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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Feb 17, 2022 20:20:14 GMT -5
Sometimes, people just don't watch TV. I'm so tired of ratings talk in general. Ugh.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 17, 2022 20:24:14 GMT -5
Sometimes, people just don't watch TV. I'm so tired of ratings talk in general. Ugh. Honestly? Same. I'm so tired of when a low week hits, the same drums being banged only for them to go silent when an immediate rebound happens A ton of AEW viewers watch later or DVR. Consumers attention spans these days are hard to keep, and the fact the floor for AEW is still a top 3 placement, is absolutely nothing to worry about or be bothered by. These weeks happen to all shows, but even then, while the overall number was lower than normal, still top 3, so I doubt Warner cares.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Feb 17, 2022 20:35:50 GMT -5
Sometimes, people just don't watch TV. I'm so tired of ratings talk in general. Ugh. Honestly? Same. I'm so tired of when a low week hits, the same drums being banged only for them to go silent when an immediate rebound happens A ton of AEW viewers watch later or DVR. Consumers attention spans these days are hard to keep, and the fact the floor for AEW is still a top 3 placement, is absolutely nothing to worry about or be bothered by. These weeks happen to all shows, but even then, while the overall number was lower than normal, still top 3, so I doubt Warner cares. I had started to make a similar point about DVR in the 'next level' thread. Just in my friends group, I'd say half of us watch it on DVR the next day due to work, life, etc. They're FINE
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Post by raymondo316 on Feb 17, 2022 20:44:52 GMT -5
At least Mox streak of gaining viewers continues
Seems Brandon made a mistake with the first screenshot, Mox caused a bigger increase.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 17, 2022 21:02:02 GMT -5
Sometimes, people just don't watch TV. I'm so tired of ratings talk in general. Ugh. ... Then why check a ratings thread?
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Post by cjh on Feb 17, 2022 21:04:20 GMT -5
Honestly? Same. I'm so tired of when a low week hits, the same drums being banged only for them to go silent when an immediate rebound happens A ton of AEW viewers watch later or DVR. Consumers attention spans these days are hard to keep, and the fact the floor for AEW is still a top 3 placement, is absolutely nothing to worry about or be bothered by. These weeks happen to all shows, but even then, while the overall number was lower than normal, still top 3, so I doubt Warner cares. I had started to make a similar point about DVR in the 'next level' thread. Just in my friends group, I'd say half of us watch it on DVR the next day due to work, life, etc. They're FINE It's important to note, though, that WWE and AEW are getting their rights fees on the promise that wrestling fans watch live like sports fans do. If someone is watching Raw or Dynamite on DVR and is getting through the show quickly by skipping the commercials and certain segments, that's like not watching at all to USA/TNT.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Feb 17, 2022 21:13:29 GMT -5
Sometimes, people just don't watch TV. I'm so tired of ratings talk in general. Ugh. ... Then why check a ratings thread?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2022 21:24:48 GMT -5
Both the Olympics and Knicks/Nets did well but, not enough to cause this kind of a drop. Still 3rd so, no panic needed. I feel like we here, and on the rest of the aew communities forums and subs, are always trying to blame something else besides what has become a back and forth plateaued situation with AEW. They will eventually get over the hump but people will look for any reason at this point to justify why others do not watch what they like. On the other hand aew fans have to deal with the sky is falling from outsiders and their own fanbase as well so it's all crazy. I would assume gauging the ratings in a more open window besides week to week shows that it's been pretty consistent.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 17, 2022 21:34:47 GMT -5
Mox and Punk are still a pretty big ratings draw. No surprise there, to be honest.
