beyond belief if Jeff faked relapsing Ooga Booga, I guess? All I know is that Jeff Hardy walked out on a match, and refused to go to rehab. Probably because he doesn’t need to go to rehab.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 18, 2021 17:32:56 GMT -5
sigh Ok but itd be weird if The Young Bucks didnt make reference to Jeff Hardy on Twitter right? They make reference to everything, doesn't always mean something. I mean that is a little too on the nose If they said nothing about Hardy on twitter, under the circumstances no one would care but this will only drive up speculation This whole thing is just a mess but they thrive in messes, so will see how it all plays out. Def trolling on their end
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 18, 2021 17:50:46 GMT -5
I think it's pretty unavoidable that Jeff's going to turn up in AEW the instant his no compete runs out, if only for the stupid shit Jim Ross said, but I'll certainly think less of the company for doing it.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 18, 2021 18:29:20 GMT -5
And I'll say this: Celebrating someone faking a relapse is pretty ghoulish. That said, I'd be absolutely stunned beyond belief if Jeff faked relapsing Ooga Booga, I guess? All I know is that Jeff Hardy walked out on a match, and refused to go to rehab. Probably because he doesn’t need to go to rehab.Yeah no that's actually how it works, crazy enough. If you say you don't need rehab it means you don't need rehab and you're fine. Addiction works by the same system as 'dibs'
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Post by Jobes on Dec 18, 2021 19:30:46 GMT -5
Ooga Booga, I guess? All I know is that Jeff Hardy walked out on a match, and refused to go to rehab. Probably because he doesn’t need to go to rehab.Yeah no that's actually how it works, crazy enough. If you say you don't need rehab it means you don't need rehab and you're fine. Addiction works by the same system as 'dibs' I see you’re being facetious, but it could also very well be that he doesn’t have a problem. Let’s not jump to conclusions and say that Jeff is doomed to repeat past mistakes. His brother says he’s fine. Jeff says he’s fine. Novel concept here: Maybe he’s fine. …or maybe he’s not fine, and rehab is not the solution that he needs. We can’t paint a full picture on dirt sheets and speculation.
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