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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Jan 12, 2022 23:08:36 GMT -5
Cinematic matches being a semi regular thing was awful and I hated it. They really let it last for like 3 paychecks lmao. I don't know what happened backstage then but they really ran it to the ground in that short amount of time. I know that the intent of them was mainly to take yr mind off the pandemic, but I'll be honest seeing like a whole Darby Allin skate video on PPV with my extremely confused friends was actually a huge reminder that I was in a pandemic. Sting vs. Ricky Starks for real probably would have been decent too thinking about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 23:33:05 GMT -5
They really let it last for like 3 paychecks lmao. I don't know what happened backstage then but they really ran it to the ground in that short amount of time. I know that the intent of them was mainly to take yr mind off the pandemic, but I'll be honest seeing like a whole Darby Allin skate video on PPV with my extremely confused friends was actually a huge reminder that I was in a pandemic. Sting vs. Ricky Starks for real probably would have been decent too thinking about it. Yeah seriously. That Pandemic Era needs to be a case study.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jan 13, 2022 9:24:39 GMT -5
I got one...
Steph's comparison between 9/11 and the steroid trial wasn't THAT bad.
Yeah she could have thought of something better to say, but think about it. Most of this generation hasn't seen anything like the towers being attacked and coming down. And I am sure Steph was afraid when it seemed like her dad would go to prison. So yeah they're two different matters but really, our ideas of deep fear are all different and like I said, we haven't seen anything like that otherwise. (remember when there wasn't a new national or global catastrophe to tie your innards into knots over?)
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jan 13, 2022 10:09:28 GMT -5
I firmly believe turning Austin heel at Mania 17 was the beginning of the end for WWF. Even worse, turning him heel AGAIN at Invasion (no matter how entertaining he was) was the single worst creative decision they've ever made, one from which they've never fully recovered.
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Post by Lille Matthew Goldenberg on Jan 13, 2022 10:57:12 GMT -5
Orange Cassidy and the Best Friends are childish gimmicks and they're starting to be over exposed. Their fans can't handle any criticism of them because any time I've expressed my disdain for them Their fans take it very personally. These people are embarrassing and not funny.
I change the channel any time I see the stupid van.
Also is there any reason Cassidy acts the way he does? Has it ever been explained?
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 13, 2022 11:28:12 GMT -5
Vicki Guerrero being put down weekly as fat and ugly. I hated it then and I hate it now. It's kind of a promotion to sign a widow of a wrestler who died under contract, at a young age. But for AEW's side with Amanda Huber, there's WWE's/Vince McMahon's and Vicki. It was disgusting. I know it made her a TV character and famous but why not just have her in a backstage role or even office role. Why not? Because Vince McMahon that's why. A 60 year old whose emotional growth was stunted in childhood.
But positively, I rooted for Vicki, she was a baby face to me. I've met a few dozen women from WWE/WCW etc...and most were younger but Vicki was the one I was most exited about, she's the one I thought was the most gorgeous and had a great personality. She was a talented actress too, because she got over the nasty character she played while really being a kindly mother.
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Post by Tiiulicious on Jan 13, 2022 11:53:49 GMT -5
- I've never thought Edge was any good and he has a punchable face. Christian was always the star of the team and Edge's matches are dull as shit. - I've never gotten the hype with the Undertaker and doubtful I ever will, especially now that he's gone full Maga. His matches were boring and that entrance put me to sleep. - Matt Riddle shouldn't be on television anywhere and i refuse to watch any program that features that douchecanoe. - New Day vs Usos needs to die a death. It feels like they've wrestled a hundred times already and there's nothing to be excited there. - Bron Breakker does nothing for me, big ole' meh. - WWE hiring Gable Steveson is so disappointing but completely on brand for this morally bankrupt company - I've been a wrestling fan since 2001 but aside from Imperium, this company has nothing going for it that i'd be interested in. Nothing they do is must-see anymore and that's incredibly sad.
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Post by H-Virus on Jan 13, 2022 12:06:13 GMT -5
I would be perfectly fine if every wrestler who has been on TV for 15 or more years all just decided to retire. This includes all the part-timers coming back for just one more match for real this time guys, and the legends who can’t even manage to do that much but still need to be brought in for a quick rating pop. I’ve never had any real love for nostalgia, but WWE’s long time insistence on pushing old stars at the expense of younger guys and just generally using the old stars to try and boost ratings has made things even worse for me. I don’t even care if they can still go in the ring, if I was watching them before I graduated from college, then I’ve seen more than enough of them and don’t need to see them again. Hell, most of these people wore out their welcome with me after 10 years, and don’t even get me started on guys who have been hanging on since the 90s when I was still in elementary school.
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Post by Lille Matthew Goldenberg on Jan 13, 2022 12:17:34 GMT -5
-- WWE hiring Gable Steveson is so disappointing but completely on brand for this morally bankrupt company - How so? Did Gable do something bad?