Lower than usual numbers for Darby.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 17, 2022 21:37:08 GMT -5
I had started to make a similar point about DVR in the 'next level' thread. Just in my friends group, I'd say half of us watch it on DVR the next day due to work, life, etc. They're FINE It's important to note, though, that WWE and AEW are getting their right fees on the promise that wrestling fans watch live like sports fans do. If someone is watching Raw or Dynamite on DVR and is getting though the show quickly by skipping the commercials and certain segments, that's like not watching at all to USA/TNT. Ok, their live viewership on what is considered their floor scored 3rd on the night in cable There really, in my eyes, isn't much of an issue here when cable as a whole was pretty much down this week due to Olympics and such
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 17, 2022 21:40:08 GMT -5
Both the Olympics and Knicks/Nets did well but, not enough to cause this kind of a drop. Still 3rd so, no panic needed. I feel like we here, and on the rest of the aew communities forums and subs, are always trying to blame something else besides what has become a back and forth plateaued situation with AEW. They will eventually get over the hump but people will look for any reason at this point to justify why others do not watch what they like. On the other hand aew fans have to deal with the sky is falling from outsiders and their own fanbase as well so it's all crazy. I would assume gauging the ratings in a more open window besides week to week shows that it's been pretty consistent. It's really dependant on a few factors, and what's on cable and digging into the demo matters. The Olympics take live viewers, as to other shows premiering right now like South Park which have very high key demo that competes with AEW. Big Bang Theory also matters for a lead in, and their numbers were low this week compared to other weeks, and the NBA does matter, and a historic comeback absolutely mattered in some way I have to imagine. Cable as a whole took a hit this week given AEW still placed third overall on a lower end number. No one here is looking for reasons to justify it, they're looking at legitimate things which can cause the drop, like RAW and NXT moving Networks, or other shows cutting into RAW's demo when they are on. The only show that never seems to take a hit on normal hours is Smackdown, bulletproof on FOX always at 2 million.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 17, 2022 23:54:43 GMT -5
At least Mox streak of gaining viewers continues
The show just didn't start at the usual point it normally does. The NBA/Olympics/South Park are absolutely playing a role here. It is what it is and there will be some lesser weeks. This was more than likely a week people didn't think they NEEDED to watch live as opposed to last week which had a ton of big time matches that delivered, including a deathmatch main event. But it was still 3rd in cable... on a floor week, that's great. It happens, and I'm sure people will try and spin narratives, but if and when the number goes back up as it usually does next week, people will then go silent, yet again. I am shocked Sammy/Darby didn't gain viewers though, Darby draws a lot of the time, people must have just figured Sammy wasn't dropping the belt this soon a second time. Jericho and Mox bumped it up though. People like discussing ratings when they fluctuate, no reason to say there has to be a “narrative” being spun. Obviously when a rating is steady, there’s less to talk about. That’s why a Smackdown ratings thread is typically a post or two.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 17, 2022 23:58:36 GMT -5
The show just didn't start at the usual point it normally does. The NBA/Olympics/South Park are absolutely playing a role here. It is what it is and there will be some lesser weeks. This was more than likely a week people didn't think they NEEDED to watch live as opposed to last week which had a ton of big time matches that delivered, including a deathmatch main event. But it was still 3rd in cable... on a floor week, that's great. It happens, and I'm sure people will try and spin narratives, but if and when the number goes back up as it usually does next week, people will then go silent, yet again. I am shocked Sammy/Darby didn't gain viewers though, Darby draws a lot of the time, people must have just figured Sammy wasn't dropping the belt this soon a second time. Jericho and Mox bumped it up though. People like discussing ratings when they fluctuate, no reason to say there has to be a “narrative” being spun. Obviously when a rating is steady, there’s less to talk about. That’s why a Smackdown ratings thread is typically a post or two. Let me clarify, the narrative being spun is "Cody not being there tanked the rating" by some weirdos, wasn't saying those people were necessarily here, just something I saw and commented on, and of course that's not inherently true
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Post by clifford on Feb 18, 2022 4:12:42 GMT -5
