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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 1, 2022 6:37:42 GMT -5
Second-guessing yourself out of doing anything at all to avoid pandering is honestly more obnoxious than pandering would be. If Sonny showed up on TV to pin a jobber in 5 minutes, that'd have been less insulting than, "Whoops, we did jack shit with Nyla and Sonny. Here's Anthony Bowens on wheels, there's your gay quota, don't ask me for anything ever again."
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 1, 2022 6:55:06 GMT -5
The only reason pandering is even on the table as a topic is because Sonny hasn't already been on television for so long that the ads they ran immediately yanked the conversation up to the forefront. A great way to avoid seeming like you're making token efforts for your openly queer wrestlers is to have them show up in the first place.
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Post by Kalmia on Jul 1, 2022 8:08:07 GMT -5
Whether Khan has TV plans for Sonny or not is one thing, but I do agree that it's a bit off to include Sonny prominently in the Pride ads despite not booking her on TV in months and months.
I do think Sonny is tailor made for the Baddies though and yeah, if Sonny were to join there's no reason why she has to fight women if that's a sticking point.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 1, 2022 8:57:32 GMT -5
J.D. Drake got killed by Wardlow on June 1stJordan Cruz & Ju Dizz (huh?!) wrestled on Rampage on June 3David Finlay got a match against Hangman on June 8 Davey Vega & Mat Fitchett got to wrestle on Rampage that same week! You know how great those guys are! Bear Boulder, Bear Bronson & Leo Rufiin got to wrestle on Rampage on the 17thSilas Young wrestled on Dynamite on the 22nd All these people got booked before a day-one talent that was once placed front and center to show just how cool and hip TK was. During Pride Month, where the dude is using Kiss for PR saying how inclusive his company is - the schmuck doesn't book him?! f*** outta here Ok but do you want Sonny to actually have meaningful screentime and wrestle, or do you want Sonny to lose in like two minutes on Rampage? Because half of your examples were squash matches and not really a genuine argument imo. Idk why Sonny wasn't booked, I don't think it's an obligation that Kiss be booked for Pride Month either, because you can argue for the side that people would just go "Oh of COURSE Sonny got booked for Pride month". Would I like to see them get a storyline or some showcases? Yeah, but idk where they'd be put right now. I'm still pulling for them becoming a Baddie personally. We just want Sonny on TV, it doesn't even have to be Pride month you and others are trying to make it like we want her on because of Pride month. We want her on because she's been busting her ass on the indies and on Dark to get over and hasn't been rewarded. I know the diversity in AEW arguement gets tired but its telling on who TKs favorites are. None of them got an ounce of color on them. And besides the women's title all the other titles are being held by white men. I dont think TK it intentionally but it does send a bad vibe towards some minority viewers (me included).
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Post by 06vwgti on Jul 1, 2022 9:03:15 GMT -5
Ok but do you want Sonny to actually have meaningful screentime and wrestle, or do you want Sonny to lose in like two minutes on Rampage? Because half of your examples were squash matches and not really a genuine argument imo. Idk why Sonny wasn't booked, I don't think it's an obligation that Kiss be booked for Pride Month either, because you can argue for the side that people would just go "Oh of COURSE Sonny got booked for Pride month". Would I like to see them get a storyline or some showcases? Yeah, but idk where they'd be put right now. I'm still pulling for them becoming a Baddie personally. We just want Sonny on TV, it doesn't even have to be Pride month you and others are trying to make it like we want her on because of Pride month. We want her on because she's been busting her ass on the indies and on Dark to get over and hasn't been rewarded. I know the diversity in AEW arguement gets tired but its telling on who TKs favorites are. None of them got an ounce of color on them. And besides the women's title all the other titles are being held by white men. I dont think TK it intentionally but it does send a bad vibe towards some minority viewers (me included). Wait, last I checked, Scorpio Sky isn't white. (Though I dont want him to lose to Wardlow...)
