Fade
Patti Mayonnaise
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Post by Fade on Jan 1, 2022 23:19:52 GMT -5
Sign Chris Bey since Impact clearly doesn’t know what to do with him. He already has a ton of history with guys like Lio Rush, Jungle Boy, Lee Moriarty, and others. He’d even be a great rival for Adam Cole. Not to mention Bey, like Rush, has crossover potential with his rap career. Man, I’ve wanted Chris Bey in AEW since first catching him on iMPACT when the crossover stuff started happening. He’s a star. Young too.
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Post by sportatorium on Jan 2, 2022 0:24:41 GMT -5
TK's initial tweet screams "I'm really rich and in charge, but I try to be a nice guy". Hope he understands why the backlash happened and can learn not to grab his phone & start typing next time something like this is presented to him.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 2, 2022 0:35:13 GMT -5
The tweet is still up, maybe he’s busy, but it doesn’t seem like he’s sorry if he leaves it up.
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deezy
Don Corleone
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Post by deezy on Jan 2, 2022 0:55:55 GMT -5
The tweet is still up, maybe he’s busy, but it doesn’t seem like he’s sorry if he leaves it up. He isn't too busy to delete it since he has already tweeted twice since the tweet. He doesn't want to delete it.
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Post by Error on Jan 2, 2022 0:59:23 GMT -5
The tweet is still up, maybe he’s busy, but it doesn’t seem like he’s sorry if he leaves it up. He isn't too busy to delete it since he has already tweeted twice since the tweet. He doesn't want to delete it. I think deleting now would look worse, everyone has seen it, at this point I think he'd be better off to own it/address it.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 2, 2022 10:15:59 GMT -5
The tweet is still up, maybe he’s busy, but it doesn’t seem like he’s sorry if he leaves it up. Yeah leaving the tweet up as is without apologizing gives off the impression that he’s too proud to apologize, or doesn’t actually think what he wrote was wrong and just talked privately to Lio to placate him/quiet him. He really should address it.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
Fry's dog Seymour
Development through Destruction.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 2, 2022 10:29:50 GMT -5
During the Andre the Giant documentary, Vince McMahon mentions that he has a facility to get rid of negatives. The quote was, "I have a facility to get rid of negatives, very quickly. And if something hurts me.. I get rid of it." Maybe Tony needs to look into this theory? Maybe do an extent but, I would never advise that for everything. It’s clear that Vince’s adherence to that “facility” hasn’t always served him well. Evidenced by the fact that he nearly broke down talking about Andre not long after saying that.
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Post by cornettesracket on Jan 2, 2022 10:33:11 GMT -5
This whole thing would have been just another wrestling story that would have passed by, but the reason there’s 43 pages on this message board about it because of Tony Khan and not big swole. So the fallout is his fault and as I’ve already said I can’t understand why he looked at that tweet that he’s written and somewhere in his head he decided “This will end well”, and for a guy who’s seems intelligent and clued in it was woefully tone deaf. It really really takes effort to have people say “well even vince McMahon wouldn’t do that”, and hopefully Tony can learn from this because if he does than great, but we need to see actions and not just words.
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Jan 2, 2022 10:37:23 GMT -5
Swole just posted a screenshot of a dm she got from someone calling her the N word. This is why Tony Khan needs to apologize. By disrespecting her on his huge platform, he’s given these pieces of shit the courage to take it even further.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 2, 2022 10:53:04 GMT -5
This whole thing would have been just another wrestling story that would have passed by, but the reason there’s 43 pages on this message board about it because of Tony Khan and not big swole. So the fallout is his fault and as I’ve already said I can’t understand why he looked at that tweet that he’s written and somewhere in his head he decided “This will end well”, and for a guy who’s seems intelligent and clued in it was woefully tone deaf. It really really takes effort to have people say “well even vince McMahon wouldn’t do that”, and hopefully Tony can learn from this because if he does than great, but we need to see actions and not just words. Yes and No This would still be a story because she is saying something with diversity that has been talked about and now outright confirmed by a POC who was on the roster. It wouldn't have been 40 something pages but it would hit double digits With TK doing his I got black friends defense, he basically confirmed what some of us has thought and the fact that he thought it was cool to post and still hasn't apologized has now put him in a negative light. You still have some people trying to somehow frame Swole as being bitter or trying to pick holes when what she said was constructive criticism. That was already a thread worth talking about since we have already but TK threw fire on it and now this won't be something that will stay active for a very long time
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Post by flowercity on Jan 2, 2022 11:00:12 GMT -5
The want/need for TK to delete is insane. If he has listened like Lio says what’s the use? Is it better to delete history and hide from it or acknowledge it and move on? What does deleting help?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 2, 2022 11:16:23 GMT -5
The want/need for TK to delete is insane. If he has listened like Lio says what’s the use? Is it better to delete history and hide from it or acknowledge it and move on? What does deleting help? Apologizing for the words you said that hurt people, owning it, and removing them is absolutely the thing to do. This isn't about 'deleting history' or hiding what he said, it's about taking down a dumb post that needlessly lashed out at someone critical of him.
