Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 27, 2022 23:10:06 GMT -5
Tons of publicity. Infamy. "Any press is good press." That sort of thing. It also helps the Oscars which nobody watches anymore. I'm aware of the old PR adage, but I don't see it in this case. It's not going to help Will Smith in any way. It's not going to compel even one more person to buy a ticket to see his next movie, or rent King Richard. It's just going to inspire them to make memes. I get what the Oscars get out of it. I'd even get what Chris Rock would potentially get from it. But Will Smith? Looking like a jackass on a night he wins an award for best actor? Nope, not seeing it. It didn't hurt Kanye to act like a jackass on an awards show at the time.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 27, 2022 23:11:06 GMT -5
Tons of publicity. Infamy. "Any press is good press." That sort of thing. It also helps the Oscars which nobody watches anymore. I mean nobody watches anything anymore. The Oscars had a bad couple of years but it's been a few years of pandemic where movies have been weird. In the end ni one just goes up and assaults someone and then goes back to their seat. Its a work The Oscars ratings have been in the toilet for some time since even before the pandemic.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Mar 27, 2022 23:11:33 GMT -5
And if it was a work, then it was a bad one, because all it did was make people on uncomfortable. You don’t want a publicity stunt to make people feel terrible at an event that’s supposed to be fun and a celebration.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Mar 27, 2022 23:12:09 GMT -5
I'm aware of the old PR adage, but I don't see it in this case. It's not going to help Will Smith in any way. It's not going to compel even one more person to buy a ticket to see his next movie, or rent King Richard. It's just going to inspire them to make memes. I get what the Oscars get out of it. I'd even get what Chris Rock would potentially get from it. But Will Smith? Looking like a jackass on a night he wins an award for best actor? Nope, not seeing it. It didn't hurt Kanye to act like a jackass on an awards show at the time. Kanye didn’t slap Taylor Swift though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2022 23:12:26 GMT -5
She cuckolded him in front of the entire nation and the only reason he assaulted Chris tonight was because he saw his wife was giving him the side eye.
Will even laughed at the joke originally.
Very clear his wife has him in a strangle hold. It's embarrassing on his part.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Mar 27, 2022 23:12:54 GMT -5
I respect him for slapping Rock and standing up for his wife. But he shouldn't have done it at the show and taken away the moment from others. But he apologized and he's going to continue to apologize for a while.
But I don't think this is going to impact his career in the slighest.
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Post by King Boo on Mar 27, 2022 23:13:05 GMT -5
I'm aware of the old PR adage, but I don't see it in this case. It's not going to help Will Smith in any way. It's not going to compel even one more person to buy a ticket to see his next movie, or rent King Richard. It's just going to inspire them to make memes. I get what the Oscars get out of it. I'd even get what Chris Rock would potentially get from it. But Will Smith? Looking like a jackass on a night he wins an award for best actor? Nope, not seeing it. It didn't hurt Kanye to act like a jackass on an awards show at the time. That was over 10 years ago. I don't see anyone caring like that today. They don't care about the show to begin with.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 27, 2022 23:13:53 GMT -5
But why does that mean Rock specifically would know anything about it? Has Chris Rock ever mentioned he follows Jada’s podcasts or that he follows news about her or something? She's been open about it and it's been all over entertainment news for a while now. Stop the sealioning. Someone being very open about it doesn't mean shit tho. This is America. We're bombarded with celebrity information 24/7. People forget about celebrity DEATHS all the time. Their entire life being over, not just facts about them. Can't definitively say he knew or not.
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Post by Clutchhausen on Mar 27, 2022 23:13:57 GMT -5
Already sick of seeing this everywhere.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Mar 27, 2022 23:15:08 GMT -5
And if it was a work, then it was a bad one, because all it did was make people on uncomfortable. You don’t want a publicity stunt to make people feel terrible at an event that’s supposed to be fun and a celebration. You could sense the uncomfortable nature in the building for the rest of the broadcast and completely over-shadowed any award that followed, particularly the award Chris Rock was there to host.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2022 23:16:08 GMT -5
It's poppin. The most talked about thing from the Oscars in such a long time.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Mar 27, 2022 23:16:12 GMT -5
Also, I need a replay of the video because I think Will is laughing at the previous joke before he catches up to the bald joke. This is why it looks like he's laughing at the joke but there is a delay in the video.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Mar 27, 2022 23:17:24 GMT -5
You just know WWE or AEW is gonna parody is this at some point. Lol
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Post by BRV on Mar 27, 2022 23:19:08 GMT -5
It was a thousand percent scripted.
