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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 20, 2022 14:08:33 GMT -5
To clarify, Keith looks just fine to wrestle right now? Did he look like he could have a 25 minute high quality PPV main event right now? I don't think so and that's fine. That's not his role right now. But he's been in better shape and now that's back and I working, I'm sure he'll get there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2022 14:23:41 GMT -5
Am I alone in thinking he looks fine? Based on the responses you'd think he looks like 1996 Yokozuna, when at worst it's nothing a few gym sessions couldn't fix. Not at all. I was just thinking about how the “fat guy” wrestler that I loved growing up doesn’t really exist in wrestling anymore. From essentially the inception of pro wrestling there was always a Happy Humphrey, or a Haystacks Calhoun, or the Maguire Twins. Through the 80s and 90s there was always an Abdullah the Butcher, or Yokozuna, or PN News, or Mabel/Viscera, all of Mike Shaw’s characters, Earthquake/Typhoon, etc… That doesn’t really exist anymore, so a guy like Keith Lee who is like NFL lineman athletic, is portrayed as being, like, morbidly obese. Sure the guy maybe could stand to lose a few pounds, but he’s obviously still very athletic and his match against Isaiah Kassidy was good. He just stands out in a modern wrestling world where even a guy like Adam Cole draws criticism for being “pudgy.”
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Feb 20, 2022 14:25:55 GMT -5
Am I alone in thinking he looks fine? Based on the responses you'd think he looks like 1996 Yokozuna, when at worst it's nothing a few gym sessions couldn't fix. I think most people who say he should drop some weight mean drop the excess weight since his NXT days. Like, he’s obviously not Haystacks Calhoun but he’s noticeably a bit heavier and given his recent health issues, it would probably be good for him health and work wise to get back down to his usual weight. No one’s saying he should go down to 245 lbs, just back to the “Brock says BIG BOY!” size. And the “He could keel over at any second and crush his opponent to death under him” assholes are assholes to be ignored.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 20, 2022 14:42:56 GMT -5
Keith Lee is the size he was before WWE signed him, he lost some weight in NXT. Makes sense though since you're at the PC everyday and they have a billion people managing you.
But he's literally the size he was before WWE now, Keith is a big man always has been.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Feb 20, 2022 14:48:02 GMT -5
I’m Keith Lees only friend
Man what a sanctimonious wheezebag
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Post by Chiral on Feb 20, 2022 14:49:13 GMT -5
"I am his only friend because I’m not enabling him" isn't what you say as a journalist, it's what you put in an overwrought Facebook post when you're 22 and you're having a falling out with someone you hung with in college It sounds like something in one of Corey Graves' late night Twitter posts talking about how CM Punk isn't a true punk for not responding to his texts or whatever.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 20, 2022 14:54:34 GMT -5
Remember when Keller and the Torch were considered one of the more reliable of the dirtsheets?
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Post by thegatewaydrug on Feb 20, 2022 15:01:23 GMT -5
I’m Keith Lees only friend Man what a sanctimonious wheezebag "My friend Keith is not hard to deal with. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot and hard to deal with...but he is NOT a porn star."
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Post by Chiral on Feb 20, 2022 15:02:01 GMT -5
The energy of having the line "I am his only friend" in a report like this
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 20, 2022 15:46:03 GMT -5
Keith Lee is the size he was before WWE signed him, he lost some weight in NXT. Makes sense though since you're at the PC everyday and they have a billion people managing you. But he's literally the size he was before WWE now, Keith is a big man always has been. He looks noticeably larger from his Evolve days to me. viewsfromthehawkesnest.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/leee.png
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Post by Dub H on Feb 20, 2022 15:58:40 GMT -5
Keith Lee is the size he was before WWE signed him, he lost some weight in NXT. Makes sense though since you're at the PC everyday and they have a billion people managing you. But he's literally the size he was before WWE now, Keith is a big man always has been. He looks noticeably larger from his Evolve days to me. viewsfromthehawkesnest.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/leee.pngIs Darby proposing to keith there?
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Post by Mecca on Feb 20, 2022 16:43:14 GMT -5
To add to this, Bixenspan is 100% convinced the source that fed Keller all of that is Terry Taylor.
A "friend."
