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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 28, 2022 13:44:43 GMT -5
It's amazing how the people running this heap of flaming trash are still such marks for themselves that they think "Oh sorry we pissed on your foot for no reason, please don't go get another job, we'll put you in our Hall of Fame!" is some kind of sweet deal. It's doubly amazing when you consider just how much they treat this institution they care about so much like a piece of trash and smash against its reputation. To be fair, a lot of the talent seem to take pride in going into the HOF. Sure, but usually not as an apology bargaining chip. It's a different energy when you just burned a bridge with someone mere weeks earlier to be like "Wait no haha don't go you're so sexy what about our hall of fame". The hall of fame isn't nothing, but it sure as hell seems like nothing off the heels of slighting the guy like that. If they want him so bad they could always try things like a new contract with a bunch of money and perks.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 28, 2022 13:49:51 GMT -5
I do wonder what the f*** is going on backstage at WWE. For all of their insanity, it usually felt like shit like contracts, drug tests, etc. didn't fall through the cracks like it is right now. It's like their infrastructure has just completely collapsed.
I still think there's more to this story than we know and maybe Jeff isn't entirely innocent, but WWE throwing out an HoF induction makes me think they're desperate and/or know that Jeff's got them bent over a barrel.
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Post by john84 on Jan 28, 2022 13:53:52 GMT -5
I do wonder what the f*** is going on backstage at WWE. For all of their insanity, it usually felt like shit like contracts, drug tests, etc. didn't fall through the cracks like it is right now. It's like their infrastructure has just completely collapsed. I still think there's more to this story than we know and maybe Jeff isn't entirely innocent, but WWE throwing out an HoF induction makes me think they're desperate and/or know that Jeff's got them bent over a barrel. Rome is collapsing maybe?... And, no, I doubt Jeff is entirely innocent himself IMO there's probably faults at both ends here.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 28, 2022 14:05:54 GMT -5
I do wonder what the f*** is going on backstage at WWE. For all of their insanity, it usually felt like shit like contracts, drug tests, etc. didn't fall through the cracks like it is right now. It's like their infrastructure has just completely collapsed. I still think there's more to this story than we know and maybe Jeff isn't entirely innocent, but WWE throwing out an HoF induction makes me think they're desperate and/or know that Jeff's got them bent over a barrel. There’s somewhat of a history of contract issues. They unknowingly let Rock’s contract expire in 2004/2005. That seems to have happened a few times over the years. Johnny Ace hired the wrong one-legged wrestler once, too.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 28, 2022 14:09:11 GMT -5
I do wonder what the f*** is going on backstage at WWE. For all of their insanity, it usually felt like shit like contracts, drug tests, etc. didn't fall through the cracks like it is right now. It's like their infrastructure has just completely collapsed. I still think there's more to this story than we know and maybe Jeff isn't entirely innocent, but WWE throwing out an HoF induction makes me think they're desperate and/or know that Jeff's got them bent over a barrel. There’s somewhat of a history of contract issues. They unknowingly let Rock’s contract expire in 2004/2005. That seems to have happened a few times over the years. Johnny Ace hired the wrong one-legged wrestler once, too. Yeah, I just think it feels like those are more outlier than a trend, though. Things seem a little more out of sorts now.
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Post by eJm on Jan 28, 2022 14:16:21 GMT -5
There’s somewhat of a history of contract issues. They unknowingly let Rock’s contract expire in 2004/2005. That seems to have happened a few times over the years. Johnny Ace hired the wrong one-legged wrestler once, too. Yeah, I just think it feels like those are more outlier than a trend, though. Things seem a little more out of sorts now. What I think is a factor, and I have no way to prove it but it seems to line up, is that WWE let a lot of office workers go in the last couple of years and, as big companies like to do, think that those same jobs can be done by a smaller team of people instead of the big teams needed and, as most big companies are shown, it hasn't panned out that way. Especially with stuff like social media and the website which we know got absolutely ravaged in the first couple of cuts in 2020.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 28, 2022 16:40:53 GMT -5
Yeah just... wow... Not even shocked if Jeff walks to AEW after March 9th. I guess he wouldn't have a non-compete either unless that IS the end of his non-compete
Sounds like they really pissed him off, and given he's been around Matt since he left, it would not shock me if that was what happened in the end and it's crazy if unsurprising how hard WWE shot themselves in the foot and could have avoided this extreme.
