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Post by cjh on Apr 14, 2022 12:55:28 GMT -5
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 14, 2022 12:56:05 GMT -5
Bianca is going to have a rough time until they beef up the heel side.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 14, 2022 13:02:30 GMT -5
Bianca is going to have a rough time until they beef up the heel side. Indeed. The #2 and #3 heels have dropped their last eight and ten matches respectively. Neither of them have won in three months, no wonder the GM is getting a title shot. And it’s not like the other heels are doing any better. Doudrop, five straight losses, career worst streak. Nikki A.S.H., ten straight losses, career worst streak. Tamina, 18 STRAIGHT LOSSES… career worst streak.
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Post by mistery on Apr 14, 2022 13:02:56 GMT -5
Bianca is going to have a rough time until they beef up the heel side. I mean I would be shocked if Rhea doesn't turn heel next week. But that is only one challenger for Bianca, and it's one that she's already beaten twice. The problem with Bianca's reign is that there are no credible heels to beat her, and as a result, her reign is already dead in the water because the audience has seen her beat everyone pretty decisively.
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Post by cornettesracket on Apr 14, 2022 13:08:32 GMT -5
So Alexa bliss is the no 2 baby face. Based on what exactly ? She’s had one match in nearly seven months and yes she had that stupid pre tapes. And she’s a much better heel. And rhea ripley should one of the stars of the women in WWE but she’s stuck in tag teams and it’s ridiculous. And I see Becky is the updated female version of Roman reigns except in reverse. The fans hated Roman as a baby face yet vince persisted, and now he thinks the fans want to boo Becky which is just so stupid. She’s a natural babyface.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 14, 2022 13:11:14 GMT -5
So Alexa bliss is the no 2 baby face. Based on what exactly ? She’s had one match in nearly seven months and yes she had that stupid pre tapes. And she’s a much better heel. And rhea ripley should one of the stars of the women in WWE but she’s stuck in tag teams and it’s ridiculous. And I see Becky is the updated female version of Roman reigns except in reverse. The fans hated Roman as a baby face yet vince persisted, and now he thinks the fans want to boo Becky which is just so stupid. She’s a natural babyface. I don’t think this is meant to be “This is how it will be AND ITS LOCKED IN FOR 12 MONTHS”, it’s just literally how it is right now. Hell, Rhea Ripley is apparently supposed to turn heel as soon as Monday and go on a singles run.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2022 13:14:37 GMT -5
Well Rhea should fall into the #2 heel if nothing has changed with her presumed killing of Liv come monday and heel turn.
Alexa being the #2 babyface is strange and really sad because they just brought her back and all she did was job to the #1 babyface in the chamber.
I can see them backing off the Rhea heel turn for the moment with Nattie seemingly focusing on NXT at the moment which not saying it is likely but not go with Shayna and Nattie going for the tag titles because that would ssssuuuuuccccckkkkk so I can see Rhea and Liv staying together just a tad bit longer to stretch out the tag title chase.
Either way Raw is in a very dire situation especially on the heel side and Biancas repetitive act of I am the EST (repeat as quick as she can say it) is atleast amongst a right now small portion becoming quite tiresome and so we either need new blood or big sweeping changes heel turns/face turns , new pairings etc.
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Post by cornettesracket on Apr 14, 2022 13:17:47 GMT -5
So Alexa bliss is the no 2 baby face. Based on what exactly ? She’s had one match in nearly seven months and yes she had that stupid pre tapes. And she’s a much better heel. And rhea ripley should one of the stars of the women in WWE but she’s stuck in tag teams and it’s ridiculous. And I see Becky is the updated female version of Roman reigns except in reverse. The fans hated Roman as a baby face yet vince persisted, and now he thinks the fans want to boo Becky which is just so stupid. She’s a natural babyface. I don’t think this is meant to be “This is how it will be AND ITS LOCKED IN FOR 12 MONTHS”, it’s just literally how it is right now. Hell, Rhea Ripley is apparently supposed to turn heel as soon as Monday and go on a singles run. That fair enough but still my post stands. To me that list makes little sense. I hope it does change because if that’s the list as it stands then they aren’t seeing what we see.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 14, 2022 13:23:00 GMT -5
Alexa's placement is likely entirely based on how much merch she moves.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Apr 14, 2022 13:40:55 GMT -5
Armchair Booker in me just started sweating looking at this. Oof, what a wasteland that’s almost entirely self-inflicted.