Who's seemingly WWE office.
And a Torch source.
And is going out of their way to cut down a Black wrestler for nebulous reasons.
Hmm.
Nah, can't be...
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Post by 06vwgti on Feb 20, 2022 16:48:17 GMT -5
To add to this, Bixenspan is 100% convinced the source that fed Keller all of that is Terry Taylor. A "friend." Who's seemingly WWE office. And a Torch source. And is going out of their way to cut down a Black wrestler for nebulous reasons. Hmm. Nah, can't be... Was he known to cut down other black wrestlers before?
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Post by Mecca on Feb 20, 2022 16:51:12 GMT -5
To add to this, Bixenspan is 100% convinced the source that fed Keller all of that is Terry Taylor. A "friend." Who's seemingly WWE office. And a Torch source. And is going out of their way to cut down a Black wrestler for nebulous reasons. Hmm. Nah, can't be... Was he known to cut down other black wrestlers before? The things I know about him are Lots of people think he's a stooge. Stevie Ray called him the most racist person in WCW According to the 2000 lawsuit against WCW, Taylor remarked that white wrestlers were better than black ones (Vince Russo also agreed with him)
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 20, 2022 17:05:46 GMT -5
Keith Lee is the size he was before WWE signed him, he lost some weight in NXT. Makes sense though since you're at the PC everyday and they have a billion people managing you. But he's literally the size he was before WWE now, Keith is a big man always has been. He looks noticeably larger from his Evolve days to me. viewsfromthehawkesnest.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/leee.pngMaybe a little bit. Legit question: what's your point? Is it that he can't wrestle for very long at a time, or he's a danger to his opponents? Because that seems to be the point Keller's making that you're defending, but the evidence doesn't lead to the conclusion.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 20, 2022 17:21:36 GMT -5
To add to this, Bixenspan is 100% convinced the source that fed Keller all of that is Terry Taylor. A "friend." Who's seemingly WWE office. And a Torch source. And is going out of their way to cut down a Black wrestler for nebulous reasons. Hmm. Nah, can't be... "It's not Vince McMahon's fault, citation: trust me, dude" definitely gives that vibe; nothing really substantial or implying there's like, clashes with wrestlers, just affirming over and over that because of unspecified things and 'his actions' that Vince no longer wanted to push him. Y'know, famously reasonable sane person Vince McMahon, who has never dropped someone for irrational reasons before, and who runs WWE, a company that now only cuts people when things don't work out and not for any mass budgetary shitf***ery. But god taken on its whole is such a rambling mess of vagueness and weirdly cloying attempts to come off like the reality check mature friend. Like, this passage right here? "If everything is always someone else’s fault, and there’s no personal responsibility when it comes to the reality, fair or unfair, of what WWE wants from the wrestlers that they spend every week with dealing all the producers, all the fellow wrestlers, they’re at a point where it isn’t about creating the best roster and the best product. They don’t have a financial incentive.” This is gibbering nonsense. This is the kind of thing where you should do another take because of how f***ing bad it is as a sentence.
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Feb 20, 2022 17:28:00 GMT -5
It seems like if you go from WWE to AEW, suddenly your body becomes an issue. Between the body shaming of Adam Cole and Keith Lee, I would worry about anyone who has body dysmorphia really taking it to heart.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2022 17:28:11 GMT -5
Not that I really buy the story, but we're all gonna start checking Lee for "I'm losing" face like we do with Sasha, aren't we?
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Post by Mid-Carder on Feb 20, 2022 17:30:15 GMT -5
I keep reading the title of the thread like a Keith Lee Charlie Brown movie.
It's the Easter Beagle, Keith Lee You're A Good Sport, Keith Lee Life Is A Circus, Keith Lee Bon Voyage, Keith Lee (And Don't Come Back) Wade Keller's At It Again, Keith Lee
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 20, 2022 18:05:23 GMT -5
Maybe a little bit. Legit question: what's your point? Is it that he can't wrestle for very long at a time, or he's a danger to his opponents? Because that seems to be the point Keller's making that you're defending, but the evidence doesn't lead to the conclusion. Where have I said he’s a danger to his opponent? I was just replying to the statement that he’s the same as he looked pre-WWE.
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