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Post by cornettesracket on Jan 2, 2022 11:16:34 GMT -5
This whole thing would have been just another wrestling story that would have passed by, but the reason there’s 43 pages on this message board about it because of Tony Khan and not big swole. So the fallout is his fault and as I’ve already said I can’t understand why he looked at that tweet that he’s written and somewhere in his head he decided “This will end well”, and for a guy who’s seems intelligent and clued in it was woefully tone deaf. It really really takes effort to have people say “well even vince McMahon wouldn’t do that”, and hopefully Tony can learn from this because if he does than great, but we need to see actions and not just words. Yes and No This would still be a story because she is saying something with diversity that has been talked about and now outright confirmed by a POC who was on the roster. It wouldn't have been 40 something pages but it would hit double digits With TK doing his I got black friends defense, he basically confirmed what some of us has thought and the fact that he thought it was cool to post and still hasn't apologized has now put him in a negative light. You still have some people trying to somehow frame Swole as being bitter or trying to pick holes when what she said was constructive criticism. That was already a thread worth talking about since we have already but TK threw fire on it and now this won't be something that will stay active for a very long time Well yes she added some details and confirmed what we kind of already knew without it being stated outright.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 2, 2022 11:20:32 GMT -5
The want/need for TK to delete is insane. If he has listened like Lio says what’s the use? Is it better to delete history and hide from it or acknowledge it and move on? What does deleting help? Apologizing for the words you said that hurt people, owning it, and removing them is absolutely the thing to do. This isn't about 'deleting history' or hiding what he said, it's about taking down a dumb post that needlessly lashed out at someone critical of him. Correct He needs to address it. If he wants to leave it up "to own for his mistakes" fine but the fact he is leaving it and saying NOTHING!!!! only makes him look more shitty. Talking to Lio could be pure lip service if isn't addressing this fiasco You (TK) quick to open your mouth to talk shit, well be quick to apologize and show some type of contrition
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Post by cornettesracket on Jan 2, 2022 11:21:13 GMT -5
Swole just posted a screenshot of a dm she got from someone calling her the N word. This is why Tony Khan needs to apologize. By disrespecting her on his huge platform, he’s given these pieces of shit the courage to take it even further. Well that’s classy by that person isn’t it. Those kind of people don’t need courage but it emboldens them when they perceive it as being made more okay to say. I mean we saw it with Tay Conti and her having to suspend/delete her twitter because for the many good things that social media has done, it unfortunately has given some people the completely false belief that they can say whatever the hell they are thinking at any waking moment which is completely not the case. Every thought doesn’t need a tweet to borrow the George Carlin line and use it for social media.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 2, 2022 11:23:37 GMT -5
The want/need for TK to delete is insane. If he has listened like Lio says what’s the use? Is it better to delete history and hide from it or acknowledge it and move on? What does deleting help? Did he really listen tho Lio says he listened but he could have just easily bullshitted Lio as well.
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Post by cornettesracket on Jan 2, 2022 11:25:47 GMT -5
The want/need for TK to delete is insane. If he has listened like Lio says what’s the use? Is it better to delete history and hide from it or acknowledge it and move on? What does deleting help? Did he really listen tho Lio says he listened but he could have just easily bullshitted Lio as well. Well we will see I suppose. Actions speak louder than words as someone once said.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 2, 2022 11:29:20 GMT -5
Did he really listen tho Lio says he listened but he could have just easily bullshitted Lio as well. Well we will see I suppose. Actions speak louder than words as someone once said. Without question Even with an apology he still going to have people looking at sideways and that's fine because actions still will need to match the words. But if he doesn't say anything and just tries to sweep this under the rug, anytime he tries to prop up a black wrestler he's going to get harsh words for it In the end, he simply should just kept his mouth shut
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 2, 2022 11:33:14 GMT -5
Huh, the wrestling world decided to wake up in 2022 and choose chaos again.
Took me a while to finally read through everything, and basically I think TK needs to reign in his emotions when dealing with the public, especially anything regarding diversity in the workplace.
This is a digital age of wrestling. Fans are interconnected more than ever, they’re talking to a wide range of diverse wrestling fans on and offline all over the world, from all kinds of cultures/backgrounds. Of course they’re going to want more range in the kinds of people who are being pushed up the card currently. I don’t think Swole’s criticisms were even that particularly harsh. She basically said maybe the company could put forward a little effort in reaching new demographics, because she saw some complacency on their part.
You don’t even have to look at it as a matter of “justice”- simply put, Tony is leaving a lot of money on the table by acting pissy about it. Variety sells, freshness and new faces sell. There’s a lot of value in the established stars AEW’s recently signed, but we’ve all seen what happens when a company falls too in love with major acquisitions over their home development.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 2, 2022 11:34:25 GMT -5
Apologizing for the words you said that hurt people, owning it, and removing them is absolutely the thing to do. This isn't about 'deleting history' or hiding what he said, it's about taking down a dumb post that needlessly lashed out at someone critical of him. Correct He needs to address it. If he wants to leave it up "to own for his mistakes" fine but the fact he is leaving it and saying NOTHING!!!! only makes him look more shitty. Talking to Lio could be pure lip service if isn't addressing this fiasco You (TK) quick to open your mouth to talk shit, well be quick to apologize and show some type of contrition If he wants to make an example of himself he's still gotta at least walk it back. Say it was unnecessary and hurtful and he's sorry, and he's keeping it up to hold himself accountable. But given the personal attack on Swole, frankly if she wants it down it should be down no matter what. Like him meeting with Lio? That's good, hopefully. I said pages back he needed to talk to the black talent on his roster and air this shit out. If he wants to commit to doing better he needsto work back and start with this. Leaving it up with no comment is standing by it.
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