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Post by mattyy on Jan 28, 2022 17:00:50 GMT -5
Yeah just... wow... Not even shocked if Jeff walks to AEW after March 9th. I guess he wouldn't have a non-compete either unless that IS the end of his non-compete Sounds like they really pissed him off, and given he's been around Matt since he left, it would not shock me if that was what happened in the end and it's crazy if unsurprising how hard WWE shot themselves in the foot and could have avoided this extreme. yeah Matt selling HFO ownership to Andrade is the perfect setup to bring in Jeff and have a mini feud with both Private Party(who not only would be elevated by working with the Hardy's, but also on Cloud 9 for getting to work with a team they said inspired them), and Butcher/Blade.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 28, 2022 17:16:19 GMT -5
I know Jeff Hardy has zero benefit of the doubt at this point. But if you're going to fire a guy for refusing to go to rehab, at least have actual evidence he's relapsed in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2022 17:37:15 GMT -5
Could Jeff have been playing 3D chess? Desperate to join his brother he is sober, but pretends to be drunk to get sent home and then has the negative test to prove to new employers he’s safe and retain fan goodwill.
Pretty irresponsible from Jeff tbh if true but what they’ve pulled with Brodie and are currently doing with Ali among others are going to make some wrestlers get creative. Whichever agent or backstage suit fell for it is getting fired too, the old man must loath being made to look a rube especially to benefit the competition.
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Post by King Boo on Jan 28, 2022 17:44:40 GMT -5
I can understand WWE's skepticism and worry, given Jeff's history, but they still need to actually wait for all the information before making decisions, instead of snap judgments based solely on that skepticism.
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Post by eJm on Jan 28, 2022 17:45:24 GMT -5
Could Jeff have been playing 3D chess? Desperate to join his brother he is sober, but pretends to be drunk to get sent home and then has the negative test to prove to new employers he’s safe and retain fan goodwill. Sources at WWE to SRS said that they didn’t think he’d do anything like that and, honestly, if they think he would do something like that, they’d probably just send him home for the rest of his contract. So I have no real reason to believe anything like that happened. I also don’t think Jeff would have any reason to think they’d fire him so brashly even if that was his intention.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 28, 2022 18:05:57 GMT -5
I do wonder what the f*** is going on backstage at WWE. For all of their insanity, it usually felt like shit like contracts, drug tests, etc. didn't fall through the cracks like it is right now. It's like their infrastructure has just completely collapsed. I still think there's more to this story than we know and maybe Jeff isn't entirely innocent, but WWE throwing out an HoF induction makes me think they're desperate and/or know that Jeff's got them bent over a barrel. They've released a lot of office and other backstage staff. Most big companies have a lot of jobs that nobody would miss if they were gone but also a few people that basically keep things running without management realising just how important they are. They've probably release some of those and are now wondering what's gone wrong.
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Post by Legion on Jan 28, 2022 18:25:54 GMT -5
Eh, WWE did the right thing based on what they had in front of them.
Hardy deserves nothing benefit of the doubt wise, though I am not convinced this wasnt staged at this point.
Bravo to him if so.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 28, 2022 18:44:22 GMT -5
It also wouldn't really track with the idea he's mad they haven't shown him his drug test results if he wanted all along to get fired.
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Post by eJm on Jan 28, 2022 18:47:56 GMT -5
It also wouldn't really track with the idea he's mad they haven't shown him his drug test results if he wanted all along to get fired. Like, that's the key thing. Unless we hear otherwise, they had nothing. If they fired him and didn't have him do a drug test, that'd be one thing (and hey, they can legally do that) but if they had him do it, not give him the results and fired him anyway, that's just bad on their end. There's no real way that Jeff would have expected him to be fired. If we're believing he had a big brain play in mind, he'd likely expect a long suspension because that's how their own drug policy works and even then, that might lead to a contract extension in September for time missed. EDIT: And I'll clarify, I'm not saying 100% that Jeff did nothing wrong or nothing happened but if you're going to conduct this investigation, conduct it. Otherwise, you might as well not have drug testing.
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Post by Legion on Jan 28, 2022 19:09:28 GMT -5
Eh, him arguing the point would be exactly what you would do if you faked it.
Im not putting anything past anyone at this point
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2022 20:19:11 GMT -5
If I was him, I'd want to win the Rumble and face Roman at Mania. One last title run.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Jan 28, 2022 21:13:14 GMT -5
Eh, him arguing the point would be exactly what you would do if you faked it. Im not putting anything past anyone at this point Being silent and waiting for it to blow over is also something you would do if you faked it. Draws less attention to yourself. Arguing the point does not automatically equal that someone faked something. The opposite can be true just as reasonably. He was making noise because he knew he was innocent. And was proven so. If you want someone to be guilty, then they'll be guilty no matter what they do.
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Post by r. on Jan 28, 2022 23:30:13 GMT -5
If I was him, I'd want to win the Rumble and face Roman at Mania. One last title run. Jeff would not be going over Roman who've they've spent the better part of 2 full years building as the ultra uber omega level 9000 code red king of kings end boss.
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