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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 26, 2022 15:52:15 GMT -5
I'm still annoyed by that (along with a whole host of plotlines left hanging because people couldn't handle TLJ). I was really hoping that the third movie would open with Finn, Rose, and Poe in a big setpiece trying to apprehend DJ on a planet similar to Canto Bight after he sold them out. *Breathe* *breathe* Don't start it....don't start it.....It's just a shitty sequel trilogy of movies in a series of movies with more bad movies than good ones, it isn't worth it......*Breathe* I mean, TLJ had good in it as well as some really stupid stuff. In reality, the material would have worked better as a short series like the ones that they are now doing on D+. That way they could have fully explored the material to the degree that it required in order to make it all make sense. Without that, it wound up being an incredibly rushed, extremely long movie. Either that, or trim it way the f*** down. The whole chase sequence was unnecessary. You can have four set locations: 1) Ahch-To, where Luke, Chewie, Rey, and some dick of a ghost are located. 2) Crait, where Leia and Poe are leading a besieged Resistance base, using lessons learned from Hoth's defense. 3) Snoke's flagship, in orbit over Crait. 4) Finn's mission, but instead of this convoluted search for a hacker he leaves to steal a FO ship that will let him sneak onto Snoke's flagship in a desperate attempt to sabotage it in some dramatic, big boom fashion. The whole Canto Bight sequence is then pared down to a simple raid on a FO outpost to steal a shuttle. You can still hit on the major story marks (ignoring the DJ character entirely), trim the movie down to a more manageable movie with better pacing, and make it make more sense narratively. You might even get better action sequences out of it.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Apr 26, 2022 16:09:09 GMT -5
Speaking of Christopher Nolan Batman. Why no one thought to recuff the Joker after Batman uncuffed him to beat him up in the Dark Knight. Especially since guards shouldn't be in the holding area to watch the criminal
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Apr 26, 2022 18:53:15 GMT -5
*Breathe* *breathe* Don't start it....don't start it.....It's just a shitty sequel trilogy of movies in a series of movies with more bad movies than good ones, it isn't worth it......*Breathe* I mean, TLJ had good in it as well as some really stupid stuff. In reality, the material would have worked better as a short series like the ones that they are now doing on D+. That way they could have fully explored the material to the degree that it required in order to make it all make sense. Without that, it wound up being an incredibly rushed, extremely long movie. Either that, or trim it way the f*** down. The whole chase sequence was unnecessary. You can have four set locations: 1) Ahch-To, where Luke, Chewie, Rey, and some dick of a ghost are located.Bless you.
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Post by cj3 on Apr 26, 2022 18:57:10 GMT -5
Final Destination 5 No I'm not talking about FD3 and the Camera on the Coaster, that is EASILY explained. I'm talking about the ending Putting in spoilers because despite being a 10 year old movie, I know people have fun with this ending but still.... {Spoiler}So the whole point is you can't outrun death and that's fine, but here's what always bugs me
Tom Cruise 2.0 kills Cop Premonition kills TC2
Premonition dude dies about 2 months later
Is this supposed to signal to us that the cop was supposed to die on Flight 180 or something possibly related to that?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 26, 2022 19:04:51 GMT -5
Man, The Dark Knight Rises has aged like rancid goat milk. What a poorly written movie it is. How about why does Bruce Wayne lease his cars? shouldn't trust fund Billionaire playboy doesn't just buy out dealerships for fun... not to mention like... literally every other interaction with money in the movie is like written by someone who has apparently never used it? like they immediately cut the power to the house and water after Bruce loses the stocks... like... were the bills due? was Bruce not paying his bills before hand cause that's the only way they get shut off... not to mention... gee gunmen attacked the stock market... and then suddenly the next day Bruce Wayne mysteriously lost all of his shares? ... like the entire Stock Market wouldn't have closed immediately after an attack... or that like the SEC wouldn't roll everything back after an obvious hacking attempt like that?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 26, 2022 19:09:04 GMT -5
