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Post by Clutchhausen on Mar 12, 2022 1:46:17 GMT -5
Holy hell that was a very scary landing. Hoping the big guy heals up quick.
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Post by ppl591 on Mar 12, 2022 1:53:36 GMT -5
I hope nothing but the best for Big E. He's a Saint more worried about how others feel about this. I hope first he's healed and able to live a normal life after this. Wrestling is secondary.
And for Ridge no he shouldn't have been put in a spot to do such a dangerous move but also I hope he's ok this has to be really hard on him too.
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Post by 4real on Mar 12, 2022 2:39:44 GMT -5
As a Brit I wish nothing but success for Ridge but man he needs to take a back seat now and be taken off television for a bit.
Devastated for Big E he is not having the best year just hope he can return stronger than ever.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 12, 2022 2:41:37 GMT -5
Good to hear Big E can feel his extremities and move them. Broken neck stuff is no joke.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Mar 12, 2022 2:52:10 GMT -5
Big E is one of my favourites and possibly one of the most amiable people in the entire industry (along with the rest of New Day). This really sucks, but I am glad it wasn't worse. Get well soon, E!
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 12, 2022 2:52:11 GMT -5
Glad for the positive news. Having lived through Droz, Hayabusa, and others, I don't want to see the same happen to Big E. I echo the sentiments about him being a good dude, met him twice.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Mar 12, 2022 3:23:35 GMT -5
Leave it to Big E to maintain a positive attitude even with a broken neck. I’m wishing him as full and speedy a recovery as possible.
But I do not ever want to see or hear anything from or about the guy who dropped him on his head ever again. I get that accidents happen and this ain’t ballet, but screw that guy.
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 12, 2022 3:32:07 GMT -5
Leave it to Big E to maintain a positive attitude even with a broken neck. I’m wishing him as full and speedy a recovery as possible. But I do not ever want to see or hear anything from or about the guy who dropped him on his head ever again. I get that accidents happen and this ain’t ballet, but screw that guy. Did you get this mad at D'Lo for Droz? Lesser degree (thank goodness) but Owen about Austin? Rey after the Aguayo Jr. accident? Granted, if he's been Jax or Ahmed bad at injuring people,sure. Which worries me...as look at all the second chances Nia got, with little demanded in changing her style? (On the other hand, for instance, at least D'Lo never did the running powerbomb again)
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 12, 2022 3:49:13 GMT -5
My take on the Ridge stuff is that I always the rolling belly to belly looked way better than the fully overhead one anyway. He should try that.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Mar 12, 2022 4:30:31 GMT -5
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Post by lemonyellowson on Mar 12, 2022 4:36:47 GMT -5
Ridge Holland is a walking injury machine.
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Post by Bo Rida on Mar 12, 2022 4:38:03 GMT -5
Would not be surprised if Big E being in the type of shape he is saved him from something much more serious. A friend of mine played collegiate hockey and broke his neck during a game. The doctors told him the thing that kept him from being paralyzed was how much he worked out his traps, protecting himself. Glad he’s moving everything, that’s very scary. Yeah probably. If this guy did the same to someone smaller it could have been an even worse result. Which is why most of the blame is on WWE for creating an environment where this could happen. Be that training, agents or general policy/guidelines (ie no risky spots on random throwaway matches that will be forgotten the next week). Sounds positive so far, fingers crossed for a full recovery.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Mar 12, 2022 4:52:13 GMT -5
Ridge Holland is a walking injury machine. He's an example, similar to Nia Jax before him, of why you don't call up developmental talent so soon just because he has "the look".
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Post by cornettesracket on Mar 12, 2022 5:17:31 GMT -5
Really happy to see big E Is okay given how bad it looked, but it does remind me of the quote from dusty Rhodes, which is “don’t do shit you don’t know how to do” and also “just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.” It’s why I don’t like the apron spots and throws like this outside the ring, as there’s too much risk imo.
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Post by CeilingFan on Mar 12, 2022 5:25:04 GMT -5
Ridge Holland needs to be sent to NXT now.
