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Post by markymark on Dec 26, 2021 11:43:52 GMT -5
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 26, 2021 12:00:45 GMT -5
This whole thing was about Cody and not about Sammy at all. He was just a means to an end, and therein lies the problem. The TNT doesn't matter to AEW as much as Cody does.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Dec 26, 2021 16:55:01 GMT -5
For sure
I think in a couple of years, people will forget the reign even happened tbh
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Post by Celgress on Dec 26, 2021 17:19:30 GMT -5
I'm sad for Sammy. His reign was the drizzling shits, poor dude. I cannot help but wonder if his losing the belt and the overall lackluster booking overall of his title reign, was influenced by the rumored backstage situation between him and Conti? Maybe he was punished?
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Post by Celgress on Dec 26, 2021 17:28:15 GMT -5
I feel like Eddie Kingston should have beaten Miro honestly. It felt like AEW never really had a firm idea of what to do with Sammy as champion, him being dragged into the IC vs. ATT stuff did not help matters. preach friend, preach
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Post by markymark on Dec 26, 2021 17:38:36 GMT -5
Something people are overlooking is that Sammy lost his edge since turning face, lately it felt that Sammy was generic babyface number 23424 unlike PnP who have kept their edge. In the ring stuff the issue with him was the lack of in ring psychology/storytelling (see that match vs Spears), his matches have been great imo because of his opponents leading the match(Miro, Lethal, Ethan, Nese).
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Post by bob on Dec 26, 2021 17:41:33 GMT -5
I'm kind of tempted to say Brodie's was worse. Sammy held the belt longer and defeated credible opponents before losing the belt.
Brodie beat jobbers and lost the belt an admittedly great dog collar match to Cody, while only having the belt for 3 weeks.
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Post by Celgress on Dec 26, 2021 17:42:02 GMT -5
Something people are overlooking is that Sammy lost his edge since turning face, lately it felt that Sammy was generic babyface number 23424 unlike PnP who have kept their edge. In the ring stuff the issue with him was the lack of in ring psychology/storytelling (see that match vs Spears), his matches have been great imo because of his opponents leading the match(Miro, Lethal, Ethan, Nese). Speaking of which, I feel Ethan, Nese, or even Lethal would have been a far better successor as TNT Champ than who they picked just my two cents. Ethan, for example, as TNT Champ would be freakin' amazing, gold on the mic and gold in the ring.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 26, 2021 18:10:20 GMT -5
I'm kind of tempted to say Brodie's was worse. Sammy held the belt longer and defeated credible opponents before losing the belt. Brodie beat jobbers and lost the belt an admittedly great dog collar match to Cody, while only having the belt for 3 weeks. Brodie actually had it for more about two months though yeah, I agree that it was the worst reign.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 26, 2021 19:32:18 GMT -5
I cannot help but wonder if his losing the belt and the overall lackluster booking overall of his title reign, was influenced by the rumored backstage situation between him and Conti? Maybe he was punished? We really need to stop with the Guevara/Conti speculation, we don't know what's going on one way or another to even go down the road of "Backstage heat/punishment", and that's not making things any better.
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Post by Celgress on Dec 26, 2021 20:06:34 GMT -5
I cannot help but wonder if his losing the belt and the overall lackluster booking overall of his title reign, was influenced by the rumored backstage situation between him and Conti? Maybe he was punished? We really need to stop with the Guevara/Conti speculation, we don't know what's going on one way or another to even go down the road of "Backstage heat/punishment", and that's not making things any better. Well, it might be distasteful but Sammy did get in trouble before backstage for horn dog activity (the whole rape "joke" incident) so this could have been strike two for him with Tony & the EVPs. Plus, if true, this paints AEW in a somewhat negative light after Sammy used their show to propose to his long-term girlfriend. I can see this causing nuclear shoot heat.
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Post by eJm on Dec 26, 2021 20:31:32 GMT -5
Let’s not make it a Sammy/Conti thing unless anyone has any report or anything more solid than it might be, yeah?
I’ve said this in another thread but we’re better than Twitter.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 26, 2021 21:37:04 GMT -5
Not just the worst TNT reign but the worst reign in company history.
Absolute afterthought of a champion.
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Post by Derk! on Dec 26, 2021 21:51:12 GMT -5
Dude needs to be a heel again. He seems like the nicest guy in real life, but his character is at his best when he is a slimeball heel. That's not to say him getting stuck in the feud with ATT did his title run any favors either.
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Post by robferatu on Dec 26, 2021 22:55:42 GMT -5
I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but for me in terms of worst AEW TNT Championships reigns... I feel like Sammy and Mr. Brodie Lee's are relatively neck and neck.
Aside from the shocking way in which Lee won the championship, and having successful defenses against Orange Cassidy and Dustin Rhodes. His reign essentially turned into a transitional reign back to Cody Rhodes. I wouldn't be surprised if Lee's medical issues that lead to his untimely death led to his short reign, but in general his reign has to be considered one of the weakest so far as well.
My problem with Guevera's reign is he just had a series of random title defenses, and nothing in which he could sink his teeth into in terms of a storyline.
Don't get me wrong, his matches were great, but I think the Inner Circle vs. American Top Team feud hindered his reign.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 26, 2021 23:39:45 GMT -5
Probably the worst reign of any champion in the company thus far
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Post by markymark on Dec 27, 2021 10:07:03 GMT -5
Worst reign ever? That goes to Nyla tbh.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 27, 2021 11:46:36 GMT -5
I'd still give the worst title reign period to SCU. It was a title run nobody particularly wanted, the crowd didn't care, and it started the division off on completely the wrong foot. I think you could argue the damage still isn't entirely undone from it with how many of those early teams are just treading water these days and how it didn't really do anything for the goal of trying to position Scorpio as a top face.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Dec 27, 2021 11:49:16 GMT -5
The title reign just ended and I barely remember anything interesting that happened during it. Easily the worst title reign in the whole comapny.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 27, 2021 11:50:10 GMT -5
To me, the worst one ever was SCU. They weren't very over, had fine matches but generally under delivered, their feud with Dark Order was actively hurting the company, and they had the belts at a time when 3-4 other teams definitely could've used the belts more than they did. Sammy was still over, had good matches, and at least has something resembling a feud with Ethan Page. Plus he had a memorable title win at least that played into a few weeks of storytelling.
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