*Breathe* *breathe* Don't start it....don't start it.....It's just a shitty sequel trilogy of movies in a series of movies with more bad movies than good ones, it isn't worth it......*Breathe* I mean, TLJ had good in it as well as some really stupid stuff. In reality, the material would have worked better as a short series like the ones that they are now doing on D+. That way they could have fully explored the material to the degree that it required in order to make it all make sense. Without that, it wound up being an incredibly rushed, extremely long movie. Either that, or trim it way the f*** down. The whole chase sequence was unnecessary. You can have four set locations: 1) Ahch-To, where Luke, Chewie, Rey, and some dick of a ghost are located. 2) Crait, where Leia and Poe are leading a besieged Resistance base, using lessons learned from Hoth's defense. 3) Snoke's flagship, in orbit over Crait. 4) Finn's mission, but instead of this convoluted search for a hacker he leaves to steal a FO ship that will let him sneak onto Snoke's flagship in a desperate attempt to sabotage it in some dramatic, big boom fashion. The whole Canto Bight sequence is then pared down to a simple raid on a FO outpost to steal a shuttle. You can still hit on the major story marks (ignoring the DJ character entirely), trim the movie down to a more manageable movie with better pacing, and make it make more sense narratively. You might even get better action sequences out of it. I've also said... TLJ has some good parts in it... and overall a decent enough movie... it's just absolutely horrible for the middle of a trilogy... it basically cuts all the dangling chords left from Force Awakens... and sorta ends on a note like the end of a series... so like the main conflict being hte Plight of The Raddus would probably work greats as one of the "A Star Wars Story" movies. it also tries to introduce themes and such that... don't work in star wars... like DJ's entire there are no good guys in war! bit... no there's a pretty definitive Good and Bad side in Star wars... since literally being evil physically corrupts your body.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 26, 2022 19:11:22 GMT -5
I remembered this after RotS finished and Padme was dead. In my mind, Leia was talking about Bail Organa's wife, Breha. I don't think Bail and Breha ever told Leia she was adopted, to the best of my knowledge, so she always felt like Breha was her natural mother. It explains why Leia described her as always being sad, but she wasn't sad because of the loss of Anakin, she was sad because, depending on if Bail told her that Leia was Anakin Skywalker's daughter, she knew that either she wasn't her real daughter, or she had to carry the burden that Leia was the daughter of the most deadly man in the galaxy. Either way, it must have been a terrible burden on her. Luke asked about her real mother, clarifying that Leia knew she was adopted. from what I remember even then all she said she knew was feelings... it was meant to be a force thing.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Apr 26, 2022 19:12:24 GMT -5
Not so much a plot hole as lazy writing, but I like how at the end of TDKR the GCPD, who have had at least police training and presumably have plenty of ex-military in their ranks, can't think of a better battle plan than charging straight at a heavily fortified position with very limited armor of their own.
If I recall the League Of Shadows even warns them they're about to open fire, like they feel sorry for these cretins for doing something this stupid.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 26, 2022 19:23:05 GMT -5
How about why does Bruce Wayne lease his cars? shouldn't trust fund Billionaire playboy doesn't just buy out dealerships for fun... not to mention like... literally every other interaction with money in the movie is like written by someone who has apparently never used it? like they immediately cut the power to the house and water after Bruce loses the stocks... like... were the bills due? was Bruce not paying his bills before hand cause that's the only way they get shut off... not to mention... gee gunmen attacked the stock market... and then suddenly the next day Bruce Wayne mysteriously lost all of his shares? ... like the entire Stock Market wouldn't have closed immediately after an attack... or that like the SEC wouldn't roll everything back after an obvious hacking attempt like that? And then there's the ending where Bruce leaves all his crimefighting tech to John Blake/Robin, which will absolutely get him killed given he has zero fight training and doesn't have the resources of a billionaire to keep that shit running.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Apr 26, 2022 19:36:09 GMT -5
How did Tseung and Elena recover from their injuries AND return to Edge in time to save Rufus from that fall? Especially when it was implied Vincent, nor anyone else from Cloud's group didn't have any Materia.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Apr 26, 2022 19:40:11 GMT -5
Man, The Dark Knight Rises has aged like rancid goat milk. What a poorly written movie it is. How about why does Bruce Wayne lease his cars? shouldn't trust fund Billionaire playboy doesn't just buy out dealerships for fun... not to mention like... literally every other interaction with money in the movie is like written by someone who has apparently never used it? like they immediately cut the power to the house and water after Bruce loses the stocks... like... were the bills due? was Bruce not paying his bills before hand cause that's the only way they get shut off... not to mention... gee gunmen attacked the stock market... and then suddenly the next day Bruce Wayne mysteriously lost all of his shares? ... like the entire Stock Market wouldn't have closed immediately after an attack... or that like the SEC wouldn't roll everything back after an obvious hacking attempt like that? Also, how did Bruce get from wherever his prison was to Gotham so damn quickly?
