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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 17:52:25 GMT -5
Honestly, the way Tony went about it was pretty bad and I am glad cooler heads prevailed but I don’t agree with Swole nor do I agree with the way she went about it by being nice to Tony’s face and then saying this in an interview which is why I could kind of see why Tony would get upset (not defending his tweet). The company has only been around for 3 years and on TV for a little over 2, there have only been 4 world champs. They’ve had POC as tag champs, they had a transgender woman as woman’s champ. Jade Cargill is in a prominent position. I’m sure if New Day came to AEW, one of them will be champ. Yeah, I agree with the general notion that AEW could stand to be more diverse at the top of the card, but I vehemently disagree with the implied notion that the litany of people of color/non-white who have been pushed by AEW, such as Shida, Nyla, Sammy G, Tay, Miro, etc… somehow do not count toward the company’s diversity. I wholly understand why several of those people expressed their disagreement with Swole. That said, as I’ve made clear, TK was way out of line and I do agree with the people who think he probably needs to make a public statement on the matter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 19:21:52 GMT -5
I know he’s tried up in MLW at the moment, but someone needs to sign Calvin Tankman dude is going to be a huge star. Young too, just turned 27 last week.
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Post by eJm on Jan 2, 2022 19:25:51 GMT -5
I know he’s tried up in MLW at the moment, but someone needs to sign Calvin Tankman dude is going to be a huge star. Young too, just turned 27 last week. I mean, likely the reason MLW signed him when they did was because they saw his one GCW performance, knew he was going to have contract offers by everyone and did it before they could think. Which, hey, considering what January 2019 was like, extremely smart on their end.
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Post by neilc on Jan 2, 2022 20:02:23 GMT -5
The want/need for TK to delete is insane. If he has listened like Lio says what’s the use? Is it better to delete history and hide from it or acknowledge it and move on? What does deleting help? Apologizing for the words you said that hurt people, owning it, and removing them is absolutely the thing to do. This isn't about 'deleting history' or hiding what he said, it's about taking down a dumb post that needlessly lashed out at someone critical of him. Because it's not official unless the villagers have totally torched the castle. That's the only way to show true remorse. Or we can think Tony realized he f---ed up and will try to make it better. If not, well, torches still light.
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Post by eJm on Jan 2, 2022 20:13:36 GMT -5
Apologizing for the words you said that hurt people, owning it, and removing them is absolutely the thing to do. This isn't about 'deleting history' or hiding what he said, it's about taking down a dumb post that needlessly lashed out at someone critical of him. Because it's not official unless the villagers have totally torched the castle. That's the only way to show true remorse. Or we can think Tony realized he f---ed up and will try to make it better. If not, well, torches still light. Because that’s what he was saying? Like, it seems pretty simple to me. He made a statement public and for all the tweets from Lio and Shawn about the matter…dude still made the statement. We can’t just go by the words of others. He should be the one to say something about it because at the end of the day, the last word he had on the subject was “I cut this person’s contract because they’re shit” which in itself, according to both Swole and TK, isn’t even true.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 2, 2022 20:16:08 GMT -5
You know, I’m still waiting for a time where we can start evolving this discussion from diversity to representation.
Because that is what WWE is getting right despite themselves, and AEW is definitely failing at despite the diversity of their roster.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 2, 2022 21:00:32 GMT -5
EDIT 2: removed the fake quote
It gets worse. So much worse.
EDIT: quote is fake, use this as an example of checking the sources. Media literacy is important.
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Post by eJm on Jan 2, 2022 21:02:45 GMT -5
I…feel like we need clarification on which podcast before we continue with following up on that. If anyone has the name of it, let us know.
Because keep in mind, there is a very recent history of accounts making up quotes for their own means.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 2, 2022 21:05:43 GMT -5
I…feel like we need clarification on which podcast before we continue with following up on that. If anyone has the name of it, let us know. Because keep in mind, there is a very recent history of accounts making up quotes for their own means. Oh good point. I’ll try to verify this one.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Jan 2, 2022 21:06:59 GMT -5
I deleted my entire twitter account years ago because I felt everything, I had tweeted years before made me look like a cringey manchild at best and a total asshole at worst.
