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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 9, 2021 12:06:21 GMT -5
Well, damn... After that other thread, I just really hoped it wasn't anything like this. I don't know the whole deal but, seems clear, Jeff needs to just really really work on Jeff right now and being the best he can be for his family. Nothing else is important in comparison.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 9, 2021 12:07:48 GMT -5
WWE had no choice but to do this. They offered him help and refused it. I hope whatever he does he finds the help he needs and realize his problems. They won't go away until you address them. I hope he does for his long term help and his family.
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Post by chrom on Dec 9, 2021 12:11:25 GMT -5
Oh wow. That’s crazy and scary. I hope wherever he lands he gets help. I really think it’s best if he just retires. Full stop. He's been doing this for 30 years, it's time for him to walk away permanently
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 9, 2021 12:19:46 GMT -5
Just saw it on my IG and haven’t had time to read through the the thread yet cause I’m at work
But damn I kept saying they shouldn’t fire him only if whatever happened was a relapse and he refused help. I think that is possible and if true it is a shame because because that means they have washed their hands with him on this
Whatever happened at the house show got him fired.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 9, 2021 12:20:29 GMT -5
Sorry if this offends anyone. Given Jeff's well-documented history of competing while in less than ideal shape I'm surprised he hasn't seriously injured himself or someone else yet. It is a minor miracle nothing has gone horribly wrong. Maybe he'll finally get the help he needs this time. We can only hope... Honestly him competing in that shape had probably lead to him being as injured and in the shape he is now.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 9, 2021 12:27:43 GMT -5
Whatever the situation is, hopefully he doesn't just turn around and work somewhere else. Hopefully he takes some time to try to get his head on straight.
Hopefully he learns from this situation more than Umaga did in the same position given how that wound up.
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Post by markymark on Dec 9, 2021 12:29:54 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy wife said Jeff is fine(before putting her twitter profile on private)
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Post by pinja on Dec 9, 2021 12:31:08 GMT -5
I half-assed watching Jeff's Broken Skull Session interview from some weeks ago. In hindsight he came off as someone who is both very much aware of his life-long addiction and the struggle that comes along, but who is also indifferent to it's effects. His case clearly is unlike many others'.
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Post by imthewalrus97 on Dec 9, 2021 12:32:47 GMT -5
Damn. I was hoping it was just an injury. I can't blame WWE for making this move, especially if he refused help. But I hope those within WWE, along with his fans keep supporting him and encourage him to get the help he needs. If he doesn't ever come back to wrestling, who cares? I'd rather he work on getting sober, staying on the wagon and being there as a good husband to his wife and father to his daughters.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Dec 9, 2021 12:33:33 GMT -5
Whatever the situation is, hopefully he doesn't just turn around and work somewhere else. Hopefully he takes some time to try to get his head on straight. Hopefully he learns from this situation more than Umaga did in the same position given how that wound up. I hate that that name also immediately popped into my head… I so badly want Jeff to be a happy ending. Go be dad. Go make music. Go paint. Go ride dirt bikes with your girls. Get the HOF in a few years and ride into the sunset as an All-Timer.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 9, 2021 12:34:25 GMT -5
I really feel for Jeff here. Hope whatever issues he's dealing with can be resolved and he can get past them. And yeah, I think it'd be best for him to stay out of the wrestling business for awhile, if not retire outright. If he returns to wrestling, I think it'd probably be best if it was the same promotion Matt is in at the time because he'd probably act as an on-the-road support system for him. I know what you're saying but I don't see why Matt should have to take on the burden on being someone's on-the-road support system. It seems like he's done as much as he can to help Jeff.
