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Post by chazraps on Jul 10, 2022 13:15:31 GMT -5
idk some people just seem to lack critical thinking skills. Woke King Bagwell was so obviously fake that i can't feel bad for anyone getting scammed. Download a brain workout game imo No, let's stop this right here. The first three months of Buff's Twitter were as verifiably legit as anyone's out there. There would be videos of him at conventions the day of, he'd respond to people and talk to them about things said on Twitter, and those first three months people were sent what they paid for. Did Buff manually type those tweets? No, but I promise you soooooo many of your favorites don't either. They have a team or a single person who runs the account, but first shows the person what's going out there and then they get the OK to post it. Social media strategies is an entire industry. There was as much proof that Buff ran the account as there has been for absolutely any account on social media. What happened would be no different if any other verifiable place online all of a sudden stopped sending out product and began just keeping money. The sudden stop is the scam.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Jul 10, 2022 13:28:35 GMT -5
idk some people just seem to lack critical thinking skills. Woke King Bagwell was so obviously fake that i can't feel bad for anyone getting scammed. Download a brain workout game imo No, let's stop this right here. The first three months of Buff's Twitter were as verifiably legit as anyone's out there. There would be videos of him at conventions the day of, he'd respond to people and talk to them about things said on Twitter, and those first three months people were sent what they paid for. Did Buff manually type those tweets? No, but I promise you soooooo many of your favorites don't either. They have a team or a single person who runs the account, but first shows the person what's going out there and then they get the OK to post it. Social media strategies is an entire industry. There was as much proof that Buff ran the account as there has been for absolutely any account on social media. What happened would be no different if any other verifiable place online all of a sudden stopped sending out product and began just keeping money. The sudden stop is the scam. Now y'see chief, what I said was that Bagwell was fake. I didn't pass comment on the Twitter account, although if you think Buff Bagwell typed "I'm a based chad" more power to ya; pandering with Bagwell's full involvement is indistinguishable from pandering without it.
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Post by eJm on Jul 10, 2022 13:39:20 GMT -5
No, let's stop this right here. The first three months of Buff's Twitter were as verifiably legit as anyone's out there. There would be videos of him at conventions the day of, he'd respond to people and talk to them about things said on Twitter, and those first three months people were sent what they paid for. Did Buff manually type those tweets? No, but I promise you soooooo many of your favorites don't either. They have a team or a single person who runs the account, but first shows the person what's going out there and then they get the OK to post it. Social media strategies is an entire industry. There was as much proof that Buff ran the account as there has been for absolutely any account on social media. What happened would be no different if any other verifiable place online all of a sudden stopped sending out product and began just keeping money. The sudden stop is the scam. Now y'see chief, what I said was that Bagwell was fake. I didn't pass comment on the Twitter account, although if you think Buff Bagwell typed "I'm a based chad" more power to ya; pandering with Bagwell's full involvement is indistinguishable from pandering without it. I mean, he said in the post that he knows he didn’t type out the tweets so I don’t know why you’re assuming he said that.
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 10, 2022 13:47:02 GMT -5
I probably should have put two and two together since Michael was (a few months ago) somewhat active on one of the facebook wrestling pages I'm on. I do really wish Dallas would weigh in on this.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jul 10, 2022 16:51:24 GMT -5
Having not follow this thread since the last posts on page 3 and then to see this. Yikes.
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 11, 2022 23:13:59 GMT -5
On his July 2nd post saying he signed every top hat a guy posted a pay pal screen shot where it looks like he sent $200 (I think friends and family given the comment section where he wrote "Buff" and it went to someone named Javan Miller. Damn. Not 100% sure if it was friends and family but the way he wrote "Buff" makes me think of the comment section where, if you're trying to circumvent the fees system you write something that pay pal might not detect as a payment for an item. And most people doing a con ask for friends payments. Of course, someone write underneath that post asked "didn't you think it was suspect you're sending money to Javan Miller."
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chazraps
Wade Wilson
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Post by chazraps on Jul 12, 2022 1:06:48 GMT -5
On his July 2nd post saying he signed every top hat a guy posted a pay pal screen shot where it looks like he sent $200 (I think friends and family given the comment section where he wrote "Buff" and it went to someone named Javan Miller. Damn. Not 100% sure if it was friends and family but the way he wrote "Buff" makes me think of the comment section where, if you're trying to circumvent the fees system you write something that pay pal might not detect as a payment for an item. And most people doing a con ask for friends payments. Of course, someone write underneath that post asked "didn't you think it was suspect you're sending money to Javan Miller." To give a clearer picture of what was happening, if you look back at the Buff account's tweets when people inquired about payment, he'd always say (both in text and in video) to email the Rebuildingbuff Gmail address. Once you'd contact that address, you'd talk for a bit with a person who was openly not Buff from the jump (it was meant to be sort of a Team Buff email) and then be given the options for either Michael Long's Venmo or Javan Miller's Paypal - which we know now were the same person.
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chazraps
Wade Wilson
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Post by chazraps on Jul 22, 2022 18:36:30 GMT -5
Here's a positive update:
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Post by zrowsdower on Jul 23, 2022 1:07:27 GMT -5
Here's a positive update: Who's that lady in the photo with him?
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Post by Display Name on Jul 23, 2022 4:18:20 GMT -5
Here's a positive update: Who's that lady in the photo with him? Carrie Fisher
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chazraps
Wade Wilson
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Post by chazraps on Aug 29, 2022 16:26:17 GMT -5
Random update on this, if you've seen the accounts on Twitter MichaelLongEnt or WrestleHe11 that's been defending Velveteen Dream and pushing for him to be rehired (weirdly claiming that he was fired due to racism) - that's the same Michael Long aka Javan Miller who is a registered sex offender and the Buff Bagwell scammer.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Aug 29, 2022 16:49:29 GMT -5
Sex offenders stick together...
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 29, 2022 17:22:37 GMT -5
Michael needs to take a Long walk on a short pier.
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Post by y4j1981 on Aug 29, 2022 20:11:02 GMT -5
Buff relapsed and is going to rehab
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Aug 29, 2022 21:35:26 GMT -5
Damn it.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 7, 2022 16:27:42 GMT -5
Update from a week ago.
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