EDIT: Just saying I understand what it's like to want to get over stuff you regret from your past.
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Post by eJm on Jan 2, 2022 21:07:59 GMT -5
I…feel like we need clarification on which podcast before we continue with following up on that. If anyone has the name of it, let us know. Because keep in mind, there is a very recent history of accounts making up quotes for their own means. Oh good point. I’ll try to verify this one. Like, even the quote itself reads as really fishy to me, like as though it’d be written to get people to respond to it. I don’t blame you at all but I’ve seen stuff being accredited to SRS and stuff so I’m just making sure we’re not getting annoyed about nothing.
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Post by eJm on Jan 2, 2022 21:10:21 GMT -5
Let me say again, until someone clarifies which podcast, let’s not be spreading the tweet around.
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Post by r. on Jan 2, 2022 21:11:13 GMT -5
Before I put this thread on ignore, and bear in mind this is whataboutism.
Miss me with Tk being racist. Vince has said the N-word, on-air, has had white guys do blackface, ran an angle where a white performer belittle a black performer in a racist angle, to name a few things and recently brought back a known racist to play pirate dress up.
Tony has foot in mouth disease.
That is all.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 2, 2022 21:12:01 GMT -5
I'm curious what podcast this is from cause that's the only account tweeting about that.... and I cannot find anything about Tony being on a podcast today or yesterday
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jan 2, 2022 21:12:20 GMT -5
Oh good point. I’ll try to verify this one. Like, even the quote itself reads as really fishy to me, like as though it’d be written to get people to respond to it. I don’t blame you at all but I’ve seen stuff being accredited to SRS and stuff so I’m just making sure we’re not getting annoyed about nothing. Good call. Reallllly this is all bull. For so many peoples sake
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 21:14:49 GMT -5
I…feel like we need clarification on which podcast before we continue with following up on that. If anyone has the name of it, let us know. Because keep in mind, there is a very recent history of accounts making up quotes for their own means. That quote sounds about as real as the obviously fake Toni Storm one that’s been floating around, but somehow being believed by tons of people on social media.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 2, 2022 21:17:41 GMT -5
Let me say again, until someone clarifies which podcast, let’s not be spreading the tweet around. so doing research that account is the only one that has said anything yet. It's a small account but it doesn't indicate what podcast and when asked what podcast nothing has been said. Not calling BS there, but Tony doesn't go on just any interviews. And unless someone somehow heard the recording you'd think there'd be more news about this
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 21:18:47 GMT -5
Let me say again, until someone clarifies which podcast, let’s not be spreading the tweet around. so doing research that account is the only one that has said anything yet. It's a small account but it doesn't indicate what podcast and when asked what podcast nothing has been said. Not calling BS there, but Tony doesn't go on just any interviews. And unless someone somehow heard the recording you'd think there'd be more news about this I’m literally calling BS. If that ends up being a real quote, I’ll post a video of myself eating my hat. No one talks like that.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 2, 2022 21:21:12 GMT -5
so doing research that account is the only one that has said anything yet. It's a small account but it doesn't indicate what podcast and when asked what podcast nothing has been said. Not calling BS there, but Tony doesn't go on just any interviews. And unless someone somehow heard the recording you'd think there'd be more news about this I’m literally calling BS. If that ends up being a real quote, I’ll post a video of myself eating my hat. No one talks like that. I just can't believe Tony would go on a podcast on a Sunday when the Jags play and he's doing a bunch of other stuff and he would talk about this and no one else I follow on Twitter would be discussing this. It would literally be the thing everyone was talking about. And yes, I can't imagine a real person talking like that.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 2, 2022 21:25:41 GMT -5
Before I put this thread on ignore, and bear in mind this is whataboutism. Miss me with Tk being racist. Vince has said the N-word, on-air, has had white guys do blackface, ran an angle where a white performer belittle a black performer in a racist angle, to name a few things and recently brought back a known racist to play pirate dress up. Tony has foot in mouth disease. That is all. You’re missing the point of the thread, which is about representation. And is also about professionalism from a promoter. There’s also been no one in this thread saying he’s racist.
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