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Post by cornettesracket on Mar 12, 2022 5:27:34 GMT -5
Ridge Holland needs to be sent to NXT now. At a minimum.
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Post by facethatrunstheplace on Mar 12, 2022 5:30:08 GMT -5
Would not be surprised if Big E being in the type of shape he is saved him from something much more serious. A friend of mine played collegiate hockey and broke his neck during a game. The doctors told him the thing that kept him from being paralyzed was how much he worked out his traps, protecting himself. Glad he’s moving everything, that’s very scary. Yeah probably. If this guy did the same to someone smaller it could have been an even worse result. Which is why most of the blame is on WWE for creating an environment where this could happen. Be that training, agents or general policy/guidelines (ie no risky spots on random throwaway matches that will be forgotten the next week). Sounds positive so far, fingers crossed for a full recovery. He also spiked Johnny Gargano with this same move.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 5:36:01 GMT -5
Might be bare minimum but good on Holland for going to the hospital, can't have been comfortable but its what needs to be done. Soured Austin on Owen for not doing the same and as loved as Owen was can't really blame Austin for that.
Speaking of Austin his neck injuries shortened his career and left him in pain but 25 years on there's been a lot of progress on repairing this part of the body I'm sure. I also hope fan and coworker reaction to this injury and Big E's absence makes certain people high up realize exactly what they've got in Big E.
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Post by lucas_lee on Mar 12, 2022 6:09:50 GMT -5
Why did they agree to that bump. First thing an agent should do is nix a bump like that with a dude that green.
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Post by msc on Mar 12, 2022 6:26:49 GMT -5
That was horrific to see. You don't want to see an injury that bad on anyone. Big E is one of the nicest guys in wrestling. This sucks. It could have been much worse, but it's still horrendous.
My main view is that this is 100% the fault of WWE and that whoever was the producer for that match should be fired instantly. I don't care if its someone we like because they've put together cool matches in the past. The wrestlers need to trust the producer 100%, and the producer needs to know what their wrestlers can and can't do. We all saw Sid end his career trusting his producer Johnny Ace on a stupid movie, and Ace should have been fired from WCW for that one, but instead got promoted in wrestling well above his abilities, while Sid missed out on the 2001-3 pay days.
Time and again, we've seen wrestlers do moves or segments they shouldn't really do, because they have to trust those taking them through the match. Wrestlers far more experienced than Ridge Holland have suffered terribly through over trusting what the WWE wanted them to do. Owen is the obvious example number one here as the ultra tragedy, but there's far too many.
Because, frankly, this was an accident waiting to happen for over a decade. The WWE, time and again, have seen people with potential in early training and rushed them up to the main roster, and expected the gaps to be filled in. Jack Swagger had some scary moments with his powerbomb in his ECW run (hell, he had a scary moment on Dynamite this week) but the WWE were lucky. They were lucky with Mason Ryan, and Big Zeke, and a ludicrous amount of others who showed some level of talent but were rushed onto the main event scene before they were even close to ready. Ridge Holland is the latest in the long line of these thrown in at the deep end to drown and drown others. Add in that in this case, he had his own serious injury and missed over a year of developmental. He had (has) the talent to be a great talent in a few years, but when you throw someone in early, you stunt their growth and career. You bring in people who aren't ready for the spot, or the spots. And the number of times WWE have done this to cut costs, they are bloody lucky a Big E neck injury or a Kairi Sane situation doesn't happen far more often.
So while Ridge Holland will forever take his share of blame in this tragedy (and I hope wiser heads are keeping an eye on him, because this sort of thing has destroyed the confidence of much more experienced heads), this is the fault of the WWE. For overpromoting a green talent. For booking that spot. Seemingly for teaching the wrong technique on a dangerous move, as Taz implies. Pro-wrestling requires trust and timing and it's more than the two guys. You need trust and duty of care throughout the whole team. Someone badly dropped the ball here, and one of WWE's best talents is badly injured as a result.
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