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Post by Feyrhausen on Apr 26, 2022 21:08:14 GMT -5
Speaking of Christopher Nolan Batman. Why no one thought to recuff the Joker after Batman uncuffed him to beat him up in the Dark Knight. Especially since guards shouldn't be in the holding area to watch the criminal Because that cop wanted to kill the Joker. Leaving him uncuffed meant there would be less questions. Jokers goading him made him angry and sloppy, plus he had underestimated Joker.
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Post by bibboid on Apr 26, 2022 21:27:02 GMT -5
In Star Wars IV, the Empire blows up Alderaan. Any moon around that planet would obviously have had its atmosphere ripped away by the blast and then been pummeled into slag by the debris. But later in the movie, they insist on targeting the MOON of Yavin which caused them to waste enough time to be destroyed. They should have just blown up Yavin itself and been done with it.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 26, 2022 21:39:47 GMT -5
In Star Wars IV, the Empire blows up Alderaan. Any moon around that planet would obviously have had its atmosphere ripped away by the blast and then been pummeled into slag by the debris. But later in the movie, they insist on targeting the MOON of Yavin which caused them to waste enough time to be destroyed. They should have just blown up Yavin itself and been done with it. My guess, because Yavin is a gas giant... there's not really any planet to destroy.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Apr 26, 2022 21:47:18 GMT -5
How did Tseung and Elena recover from their injuries AND return to Edge in time to save Rufus from that fall? Especially when it was implied Vincent, nor anyone else from Cloud's group didn't have any Materia. For that matter how were Reno and Rude able to track the leather twits to the Forgotten city and then get back to Edge all in the span of a few hours? That kinda involves traveling across an entire continent and an ocean.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Apr 26, 2022 23:40:52 GMT -5
It's not a movie, but what was the point of the Gagas in the final battle of Gundam 00 when the bad guys could have just mass produced at least a few dozen of the more effective Innovator mobile suits for the same time and resources?
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 27, 2022 0:05:30 GMT -5
It's not a movie, but what was the point of the Gagas in the final battle of Gundam 00 when the bad guys could have just mass produced at least a few dozen of the more effective Innovator mobile suits for the same time and resources? It does seem like a wasteful use of the Bring Stabbity clones. (Yes, for anyone who has not seen Gundam 00, that IS the character's name.)
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 27, 2022 10:30:47 GMT -5
In Star Wars IV, the Empire blows up Alderaan. Any moon around that planet would obviously have had its atmosphere ripped away by the blast and then been pummeled into slag by the debris. But later in the movie, they insist on targeting the MOON of Yavin which caused them to waste enough time to be destroyed. They should have just blown up Yavin itself and been done with it. The Death Star was designed to blow up terrestrial planets. They hadn't tested it on any gas giants and have no way to know whether the mass of Yavin would simply just eat the superlaser, which would have then required them to wait an entire day to recharge the reactors powering it. It's better to simply take the time to go around the planet and blow up the moon. That way you remove the uncertainty of the situation.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 27, 2022 10:46:36 GMT -5
Man, The Dark Knight Rises has aged like rancid goat milk. What a poorly written movie it is. I know that's blasphemy to say because of Ledger, but The Dark Knight is riddled with plot holes. Rewatched it recently and it really kind sucks when you put thought into it
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 27, 2022 10:52:11 GMT -5
In Star Wars IV, the Empire blows up Alderaan. Any moon around that planet would obviously have had its atmosphere ripped away by the blast and then been pummeled into slag by the debris. But later in the movie, they insist on targeting the MOON of Yavin which caused them to waste enough time to be destroyed. They should have just blown up Yavin itself and been done with it. The Death Star was designed to blow up terrestrial planets. They hadn't tested it on any gas giants and have no way to know whether the mass of Yavin would simply just eat the superlaser, which would have then required them to wait an entire day to recharge the reactors powering it. It's better to simply take the time to go around the planet and blow up the moon. That way you remove the uncertainty of the situation. I still like the idea that just putting the Death Star in near orbit of a planet would be catastrophic. Imagine how extreme our tides would be if the moon just randomly moved 90% closer to Earth. The magnetic fields would be all kinds of f'ed up. Likely mass earthquakes from shifting magma. The entire planet would be death and chaos, and that's before even the first person looked up and saw a giant superweapon pointing at them. TLDR: The Death Star would likely destroy a planet simply by parking next to it.
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