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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 30, 2022 12:57:52 GMT -5
Also Finn. They lost faith in this guy real quick. Finn’s in Ireland. He wasn’t at the show. Damn. So does that mean they sent him off the road instead of being in catering? If creative has nothing for Finn and sent him home. Just release the man...
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Post by eJm on Jan 30, 2022 12:59:52 GMT -5
Finn’s in Ireland. He wasn’t at the show. Damn. So does that mean they sent him off the road instead of being in catering? If creative has nothing for Finn and sent him home. Just release the man... Eh, he might have asked for a break or something. If he’s not back in, like, a couple of weeks, we’ll have a bit more right to be concerned.
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Post by eJm on Jan 30, 2022 13:00:16 GMT -5
I mean, he technically has more right to a rematch than Brock does since at least he won by DQ rather than lose so he wouldn’t need to have it. Don’t you use logic at me in a WWE storyline! I know, I’m sorry. Won’t happen again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2022 13:08:09 GMT -5
The fact that Io Shirai was there and was NOT used, is a travesty. I have been of so many mindsets within the last few hours trying to rationalize why in gawds name they refuse to use Io on the main roster. Is it because maybe they actually want to do something more with her instead of just being nothing fodder in a rumble? maybe Maybe they want to debut her in better more important way Or maybe they are complete f***ing idiots and are gonna stupidly let the best womens wrestler walk right into their competitions arms and immediately bolster their womens division into being the best one in NA. Like it is absoloutley maddening at this point that she was as gawd damn alternative but somehow made room for completely useless people like Cameron.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 30, 2022 13:12:43 GMT -5
The fact that Io Shirai was there and was NOT used, is a travesty. I have been of so many mindsets within the last few hours trying to rationalize why in gawds name they refuse to use Io on the main roster. Is it because maybe they actually want to do something more with her instead of just being nothing fodder in a rumble? maybe Maybe they want to debut her in better more important way Or maybe they are complete f***ing idiots and are gonna stupidly let the best womens wrestler walk right into their competitions arms and immediately bolster their womens division into being the best one in NA. Like it is absoloutley maddening at this point that she was as gawd damn alternative but somehow made room for completely useless people like Cameron. My guess is they don’t value her that highly. Maybe that’ll change if she actually gets a chance to work on the main roster, and she’ll impress them with her work.
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Post by Fade on Jan 30, 2022 13:16:09 GMT -5
Check out who was at the show tonight... Earnings report this week..was probably pondering who all he could release to pay for Rondas contract. Dude gives me the heebie-est-of-jeebies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2022 13:16:49 GMT -5
I have been of so many mindsets within the last few hours trying to rationalize why in gawds name they refuse to use Io on the main roster. Is it because maybe they actually want to do something more with her instead of just being nothing fodder in a rumble? maybe Maybe they want to debut her in better more important way Or maybe they are complete f***ing idiots and are gonna stupidly let the best womens wrestler walk right into their competitions arms and immediately bolster their womens division into being the best one in NA. Like it is absoloutley maddening at this point that she was as gawd damn alternative but somehow made room for completely useless people like Cameron. My guess is they don’t value her that highly. Maybe that’ll change if she actually gets a chance to work on the main roster, and she’ll impress them with her work. I would say her dark match should have already opened their eyes alot of people gave it high praise and the footage shows she was already highly over with the crowd. But this is WWE so they will excuse it as a complete one off smark crowd response or something.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 30, 2022 13:35:41 GMT -5
I think they brought in Aksana too and didn’t use her. I feel like she’d have gotten a pop. Pretty much everyone did in the women’s match. Then again, who do you take out? Viking Logan?
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jan 30, 2022 14:17:03 GMT -5
They could not possibly have telegraphed Lesnar winning any more clearly if they had tried.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 30, 2022 14:34:48 GMT -5
It was the same thing in the first Women's Rumble in 2018, where she ended up getting 5 eliminations...more than anyone else that night, female or male. Michelle was kind of the Charlotte of the late 2000s. But when she’s there she doesn’t really feel like a big deal. They tried their damndest to get people to care about Michelle... and nobody ever really did. So bringing her back and making her a big deal totally tracks say what you will about her ability but Kelly was at least always pretty massively over.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 30, 2022 14:42:38 GMT -5
WWE makes the most money and gets the biggest ratings and has the most cultural spread and its crowds are the quietest and don't act like any other wrestling crowd out there. There's something structurally wrong with that. They're in the middle of paying for years of accumulated problems and they're still plugging away at those problems as the only desperate band-aids they can think of because Vince has been creatively spent since somewhere in the Cena years. No other company would have people sitting on their hands for such a broad portion of their roster, and it's not about what type of fan is what or how indie fans pop for anything. WWE should be able to get its fans to pop for things on its programming just as easily as any other promotion does for most of their roster. The fact they don't is a WWE problem that is WWE's fault. I've said the following before and I'll say it again. First off, "mainstream fans" don't really exist, because the mainstream no longer exists, and trying to chase the mythical casual fan that might stop on the channel for five seconds is foolish if you're doing it at the expense of the people that are ACTUALLY WATCHING THE SHOW... especially since most people aren't flipping channels any more and are DVRing like everything. Secondly, professional wrestling is f***ing easy. Have two characters with opposing characteristics fight each other. You really don't need any more than that. Cena vs. Roman for instance rather than terrible shooty shoot comments about ratings and audience sales that no one could possibly care about and more importantly can't be f***ing solved with a wrestling match. Maybe base it around oh ... John Cena's like entire deal being Hardwork and good sportsmanship and Roman being an entitled asshole that will go to any lengths to get "respect" even grievously injure his own cousins... the story KINDA writes its f***ing self.