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Post by cornettesracket on Dec 9, 2021 12:38:14 GMT -5
I don't know what the answer for Jeff Hardy is anymore. He is refusing rehab, and as much as I think he needs support, I don't think another wrestling company(looking at you AEW) is the right environment for him. If he is to continue in this business, then keep him the hell out of a goddamn ring! I can't believe this has happened again. Jesus Christ WWE, you truly are TNA. MORONS! How is this WWEs fault ? They reportedly offered him help and rehab and Jeff reportedly refused their help. There’s lots you can fairly blame wwe for but this isn’t one of them. and btw I agree with the rest of your post that being in the wrestling business may not be good for Jeff hardy as things stand.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 9, 2021 12:43:01 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy should do Rehab, then reunite with Matt. Going to a company with a perceived lax testing policy and joining a tag team with another broken down guy sounds like the absolute worst case scenario to me, for Matt as well as Jeff.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 9, 2021 12:46:11 GMT -5
The DUI back in 2019 was concerning for me and it was mentioned in other posts before his release, someone like him shouldn't have been on the full time schedule given his issues and his wear and tear. A couple months before the DUI he also got arrested for public intoxication while buying even more beer. This is disappointing but I don't think it's that shocking. Dude might have gotten off drugs for at least a bit but he never seemed to have his act together. If he'd been on the road in 2020 I think things would've come to a head a lot sooner.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 9, 2021 12:46:11 GMT -5
I'd say the ideal would be Jeff just not wrestling again because it seems like a toxic environment for him. If he gets to a place he can handle it then great but he's basically had a solid 20 years or so of consistent problems and is probably in constant pain at this point, the last thing the guy should be doing right now is eyeing AEW or anywhere else.
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 9, 2021 12:46:19 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy should do Rehab, then reunite with Matt. Going to a company with a perceived lax testing policy and joining a tag team with another broken down guy sounds like the absolute worst case scenario to me. We can agree to disagree when it comes to Matt Hardy.
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Post by pinja on Dec 9, 2021 12:51:03 GMT -5
I don't know what the answer for Jeff Hardy is anymore. He is refusing rehab, and as much as I think he needs support, I don't think another wrestling company(looking at you AEW) is the right environment for him. If he is to continue in this business, then keep him the hell out of a goddamn ring! I can't believe this has happened again. Jesus Christ WWE, you truly are TNA. MORONS! How is this WWEs fault ? They reportedly offered him help and rehab and Jeff reportedly refused their help. There’s lots you can fairly blame wwe for but this isn’t one of them. and btw I agree with the rest of your post that being in the wrestling business may not be good for Jeff hardy as things stand. But Hardy didn't show up intoxicated, denying help and then going out to have a match, has he? Someone at WWE (actually several people, including his teammates and opponents) didn't notice that he shouldn't be in that match, whether Jeff was convincingly acting sober or not. Although that doesn't mean that anyone outside of Jeff himself is to blame.
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Post by cornettesracket on Dec 9, 2021 12:52:53 GMT -5
How is this WWEs fault ? They reportedly offered him help and rehab and Jeff reportedly refused their help. There’s lots you can fairly blame wwe for but this isn’t one of them. and btw I agree with the rest of your post that being in the wrestling business may not be good for Jeff hardy as things stand. But Hardy didn't show up intoxicated, denying help and then going out to have a match, has he? Someone at WWE (actually several people, including his teammates and opponents) didn't notice that he shouldn't be in that match, whether Jeff was convincingly acting sober or not. Although that doesn't mean that anyone outside of Jeff himself is to blame. Well unless he’s was victory road 2011 Jeff hardy I think it’s unfair to blame anyone there that night for the situation.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 9, 2021 12:53:17 GMT -5
I don't know if being away from wrestling is good for Jeff Hardy, or if the idle time would be worse for him.
But if he's going off into the crowd high, that's an incredible liability.
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Post by pinja on Dec 9, 2021 12:56:52 GMT -5
But Hardy didn't show up intoxicated, denying help and then going out to have a match, has he? Someone at WWE (actually several people, including his teammates and opponents) didn't notice that he shouldn't be in that match, whether Jeff was convincingly acting sober or not. Although that doesn't mean that anyone outside of Jeff himself is to blame. Well unless he’s was victory road 2011 Jeff hardy I think it’s unfair to blame anyone there that night for the situation. Oh, I tried to close with that. Whether anyone but Jeff is to blame can't be judged from the outside.
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