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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 13, 2022 12:46:50 GMT -5
It sucks and it's a money sink, but I imagine TK's best action at this point is to pay Punk what's left of his deal up front, make him sign an NDA, and cut your losses. The guy ain't worth all this. AEW needs CM Punk, not Matt and Nick Jackson. You're positioning this like the actual solution to what's going on here is one of pure star merit. And maybe the Bucks aren't draws as big as CM Punk, sure, but that really doesn't have any bearing on what actually happened. Letting a top guy walk all over you and your company because he's a draw is an emphatically bad idea. |
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Post by lockedontarget on Sept 13, 2022 12:49:09 GMT -5
It sucks and it's a money sink, but I imagine TK's best action at this point is to pay Punk what's left of his deal up front, make him sign an NDA, and cut your losses. The guy ain't worth all this. AEW needs CM Punk, not Matt and Nick Jackson. The Bucks are a large part of the reason AEW exists in the first place and have done much more for the company in the long term. |
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Post by CeilingFan on Sept 13, 2022 12:49:34 GMT -5
AEW needs CM Punk, not Matt and Nick Jackson. You're positioning this like the actual solution to what's going on here is one of pure star merit. And maybe the Bucks aren't draws as big as CM Punk, sure, but that really doesn't have any bearing on what actually happened. Letting a top guy walk all over you and your company because he's a draw is an emphatically bad idea. Didn't Cody leave because of the Young Bucks? |
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 13, 2022 12:50:37 GMT -5
It sucks and it's a money sink, but I imagine TK's best action at this point is to pay Punk what's left of his deal up front, make him sign an NDA, and cut your losses. The guy ain't worth all this. AEW needs CM Punk, not Matt and Nick Jackson. Seems silly to me. Not even counting the altercation afterwards, on a weekly show, why would you even trust a guy who exploded over the media causing a lot of people to go "oh, geez" as it goes on. So much geez everywhere. But seriously, CM Punk was at his worst at the media scrum. Business wise, he started off his rant at someone not even involved in current storylines. If I see that at his worst, I don't even wanna see him go worse than that at that point considering the others that got affected by him talking. All in all, guy is stuck in a mindset that made him popular. Nothing else after that. |
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Post by Kalmia on Sept 13, 2022 12:54:32 GMT -5
If the story is true that the locker room is largely against Punk, then if it ever goes down to a straight decision between the Bucks and Punk, then AEW needs the Bucks more. It's not just about ticket sales or buys, it's the locker room harmony and feeling too. If keeping Punk is going to unsettle that then no, AEW doesn't need him.
(I don't think it is a decision between the two so this is just hypothetical of course)
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Post by jm on Sept 13, 2022 12:54:39 GMT -5
AEW needs CM Punk, not Matt and Nick Jackson. AEW may not need Matt and Nick Jackson, but AEW was doing fine and was hitting a million a week in viewers before Punk came in. I doubt Punk, as of right now with the controversy, is going to be a game changer. A channel changer, maybe... If Punk ever came back and the Bucks and Omega didn't, I'd for damn sure change the channel from AEW and never turn back to it. In fact, that would probably be it for me as far as wrestling is concered since I refuse to watch WWE for moral reasons that I won't get into here. |
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Post by Dub H on Sept 13, 2022 12:57:08 GMT -5
You're positioning this like the actual solution to what's going on here is one of pure star merit. And maybe the Bucks aren't draws as big as CM Punk, sure, but that really doesn't have any bearing on what actually happened. Letting a top guy walk all over you and your company because he's a draw is an emphatically bad idea. Didn't Cody leave because of the Young Bucks? Not even close |
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Post by Facetious on Sept 13, 2022 12:57:14 GMT -5
You're positioning this like the actual solution to what's going on here is one of pure star merit. And maybe the Bucks aren't draws as big as CM Punk, sure, but that really doesn't have any bearing on what actually happened. Letting a top guy walk all over you and your company because he's a draw is an emphatically bad idea. Didn't Cody leave because of the Young Bucks? Where are you even getting this from haha. |
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 13, 2022 13:00:13 GMT -5
If the story is true that the locker room is largely against Punk, then if it ever goes down to a straight decision between the Bucks and Punk, then AEW needs the Bucks more. It's not just about ticket sales or buys, it's the locker room harmony and feeling too. If keeping Punk is going to unsettle that then no, AEW doesn't need him. (I don't think it is a decision between the two so this is just hypothetical of course) Again, goes back to my Darkest Dungeon analogy. You have a high level unit with all the right perks, but they got the non-perks that can cause said piece to bring down the rest of the party who are as good. Bench the guy until he fixes things, or just risk ruining the synergy of the others to keep him, with the extra risk of damaging your strong pieces. That's some sort of a challenge run, not a move for the better. |