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 1, 2022 9:10:36 GMT -5
We just want Sonny on TV, it doesn't even have to be Pride month you and others are trying to make it like we want her on because of Pride month. We want her on because she's been busting her ass on the indies and on Dark to get over and hasn't been rewarded. I know the diversity in AEW arguement gets tired but its telling on who TKs favorites are. None of them got an ounce of color on them. And besides the women's title all the other titles are being held by white men. I dont think TK it intentionally but it does send a bad vibe towards some minority viewers (me included). Wait, last I checked, Scorpio Sky isn't white. (Though I dont want him to lose to Wardlow...) You're right on that one. Im wrong this case, I'm pretty passionate and biased when it comes to Sonny
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 1, 2022 13:23:42 GMT -5
We just want Sonny on TV, it doesn't even have to be Pride month you and others are trying to make it like we want her on because of Pride month. We want her on because she's been busting her ass on the indies and on Dark to get over and hasn't been rewarded. I know the diversity in AEW arguement gets tired but its telling on who TKs favorites are. None of them got an ounce of color on them. And besides the women's title all the other titles are being held by white men. I dont think TK it intentionally but it does send a bad vibe towards some minority viewers (me included). Wait, last I checked, Scorpio Sky isn't white. (Though I dont want him to lose to Wardlow...) I do, but in this case he's also injured and might kinda have to...
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 1, 2022 14:17:44 GMT -5
I get that AEW has a stacked roster but 2 years? 2 years and nothing but a video saying hey everyone guess what month it is? You TRULY believe that there's no room after 2 years or is it something else? Sonny did get that one TNT Title match against Cody but thats it. That was July 2020
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jul 1, 2022 14:43:26 GMT -5
Sonny did get that one TNT Title match against Cody but thats it. That was July 2020 ... I don't like time.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 1, 2022 14:46:37 GMT -5
Last time I can recall Sonny on tv was losing to Omega in under 10 seconds, which I thought made Kenny look awesome at the time but now feel pretty bad about.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 1, 2022 15:32:59 GMT -5
Sonny would be cool in the baddies, but she really does nothing for me so I’m not mad she’s not on tv.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 1, 2022 17:38:29 GMT -5
Wait, last I checked, Scorpio Sky isn't white. (Though I dont want him to lose to Wardlow...) You're right on that one. Im wrong this case, I'm pretty passionate and biased when it comes to Sonny Ricky Starks is also black, though yeah, FTW title is an "unofficial" title belt, so maybe pedantry to bring him up. That said, yeah, I do hope Keith Lee, Swerve, and some others help address this issue with time.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Jul 1, 2022 18:59:34 GMT -5
Wait, last I checked, Scorpio Sky isn't white. (Though I dont want him to lose to Wardlow...) I do, but in this case he's also injured and might kinda have to... Damn Scorpio is injured too!?! Is there a bunch of banana peels and open manholes backstage
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 1, 2022 19:01:54 GMT -5
I do, but in this case he's also injured and might kinda have to... Damn Scorpio is injured too!?! Is there a bunch of banana peels and open manholes backstage Yep pulled his groin in I believe the last Kaz match?
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Post by champchumpchange on Jul 1, 2022 19:51:26 GMT -5
I do, but in this case he's also injured and might kinda have to... Damn Scorpio is injured too!?! Is there a bunch of banana peels and open manholes backstage Someone backstage should tell some of the talent to reign it in just a tad.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jul 1, 2022 19:58:16 GMT -5
Damn Scorpio is injured too!?! Is there a bunch of banana peels and open manholes backstage Someone backstage should tell some of the talent to reign it in just a tad. I mean, Santana injured himself doing a suplex. Some of it might be style or whatever but it sounds like a lot of bad luck at the same time.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 1, 2022 20:15:25 GMT -5
Damn Scorpio is injured too!?! Is there a bunch of banana peels and open manholes backstage Someone backstage should tell some of the talent to reign it in just a tad. I dont know how many times it has to be said that the talent get hurt on the most mundane of moves and much less on the actual crazy spots, but I guess it needs to be said again here. Scorpio just pulled his groin like... running, he said it himself, it happens.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 1, 2022 20:25:17 GMT -5
Damn Scorpio is injured too!?! Is there a bunch of banana peels and open manholes backstage Someone backstage should tell some of the talent to reign it in just a tad. You can get hurt doing anything minimal. I threw out my shoulder in boxing throwing a punch. Stuff happens, its a human body thing
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Post by Cyno on Jul 1, 2022 21:49:50 GMT -5
Most wrestling injuries happen off mundane stuff. The body wears down over time no matter how "safe" your style is.
Hell it isn't even just wrestling. As crazy as football can be, some of the worst injuries happen off a guy turning his foot wrong running a route and tearing his ACL.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 1, 2022 22:44:15 GMT -5
Most wrestling injuries happen off mundane stuff. The body wears down over time no matter how "safe" your style is. Hell it isn't even just wrestling. As crazy as football can be, some of the worst injuries happen off a guy turning his foot wrong running a route and tearing his ACL. I could be remembering wrong, but I remember some athlete getting hurt because he propped his leg up watching TV and screwed up one of his legs.
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