The Oscars’ ratings have been tanking for a decade. Absolutely no one cared about the Oscars tonight and the ratings will reflect that. But now it’s automatic water cooler conversation and trending worldwide on social media.
Will Smith gets to play the role of the husband proudly standing up for his wife as she’s belittled on national television.
Chris Rock gets to play the role of comedian who got assaulted for just telling a joke.
And, to really get into the weeds of it, Chris Rock leaned into the slap on stage, and the camera immediately cut to Will Smith as he was shouting back at Chris Rock. If this were truly some dramatic, unscripted moment that shamed the integrity of the Oscars, they wouldn’t have cut right to him as he was swearing at Rock.
It’s absolutely, positively scripted.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Mar 27, 2022 23:20:45 GMT -5
It's poppin. The most talked about thing from the Oscars in such a long time. But there was similar talk about the whole La La Land/Moonlight debacle a few years back and they did jack shit for the ratings as a year later, people had already stopped caring. Granted, this was obviously more dramatic but in a years time will many American people think “I must watch a three and half hour broadcast this year in case something big happens which won’t be shown in full anyway due to it going off the air almost immediately”?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2022 23:20:47 GMT -5
Chris shouldn't have made the joke and Will should have pulled him to the side backstage Both wrong but Will is def more in the wrong for putting his hands on him And making a big f***in scene after. Dude basically went back to his seat just to threaten to hit him again, screaming obscenities like a drunk Randy Marsh. This is the same as the Juwan Howard incident. It's a guy who was in the wrong, arguably understandably, but who also made matters worse by just not being professional afterwards. I can tell these mfs are wrong because it's exactly what I would have done at 19. No forethought. I am all for a good ass whooping always settles things but walking up and slapping that man on Live TV would not been my first option Like I get it, it is your wife and her condition and all that but bro you hurt yourself more in this situation than anything. It was handled completely all wrong and him walking on stage to do that is probably going to set up a lot of rules moving forward as well
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 27, 2022 23:21:21 GMT -5
Max Caster’s next rap should be good
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2022 23:21:44 GMT -5
Because she has been very open about it But why does that mean Rock specifically would know anything about it? Has Chris Rock ever mentioned he follows Jada’s podcasts or that he follows news about her or something? Literally damn near everyone knows about this She talks about it openly and it has been talked about and linked back to her. He knew and he was wrong
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Mar 27, 2022 23:22:00 GMT -5
Also, Will wasn't "cuckold". I know open marriages are a weird concept for people who are used to heteronormative monogamous relationships but you can have sex with other people and your wife have sex with other people and still be in deeply loving caring relationships.
Just needed to say that point because it bears mentioning that they did not trip and haven't tripped on the entanglement jokes this entire time. They laughed at Regina Hall's joke earlier in the night.
The JI Jane joke was literally playing into deeply hurtful insecurity for Jada who has talked about at length the last couple of years her struggle with alopecia.
One thing you can joke about and it totally be fine. But another thing can be deeply hurtful.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Mar 27, 2022 23:23:27 GMT -5
It was a thousand percent scripted. The Oscars’ ratings have been tanking for a decade. Absolutely no one cared about the Oscars tonight and the ratings will reflect that. But now it’s automatic water cooler conversation and trending worldwide on social media. Will Smith gets to play the role of the husband proudly standing up for his wife as she’s belittled on national television. Chris Rock gets to play the role of comedian who got assaulted for just telling a joke. And, to really get into the weeds of it, Chris Rock leaned into the slap on stage, and the camera immediately cut to Will Smith as he was shouting back at Chris Rock. If this were truly some dramatic, unscripted moment that shamed the integrity of the Oscars, they wouldn’t have cut right to him as he was swearing at Rock. It’s absolutely, positively scripted. I wholeheartedly disagree.
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