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Post by Mid-Carder on Sept 13, 2022 13:28:44 GMT -5
So what do we think will get us to page 540? CM Punk is a secret agent for Vince McMahon and was sent to inject a lethal dose of poison?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Sept 13, 2022 13:29:02 GMT -5
Boy, I know Mox wanna break his whole foot off in Punk's ass. Gonna make me put off my vacation cuz you not only got hurt, you showed your full ass while doing it.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 13, 2022 13:31:12 GMT -5
And to lighten the current mood, here's VTuber Ironmouse.
She has CVID, not COVID. When she sings, it hits.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Sept 13, 2022 13:33:15 GMT -5
Just saying. I could suddenly say that CM Punk has suddenly got into drugs and when asked about it I could say I heard about it somewhere and that's worth less than my ear wax. Unless people want some Cthulhu ear wax. Asking for a friend here. I remember when I was about 10 years old reading that Mabel was a sure thing to be the third man in the NWO. |
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Post by polarbearpete on Sept 13, 2022 13:37:50 GMT -5
This is just my personal, possibly baseless, opinion, but I think that the story of the Bucks "sending out feelers" is yet another example of the irresponsible journalism which was a major catalyst for Punk's meltdown in the first place. Obviously, when CM Punk shows up in AEW and then Colt Cabana ceases being used, people are going to speculate. I'm certain almost everybody in that locker room had that thought, and maybe even made the occasional off-color comment or two. But, when the wrestling media starts reporting that "sources within AEW" (which we totally are never going to reveal...gotta protect our sources, you guys) have said that Colt was going to be fired until the Bucks stepped in and saved his job, it makes the speculation and surmise even more rampant. To an extent that it even started to affect CM Punk, who obviously believed that the Bucks and/or Hangman were the ones talking to the media. Except the media outright denied that after the incident (while still, obviously, not disclosing their sources). The same thing has to be going on here. The Bucks have a lot of friends within WWE. They would be foolish not to at least see what WWE has to offer when their contracts expire. It's likely that they've mentioned that to their friends within the company. But, now, the wrestling media (against the backdrop of the Bucks being suspended for something that the Court of Public Opinion has, by and large, adjudicated them not guilty of) has started reporting that the Bucks are SENDING OUT FEELERS because they're INTERESTED IN LEAVING AEW!!!!!!!!!!! It's yellow journalism and I, personally, am f***ing sick of it. Depends what you’re talking about as far as wrestling media. The reputable ones haven’t been off-base really. The random websites that grab the online forum posts or random quotes from podcasts and then report them as news and then add in their own speculation or lies are different than reports from SRS, Meltzer, PWInsider, etc. I see no reason to discredit the latter. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 13, 2022 13:42:14 GMT -5
So I'm guessing the legal stuff likely comes from everybody but Punk being considered corporate employees due to their backstage roles. Also likely due to the scuffle being longer than normal (allegedly around 6 minutes) and there being non involved parties in the room as well
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Post by Chiral on Sept 13, 2022 13:45:52 GMT -5
Closing in on 434 BAY BEEEEE
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2022 13:51:03 GMT -5
It sucks and it's a money sink, but I imagine TK's best action at this point is to pay Punk what's left of his deal up front, make him sign an NDA, and cut your losses. The guy ain't worth all this. AEW needs CM Punk, not Matt and Nick Jackson. No, not really. |
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Sept 13, 2022 13:51:58 GMT -5
This is just my personal, possibly baseless, opinion, but I think that the story of the Bucks "sending out feelers" is yet another example of the irresponsible journalism which was a major catalyst for Punk's meltdown in the first place. Obviously, when CM Punk shows up in AEW and then Colt Cabana ceases being used, people are going to speculate. I'm certain almost everybody in that locker room had that thought, and maybe even made the occasional off-color comment or two. But, when the wrestling media starts reporting that "sources within AEW" (which we totally are never going to reveal...gotta protect our sources, you guys) have said that Colt was going to be fired until the Bucks stepped in and saved his job, it makes the speculation and surmise even more rampant. To an extent that it even started to affect CM Punk, who obviously believed that the Bucks and/or Hangman were the ones talking to the media. Except the media outright denied that after the incident (while still, obviously, not disclosing their sources). The same thing has to be going on here. The Bucks have a lot of friends within WWE. They would be foolish not to at least see what WWE has to offer when their contracts expire. It's likely that they've mentioned that to their friends within the company. But, now, the wrestling media (against the backdrop of the Bucks being suspended for something that the Court of Public Opinion has, by and large, adjudicated them not guilty of) has started reporting that the Bucks are SENDING OUT FEELERS because they're INTERESTED IN LEAVING AEW!!!!!!!!!!! It's yellow journalism and I, personally, am f***ing sick of it. Depends what you’re talking about as far as wrestling media. The reputable ones haven’t been off-base really. The random websites that grab the online forum posts or random quotes from podcasts and then report them as news and then add in their own speculation or lies are different than reports from SRS, Meltzer, PWInsider, etc. I see no reason to discredit the latter. Moreso the secondhand sources which unleash their sensationalized versions of whatever story the Meltzers and SRSes of the world are running onto social media and, then, those sensationalized versions of the stories start to become treated as truth. I have no real issue with Meltzer, Sapp, Keller, etc... but I do think that those people are running a business and have a vested interest in drumming up subscriptions and clicks so you get a lot of "we are working to confirm X" or "there is speculation of Y" that, when you actually read the paywalled story, is a whole lot of nothing. And those things are what the "newz" sites start to pick up and run with as confirmed stories, which causes problems. This issue is hardly unique to wrestling. It's just that wrestling inherently being a blend between reality and scripted entertainment exacerbates the issue because people are willing to believe pretty much anything without any real confirmation. |
