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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jun 30, 2022 11:30:23 GMT -5
I don’t know why people keep assuming that if they put Kiss in the Baddies that means Kiss will have to fight women. If anything having a Baddie that competes in the men’s division is more interesting. Usually with stables you get mostly dudes with sometimes a token women’s division rep. It would be refreshing to have a stable that is mostly focused on the women’s division have one member competing in the mens. Also leaves room for mixed tag situations, where it'd be a neat contrast given Jade works a power style and Sonny is so athletic. But Sonny is has consistently fought men from day one in AEW, and given that they don't have any issue with putting trans wrestlers into the division they're comfortable in, I feel like that's not exactly an "Oh no this looks bad" kind of situation.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jun 30, 2022 12:11:43 GMT -5
I don’t see why they can’t book Sonny gradually to, say, the All Atlantic title.
Were I in charge, I’d keep it fairly simple. No homophobic/anti LGBTQ heeling.
She just beats ass and wins the belt on her first attempt, fends off challengers for a few months, then she gets a major rival when another new star is pushed in the Atlantic division.
If she’s treated as straightforwardly a great wrestler, it won’t matter what bigots complaining say.
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Post by Killah Ray on Jun 30, 2022 12:20:06 GMT -5
Sonny is always over with the crowd hell wasn’t she the first wrestler even introduced in the company?
It’s just so damn irritating why she hasn’t been on tv in almost 2 damn years now…
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 30, 2022 12:42:49 GMT -5
I don't understand the whole, "That'd just be pandering to do it at this point," viewpoint on this. It's not like people are asking for Sonny to be given a title for Pride Month, just acknowledged as existing for once.
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Post by champchumpchange on Jun 30, 2022 12:52:10 GMT -5
easiest layup of all time? Please Guy isnt that great I hope Orange is booked the whole month of september since it's citrics month... J.D. Drake got killed by Wardlow on June 1st Jordan Cruz & Ju Dizz (huh?!) wrestled on Rampage on June 3 David Finlay got a match against Hangman on June 8 Davey Vega & Mat Fitchett got to wrestle on Rampage that same week! You know how great those guys are! Bear Boulder, Bear Bronson & Leo Rufiin got to wrestle on Rampage on the 17th Silas Young wrestled on Dynamite on the 22nd All these people got booked before a day-one talent that was once placed front and center to show just how cool and hip TK was. During Pride Month, where the dude is using Kiss for PR saying how inclusive his company is - the schmuck doesn't book him?! f*** outta here
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Post by chazraps on Jun 30, 2022 13:19:06 GMT -5
Has anyone in this thread critical of Sonny seen one of Sonny's matches in 2022 yet?
Sonny absolutely tore down the f***ing sold out house in the main event of F1rst Wrestling's Wrestlepalooza two weeks back against Devon Monroe. Absolute match of the year contender shit.
If you haven't seen Sonny since the Janela feud definitely look these up before you categorize Sonny's level of talent. Can hang with the absolute best.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 30, 2022 15:47:15 GMT -5
easiest layup of all time? Please Guy isnt that great I hope Orange is booked the whole month of september since it's citrics month... J.D. Drake got killed by Wardlow on June 1stJordan Cruz & Ju Dizz (huh?!) wrestled on Rampage on June 3David Finlay got a match against Hangman on June 8 Davey Vega & Mat Fitchett got to wrestle on Rampage that same week! You know how great those guys are! Bear Boulder, Bear Bronson & Leo Rufiin got to wrestle on Rampage on the 17thSilas Young wrestled on Dynamite on the 22nd All these people got booked before a day-one talent that was once placed front and center to show just how cool and hip TK was. During Pride Month, where the dude is using Kiss for PR saying how inclusive his company is - the schmuck doesn't book him?! f*** outta here Ok but do you want Sonny to actually have meaningful screentime and wrestle, or do you want Sonny to lose in like two minutes on Rampage? Because half of your examples were squash matches and not really a genuine argument imo. Idk why Sonny wasn't booked, I don't think it's an obligation that Kiss be booked for Pride Month either, because you can argue for the side that people would just go "Oh of COURSE Sonny got booked for Pride month". Would I like to see them get a storyline or some showcases? Yeah, but idk where they'd be put right now. I'm still pulling for them becoming a Baddie personally.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jun 30, 2022 16:55:26 GMT -5
J.D. Drake got killed by Wardlow on June 1stJordan Cruz & Ju Dizz (huh?!) wrestled on Rampage on June 3David Finlay got a match against Hangman on June 8 Davey Vega & Mat Fitchett got to wrestle on Rampage that same week! You know how great those guys are! Bear Boulder, Bear Bronson & Leo Rufiin got to wrestle on Rampage on the 17thSilas Young wrestled on Dynamite on the 22nd All these people got booked before a day-one talent that was once placed front and center to show just how cool and hip TK was. During Pride Month, where the dude is using Kiss for PR saying how inclusive his company is - the schmuck doesn't book him?! f*** outta here Ok but do you want Sonny to actually have meaningful screentime and wrestle, or do you want Sonny to lose in like two minutes on Rampage? Because half of your examples were squash matches and not really a genuine argument imo. Idk why Sonny wasn't booked, I don't think it's an obligation that Kiss be booked for Pride Month either, because you can argue for the side that people would just go "Oh of COURSE Sonny got booked for Pride month". Would I like to see them get a storyline or some showcases? Yeah, but idk where they'd be put right now. I'm still pulling for them becoming a Baddie personally. Not being on the show at all in literally any capacity is worse than being a warm body
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Post by Cyno on Jun 30, 2022 17:01:00 GMT -5
I dunno about that. Like booking Sonny to be on the receiving end of a jobber squash because of pride month would be the very definition of tokenism.