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jan 13, 2022 12:21:18 GMT -5
I know it's petty but I can't take Kevin Owens seriously as a main eventer because of his look. It's not a weight thing because Vader, Yokozuna, Samoa Joe and many others looked like main eventers but Owens with the cheap looking shirt and basketball shorts literally looks like someone I could see in my local fed wrestling in front of 40 people.
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Post by Tiiulicious on Jan 13, 2022 12:23:11 GMT -5
-- WWE hiring Gable Steveson is so disappointing but completely on brand for this morally bankrupt company - How so? Did Gable do something bad? LinkThe only reason he wasn't charged was because the law in Minnesota is frankly shocking. A person who is sexually assaulted while intoxicated isn't considered "mentally incapacitated" if he or she consumed alcohol or drugs voluntarily. This is why victims of sexual assault rarely come forward. They aren't believed and the law protects the perpetrator and his life remains unaffected. Trash.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 13, 2022 12:26:19 GMT -5
How so? Did Gable do something bad? LinkThe only reason he wasn't charged was because the law in Minnesota is frankly shocking. A person who is sexually assaulted while intoxicated isn't considered "mentally incapacitated" if he or she consumed alcohol or drugs voluntarily. This is why victims of sexual assault rarely come forward. They aren't believed and the law protects the perpetrator and his life remains unaffected. Trash. TBH, if fans don't want Marty Scurll in the industry, this guy shouldn't be here either.
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Post by Tiiulicious on Jan 13, 2022 12:32:34 GMT -5
TBH, if fans don't want Marty Scurll in the industry, this guy shouldn't be here either. I have no interest in watching Steveson do anything because it's obvious something happened. Sadly, if she would've tweeted out what they did to her, he might've faced a little justice but the police aren't interested and the reputation of school jocks is more important. WWE hiring him after all of this was in the open is legit so stomach-churning and disgusting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2022 12:42:28 GMT -5
I know it's petty but I can't take Kevin Owens seriously as a main eventer because of his look. It's not a weight thing because Vader, Yokozuna, Samoa Joe and many others looked like main eventers but Owens with the cheap looking shirt and basketball shorts literally looks like someone I could see in my local fed wrestling in front of 40 people. I think KO's been entertaining lately, but he really should change something up about his look. He's looked the same forever.
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Post by ToyfareMark on Jan 13, 2022 15:36:50 GMT -5
The word legend is used so much in WWE, and pro wrestling in general that it has lost its meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2022 15:50:53 GMT -5
I firmly believe turning Austin heel at Mania 17 was the beginning of the end for WWF. Even worse, turning him heel AGAIN at Invasion (no matter how entertaining he was) was the single worst creative decision they've ever made, one from which they've never fully recovered. Not only that, but it was terrible timing. Rock was leaving for Hollywood, Triple H and Benoit got injured, and Undertaker was putting on some of his worst matches. So no one to really fill the void of top babyface. They halfheartedly pushed Angle in the top role, but because Angle's character was so radically goofy beforehand, I doubt many people were going to get behind it. Jericho spent so long being jerked around that I think a lot of people had given up on him as well, although he was arguably their second biggest babyface the year prior. Lastly, they absolutely refused to pull the trigger on RVD when the audience was clearly behind him. So Austin doubling down on staying heel? Yeah, it was not good for business. I don't think it changes the outcome of the Monday Night Wars, but it's fortunate for WWF that they didn't have an alternative once this debacle went down.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2022 15:53:12 GMT -5
I know it's petty but I can't take Kevin Owens seriously as a main eventer because of his look. It's not a weight thing because Vader, Yokozuna, Samoa Joe and many others looked like main eventers but Owens with the cheap looking shirt and basketball shorts literally looks like someone I could see in my local fed wrestling in front of 40 people. I think KO's been entertaining lately, but he really should change something up about his look. He's looked the same forever. See also: Kingston, Eddie
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Post by FinalGwen on Jan 13, 2022 15:58:32 GMT -5
I call bullshit on that. Roman makes a cameo in a Fast and the Furious movie and there are a good dozen youtube videos with other a million views for that. Roman's social media accounts all have millions of followers. Love Hacksaw but there's no way he had comparable fame in the 80's. Hacksaw never appeared in a movie that grossed 760 million dollars. It's all apples and oranges. Nobody saw Hobbs and Shaw for Roman Reigns. People saw that because it was in the Fast and Furious "universe" and for the Rock and Jason Statham. Everybody knew who Hacksaw Jim Duggan was in the 80s. If you want into Times Square and asked people about Roman Reigns and Kenny Omega... I bet 50% AT BEST know who either are.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jan 13, 2022 15:59:33 GMT -5
I firmly believe turning Austin heel at Mania 17 was the beginning of the end for WWF. Even worse, turning him heel AGAIN at Invasion (no matter how entertaining he was) was the single worst creative decision they've ever made, one from which they've never fully recovered. Following that with turning him right back to the old "Stone Cold" the night after Survivor Series 2001
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Post by karl100589 on Jan 13, 2022 17:07:05 GMT -5
I despise ref bumps. I know wrestling is a show but the idea a push can put a ref out for five minutes bothers me.
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