Sometimes, people just don't watch TV. I'm so tired of ratings talk in general. Ugh. ... Then why check a ratings thread? Personally, don't think there's anything wrong with posting the ratings and demo breakdowns. It's real interesting. The broken discourse is the bullshit with all this. You can copy and paste 90% of responses in any week's thread depending on if the rating's under or over a million.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 18, 2022 5:02:02 GMT -5
That was the opener and it got the strongest viewership numbers and second strongest demo. Which the opener does virtually every single weak and it was a lot weaker of an opener than usual. Big Bang Theory had its lowest lead in since AEW joined, so peoples attentions were now on TBS as much as usual, more than likely due to other things on TV, I can't blame this on MJF/Punk at all. Sometimes, people just don't watch TV. I'm so tired of ratings talk in general. Ugh. ... Then why check a ratings thread? People like seeing the numbers week to week, it's interesting analysis. I assume people just tire of the same ad nauseum takes about what's wrong with AEW whenever the ratings go lower, and also try and dismiss comments about other shows and things on cable being a factor on that day contributing to the number just as much, because it has to be an issue with the program and can't actually be an issue with how audiences were spread around that day more so than last week. There are also random variables, and plenty of people don't watch live every single week, I can see why some posters would start eye rolling at people who want to find an issue (Or make whole separate threads about it) or try and solve a problem that suddenly disappears when the rating rebounds and reappears if it ever dips too low again. It was a weaker number than most weeks, on a weaker week of cable all around since AEW still placed third overall, this stuff matters in discussion and it feels like in some cases, they just get ignored, and that's gonna annoy people imo.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 18, 2022 5:57:25 GMT -5
It's important to note - three pages in, and there are zero posts predicting doom for AEW or making any kind of negative hot take.
This shit is beyond ridiculous at this point.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 18, 2022 11:00:44 GMT -5
It's important to note - three pages in, and there are zero posts predicting doom for AEW or making any kind of negative hot take. This shit is beyond ridiculous at this point. Yeah it seems some posts are made arguing against a strawman. No one is predicting the downfall of AEW, just discussing the ebbs and flows of the numbers.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 18, 2022 11:42:41 GMT -5
Mox and Punk are still a pretty big ratings draw. No surprise there, to be honest. Lower than usual numbers for Darby. The match was kind of just thrown together, and I don’t think many people thought Darby was going to win. That might have had something to do with it?
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Post by sushiburrito on Feb 18, 2022 14:02:25 GMT -5
IDK, blaming Big Bang Theory for how many viewers it brought to the table seems funny to me. It's big bang theory every week. That shouldn't cause that much of a fluctuation. And if it's not Big Bang theory it's South Park and if it's not that it's basketball.
Not saying it's doom and gloom etc. Just sometimes ratings are going to go down. It happens.
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Post by eJm on Feb 18, 2022 14:13:33 GMT -5
IDK, blaming Big Bang Theory for how many viewers it brought to the table seems funny to me. It's big bang theory every week. That shouldn't cause that much of a fluctuation. And if it's not Big Bang theory it's South Park and if it's not that it's basketball. Not saying it's doom and gloom etc. Just sometimes ratings are going to go down. It happens. Basically, it’s been said before (over and over and over again), one of the worst things the Monday Night Wars did was make wrestling fans obsessed with ratings and getting the number as high as possible week by week (mostly because wrestling didn’t have to worry about demos at the time so that was the real victory for either side) and as a result, these discussions are trying to put a thing to ratings that this is why people didn’t tune or this didn’t or that which to an extent is fine but also it gets all silly at times with some going gun Ho on “THIS IS TERRIBLE, THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING NOW!” (It hasn’t happened here but I’ve seen it in other threads) or unnecessary defending from those people or in general when in that circumstance, it was just a number. Now, if it’s a consistent thing or something of that line (Raw’s drop over the past decade, Impact unable to break past 1.2, Nitro getting its ass kicked and having no solution) that’s different and it could be something to start it off here or it could be nothing. Nobody really knows. Also, both Raw and Dynamite are likely doing better than average because we never really see the +2 or +7 DVR numbers which by all accounts, they’re both doing well in. It’s just the question of how to get people watching right now to get the advertisers happy since, well, that’s what they want.
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