I think it's better to be off TV altogether than just to do the job on Rampage because it's June. Ideally, Sonny would get some sort of push into relevance.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jun 30, 2022 19:04:18 GMT -5
Wouldn’t it be kind of..pandering?
You don’t have him on the show for, what, over a year, but because it’s Pride you have him suddenly appear on the show? Isn’t that kind of see-through?
Not saying don’t have him on the show at all, but to just have him on the show because of Pride, and then on Dark forever after it..nah.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jun 30, 2022 19:10:46 GMT -5
I'd like to see Sonny appearing more during pride month and the other months of the year too, nobody likes it when the rainbow logos disappear the minute the clock turns midnight. But on that note, doing self promotional videos for Pride Month while not being willing to let her wrestle on TV seems the definition of pandering.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2022 20:16:48 GMT -5
I get that AEW has a stacked roster but 2 years?
2 years and nothing but a video saying hey everyone guess what month it is?
You TRULY believe that there's no room after 2 years or is it something else?
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jun 30, 2022 20:30:15 GMT -5
I get that AEW has a stacked roster but 2 years? 2 years and nothing but a video saying hey everyone guess what month it is? You TRULY believe that there's no room after 2 years or is it something else? Sonny did get that one TNT Title match against Cody but thats it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 30, 2022 21:16:02 GMT -5
I mean people are talking about pandering by putting Sonny on TV
Aren't they pandering by putting Sonny in the Pride commercials tho?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 30, 2022 21:27:49 GMT -5
As much as I really don't want Sonny to turn heel; whatever it takes to get more TV time.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jun 30, 2022 22:34:46 GMT -5
Sonny is a regular in one of the Toronto indie feds and never fails to get a big reaction.
She’s consistently over and never phones it in. I get that there’s a severe case of roster bloat here and a limited number of spots, but I’d love to see Sonny get featured more prominently.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 1, 2022 1:55:08 GMT -5
I dunno about that. Like booking Sonny to be on the receiving end of a jobber squash because of pride month would be the very definition of tokenism. I think it's better to be off TV altogether than just to do the job on Rampage because it's June. Ideally, Sonny would get some sort of push into relevance. I think the sentiment is less "Why isn't Sonny on TV eating pins during Pride Month?" and more just highlighting the consistency of how there are spaces for the non-megastar folk and how for two years now Sonny hasn't found a single bit of ground in any of them. There's other Dark lifers who get put on TV for stuff, there's absolute randos who show up. Sonny doesn't. There's never a place for Sonny. Tony doesn't book him into any of these spots, any month of the year. Absolutely, there should be an actual role here, but in the absence of it, leaving him off of TV but putting on these ads feels so much worse to me. Shit, put him in the Battle Royal. Do something.
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Post by Dang! on Jul 1, 2022 4:31:59 GMT -5
I first read that as "Sunny"...😧
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 1, 2022 6:19:26 GMT -5
Agree to disagree, but I will say that this is the first time I've ever seen anyone even bring up the optics of Gunn Club and Acclaimed together. All of this is based on opinion, so I'm glad Sonny has her fans. My opinion is that roster is way too deep to justify giving Sonny a shot over people like Dante Martin, Angelico, The Factory, Lee Johnson, Lee Moriarty and others. Too deep to give Sonny any time, but shallow enough to give Bobby Fish 21 TV matches, or give The Blade and Tony Nese a world title opportunity. 😂😂😂 you a real one!!!! That’s what I’m saying, MC get busy ass dudes but there’s an always excuse why somebody else couldn’t get the time. Regardless of the reasoning, it’s a rotten look.
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Post by Fundertaker on Jul 1, 2022 6:29:39 GMT -5
J.D. Drake got killed by Wardlow on June 1stJordan Cruz & Ju Dizz (huh?!) wrestled on Rampage on June 3David Finlay got a match against Hangman on June 8 Davey Vega & Mat Fitchett got to wrestle on Rampage that same week! You know how great those guys are! Bear Boulder, Bear Bronson & Leo Rufiin got to wrestle on Rampage on the 17thSilas Young wrestled on Dynamite on the 22nd All these people got booked before a day-one talent that was once placed front and center to show just how cool and hip TK was. During Pride Month, where the dude is using Kiss for PR saying how inclusive his company is - the schmuck doesn't book him?! f*** outta here Ok but do you want Sonny to actually have meaningful screentime and wrestle, or do you want Sonny to lose in like two minutes on Rampage? Because half of your examples were squash matches and not really a genuine argument imo. Idk why Sonny wasn't booked, I don't think it's an obligation that Kiss be booked for Pride Month either, because you can argue for the side that people would just go "Oh of COURSE Sonny got booked for Pride month". Would I like to see them get a storyline or some showcases? Yeah, but idk where they'd be put right now. I'm still pulling for them becoming a Baddie personally. And David Finlay is a NJPW wrestler, so he was part of the build to Forbidden Door which was a limited time thing. Although to be fair, the timing of said event was terrible for pride month in AEW.
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