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Post by sunnytaker on Apr 14, 2022 13:52:44 GMT -5
that's very slim pickings. i mean bianca already beat #2 and #3 repeatedly during her first run. they've about run bianca/becky into the ground at this point given how many chances bianca had to get the belt back before she finally did. rhea heel turn would help. maybe bayley comes back to raw as a heel? they could call up dakota but given how they never gave her a shot as the nxt champ i don;t see them using her as anything but a filler feud. i mean they had to bring sonya back to the ring just to give bianca someone different to face, and the reign just started.
on the face side there's liv and dana i think as the only other faces? so alexa ends up as #2 by default almost.
smackdown has a bit more depth with sasha, naomi, charlotte, rousey and now raquel to go around (asuka when she returns?). RAW on the other hand...
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 14, 2022 13:56:49 GMT -5
So is Asuka still hurt or what?
They haven't used her as a heel before, right? (I guess Kabuki Warriors were at one point? It's sort of a blur)
Murder Clown Paint Asuka vs Bianca Belair could be a hoot
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Post by cornettesracket on Apr 14, 2022 13:57:42 GMT -5
Bianca is going to have a rough time until they beef up the heel side. Indeed. The #2 and #3 heels have dropped their last eight and ten matches respectively. Neither of them have won in three months, no wonder the GM is getting a title shot. And it’s not like the other heels are doing any better. Doudrop, five straight losses, career worst streak. Nikki A.S.H., ten straight losses, career worst streak. Tamina, 18 STRAIGHT LOSSES… career worst streak. Well as Arn Anderson has said, “there’s a difference between fans seeing wrestlers, and caring about them.” And if you have wrestlers losing five, ten, and 18 straight loses then why should fans care about the wrestlers ? Its why on the how would you change WWE production I said use more enhancement talent, because wins matter.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 14, 2022 14:01:02 GMT -5
So is Asuka still hurt or what? They haven't used her as a heel before, right? (I guess Kabuki Warriors were at one point? It's sort of a blur) Murder Clown Paint Asuka vs Bianca Belair could be a hoot Kabuki warriors were supposed to be heels but they were basically too entertaining to remain that way.
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Post by Jayson Tatum Paxley on Apr 14, 2022 14:28:44 GMT -5
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 14, 2022 14:34:31 GMT -5
Rhea will be turning and then Bayley and/or Asuka will be back soon as well. Plus Becky in a gimmick match at some point seems likely. They won’t have a shortage of worthy challengers for Bianca just yet.
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 14, 2022 14:36:07 GMT -5
I could see Bayley going to SD. She and Sasha have said they don’t like being split up on separate brands.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 14, 2022 14:42:23 GMT -5
That's a pretty sad list with the #2 face being someone who has been mostly MIA for seven months and the #2 and #3 heels having won a combined total of about two matches this year.
It gets worse once you get to the "tag division" if you can call it that. It's literally just Sasha and Naomi and then Rhea/Liv who are clearly splitting and Natalya/Shayna who also might no longer be a thing with Natalya looking like she's going to be a regular on NXT going forward. So a week from now there's a chance there's literally going to be just one tag team. I've noticed with the depth being so bad that they've lately been just having woman appear on shows they aren't even assigned to with no explanation. Shanya and Natalya have been appearing on Raw despite being on Smackdown and Liv was on Smackdown last week despite being on Raw. At this point they really should just unify the titles and combine the divisions. Also they should drop the tag titles since they aren't going to ever book them properly and replace it with a secondary singles title to give the midcard woman something to go for.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 14, 2022 14:46:33 GMT -5
I could see Bayley going to SD. She and Sasha have said they don’t like being split up on separate brands. Well I don't think they really have much say so on the matter. Meaning I doubt Vince really gives a crap what they want. If Vince wants Bayley on Raw then that's where she's going regardless if they don't like it.
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Post by mistery on Apr 14, 2022 14:50:46 GMT -5
I could see Bayley going to SD. She and Sasha have said they don’t like being split up on separate brands. Well I don't think they really have much say so on the matter. Meaning I doubt Vince really gives a crap what they want. If Vince wants Bayley on Raw then that's where she's going regardless if they don't like it. Considering the last time they split up, Sasha walked out on the company, yes I think they cave to her demands. Especially since she's been weighing a hollywood career and is making Disney money now as well.
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