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Post by mistery on Jan 30, 2022 14:53:56 GMT -5
Piecing together what all of the sites have reported over the past 12 hours or so, the following direction can be assumed for Mania for all of the women's stuff: {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} - Charlotte vs Ronda
- Becky vs Bianca
- The Bella Twins vs Carmella and Zelina
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Post by mo on Jan 30, 2022 15:05:30 GMT -5
Definitely some 1995 Rumble vibes with that men’s match. To think over the past few years before AEW and the pandemic they’ve been praised for having such a great roster.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2022 15:17:02 GMT -5
Just from seeing gifs, Knoxville threw a better below than most wrestlers.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 30, 2022 15:20:09 GMT -5
The whole debate about chasing the mainstream and the mythical casual fan is weird as hell. WWE's Raw and AEW's Dynamite are regularly among the highest rated shows (if not THE highest rated shows when Monday Night Football isn't an issue) on their nights on all cable. Smackdown does really well for a Friday Night network show. Even AEW Rampage does well for what's been traditionally considered the Death Slot. Are they NFL popular? No, but no one else really is outside of event television like The Masked Singer or The Voice or whathaveyou.
They're already mainstream. The only wrestling show between the two promotions that does poorly is NXT. I'd say it was by design, but it's meant to reach a younger audience and it's most popular among the 50+ crowd and has an older median viewing age than any other WWE show, so it really isn't.
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Post by Legion on Jan 30, 2022 15:23:16 GMT -5
Allegedly WWE wanted to do something with Dom eliminating Rey, to set up a WM match, but Rey outright refused
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Post by 06vwgti on Jan 30, 2022 15:25:34 GMT -5
Allegedly WWE wanted to do something with Dom eliminating Rey, to set up a WM match, but Rey outright refused Rey is starting to come off like a helicopter parent with regards to Dominic
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Post by eJm on Jan 30, 2022 15:25:43 GMT -5
The whole debate about chasing the mainstream and the mythical casual fan is weird as hell. WWE's Raw and AEW's Dynamite are regularly among the highest rated shows (if not THE highest rated shows when Monday Night Football isn't an issue) on their nights on all cable. Smackdown does really well for a Friday Night network show. Even AEW Rampage does well for what's been traditionally considered the Death Slot. Are they NFL popular? No, but no one else really is outside of event television like The Masked Singer or The Voice or whathaveyou. They're already mainstream. It also comes off like people just aren’t aware of where TV is right now. Even ignoring the “cable is dying” stuff, there’s so much out there that people are watching or doing that the aim really can’t be “let’s get as many people watching” because you’re not going to get the people who want to watch Twitch streams or bindge watch shows or watch Sidemen videos on YouTube because they’ve been catered to. If a celebrity comes on, people are going to see the celebrity and tune out afterwards since most of them aren’t going to watch wrestling and that’s fine. The issue comes in keeping that audience and getting them to spend money and coming to shows because that’s a much bigger barometer of success than TV ratings would ever be. Along with how the atmosphere is at a show because if you have a full house but nobody cares about anyone…that can affect everything else. Why buy merch for, say, Damian Priest when the audience right now doesn’t care for him, for example?
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Post by eJm on Jan 30, 2022 15:26:45 GMT -5
Allegedly WWE wanted to do something with Dom eliminating Rey, to set up a WM match, but Rey outright refused Rey is starting to come off like a helicopter parent with regards to Dominic Also if that’s true…why did they spend weeks teasing that? It’s a bit hard to believe when you’ve spent the last couple of weeks implying Dom was going to eliminate his Dad if he had the chance to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2022 15:31:16 GMT -5
Allegedly WWE wanted to do something with Dom eliminating Rey, to set up a WM match, but Rey outright refused Given WWE’s recent tendency to leak “rumors” to the media to make themselves look better in situations that have received fan backlash, I don’t even believe that for a zeptosecond. Why make so many allusions to something that Rey had made clear he wasn’t going to do?
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