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 13, 2022 13:03:39 GMT -5
Didn't Cody leave because of the Young Bucks? Where are you even getting this from haha. One time, I can pack it in on food and gulp down so much alcohol. If I used my brain then, maybe I could gain that kind of thought. Alas, much as it makes me sad, now I gotta watch my cholesterol, and despite some bumps I cannot think of things in a way where I'm so loaded of food and booze these days. |
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Post by jm on Sept 13, 2022 13:04:33 GMT -5
You're positioning this like the actual solution to what's going on here is one of pure star merit. And maybe the Bucks aren't draws as big as CM Punk, sure, but that really doesn't have any bearing on what actually happened. Letting a top guy walk all over you and your company because he's a draw is an emphatically bad idea. Didn't Cody leave because of the Young Bucks? Provide source for this assertion, please. |
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 13, 2022 13:08:47 GMT -5
Might as well. Watched that match with Punk against Cena live, during a time when the PPVs aired free here. One of the times when I watched and stood up from my seat at the excitement. Talked about it with my co-workers when I got to work.
Now, here I am with VTubers to express my feelings.
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Post by markymark on Sept 13, 2022 13:09:01 GMT -5
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Post by The Captain on Sept 13, 2022 13:09:38 GMT -5
Imagine still supporting CM Punk after everything verifiable that came out. Talk about a cult of personality.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 13, 2022 13:12:49 GMT -5
You're positioning this like the actual solution to what's going on here is one of pure star merit. And maybe the Bucks aren't draws as big as CM Punk, sure, but that really doesn't have any bearing on what actually happened. Letting a top guy walk all over you and your company because he's a draw is an emphatically bad idea. Didn't Cody leave because of the Young Bucks? Even if this was true, and I don't think it is, how would Cody leaving 'because of the Young Bucks' have any bearing on the idea that CM Punk is more trouble than he's worth and Tony should just figure out how to break cleanly from him? |
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Post by CeilingFan on Sept 13, 2022 13:15:53 GMT -5
Didn't Cody leave because of the Young Bucks? Provide source for this assertion, please. I read that somewhere. |
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 13, 2022 13:17:06 GMT -5
Imagine still supporting CM Punk after everything verifiable that came out. Talk about a cult of personality. Didn't. Until the scrum, felt okay with him, then he had, and I realize my cruelty with my words but to hell with it, he just exposed his z-packed ass. You mention a guy not involved in current storylines and his mother? (at this point unsure if it was mentioned during the scrum) talk crap about Moxley and non-alcoholic beer as if that was something wrong? Like, dude, what the f***ing crap? I've got my problems with alcohol due to medical conditions and you talk shit about someone trying to recover? I say this as kind as I could be. f*** off with your ego. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 13, 2022 13:17:57 GMT -5
You're positioning this like the actual solution to what's going on here is one of pure star merit. And maybe the Bucks aren't draws as big as CM Punk, sure, but that really doesn't have any bearing on what actually happened. Letting a top guy walk all over you and your company because he's a draw is an emphatically bad idea. Didn't Cody leave because of the Young Bucks? There were rumors that Cody and the rest of the Elite weren't close anymore and Kenny made comments in an interview with Meltzer that made it clear they didn't see eye to eye but did Cody leave directly cause of the Elite? No. Cody left cause what he wanted to do with his character didn't mesh with where Tony felt they should go (or the audience for that matter) |
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Post by The Captain on Sept 13, 2022 13:21:03 GMT -5
Didn't Cody leave because of the Young Bucks? Even if this was true, and I don't think it is, how would Cody leaving 'because of the Young Bucks' have any bearing on the idea that CM Punk is more trouble than he's worth and Tony should just figure out how to break cleanly from him? The only people who know why Cody left are Cody, Tony, and probably Megha and Brandi. And they're all keeping it close to the chest. |
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 13, 2022 13:25:22 GMT -5
Provide source for this assertion, please. I read that somewhere. Just saying. I could suddenly say that CM Punk has suddenly got into drugs and when asked about it I could say I heard about it somewhere and that's worth less than my ear wax. Unless people want some Cthulhu ear wax. Asking for a friend here. |
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