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Sept 13, 2022 13:52:17 GMT -5
This is just my personal, possibly baseless, opinion, but I think that the story of the Bucks "sending out feelers" is yet another example of the irresponsible journalism which was a major catalyst for Punk's meltdown in the first place. Obviously, when CM Punk shows up in AEW and then Colt Cabana ceases being used, people are going to speculate. I'm certain almost everybody in that locker room had that thought, and maybe even made the occasional off-color comment or two. But, when the wrestling media starts reporting that "sources within AEW" (which we totally are never going to reveal...gotta protect our sources, you guys) have said that Colt was going to be fired until the Bucks stepped in and saved his job, it makes the speculation and surmise even more rampant. To an extent that it even started to affect CM Punk, who obviously believed that the Bucks and/or Hangman were the ones talking to the media. Except the media outright denied that after the incident (while still, obviously, not disclosing their sources). The same thing has to be going on here. The Bucks have a lot of friends within WWE. They would be foolish not to at least see what WWE has to offer when their contracts expire. It's likely that they've mentioned that to their friends within the company. But, now, the wrestling media (against the backdrop of the Bucks being suspended for something that the Court of Public Opinion has, by and large, adjudicated them not guilty of) has started reporting that the Bucks are SENDING OUT FEELERS because they're INTERESTED IN LEAVING AEW!!!!!!!!!!! It's yellow journalism and I, personally, am f***ing sick of it. Right now, more than ever, wrestling journalism needs its answer to Edward R. Murrow to call this shit out. Because you are spot f***ing on. |
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Post by jm on Sept 13, 2022 13:56:16 GMT -5
This is just my personal, possibly baseless, opinion, but I think that the story of the Bucks "sending out feelers" is yet another example of the irresponsible journalism which was a major catalyst for Punk's meltdown in the first place. Obviously, when CM Punk shows up in AEW and then Colt Cabana ceases being used, people are going to speculate. I'm certain almost everybody in that locker room had that thought, and maybe even made the occasional off-color comment or two. But, when the wrestling media starts reporting that "sources within AEW" (which we totally are never going to reveal...gotta protect our sources, you guys) have said that Colt was going to be fired until the Bucks stepped in and saved his job, it makes the speculation and surmise even more rampant. To an extent that it even started to affect CM Punk, who obviously believed that the Bucks and/or Hangman were the ones talking to the media. Except the media outright denied that after the incident (while still, obviously, not disclosing their sources). The same thing has to be going on here. The Bucks have a lot of friends within WWE. They would be foolish not to at least see what WWE has to offer when their contracts expire. It's likely that they've mentioned that to their friends within the company. But, now, the wrestling media (against the backdrop of the Bucks being suspended for something that the Court of Public Opinion has, by and large, adjudicated them not guilty of) has started reporting that the Bucks are SENDING OUT FEELERS because they're INTERESTED IN LEAVING AEW!!!!!!!!!!! It's yellow journalism and I, personally, am f***ing sick of it. Depends what you’re talking about as far as wrestling media. The reputable ones haven’t been off-base really. The random websites that grab the online forum posts or random quotes from podcasts and then report them as news and then add in their own speculation or lies are different than reports from SRS, Meltzer, PWInsider, etc. I see no reason to discredit the latter. To piggyback off of your point: The random websites that grab online forum posts and podcast quotes more times than not have an agenda they are trying to push. And so when they see a random forum or podcast quote that confirms their belief, they go and report it as fact without doing any fact-checking. Hell, some of those same sites twist quotes from Meltzer and SRS to fit their agenda. And then it's Meltzer and SRS's reputations that take a hit when it's someone else who twisted their words. What I'm trying to say is that when it comes to the wrestling "media": confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 13, 2022 13:58:41 GMT -5
Provide source for this assertion, please. I read that somewhere. It's sort of complicated why he left, a lot of it being that being EVP while also wanting to be a main eventer put him in a difficult position he wasn't ready for in his opinion, that he should have gone into it when he was retired or winding down, and I think also just that the main event scene was crowded in AEW at that point. Khan wanted to keep him, but they couldn't agree on pay, also, I think. In any case, I do distinctly remember him listing one or both Bucks specifically among the people he was thanking for his AEW tenure, which I don't think he'd do if they had bad blood. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 13, 2022 14:02:13 GMT -5
So the CM Punk stuff has led to a Twitter beef between *checks notes* David Bixsapen and Becky Bayless
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Post by Mid-Carder on Sept 13, 2022 14:10:47 GMT -5
In any case, I do distinctly remember him listing one or both Bucks specifically among the people he was thanking for his AEW tenure, which I don't think he'd do if they had bad blood. My favourite part of his statement was thanking "Kenneth Omega" like it's his full name. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 13, 2022 14:12:28 GMT -5
Didn't Cody leave because of the Young Bucks? There were rumors that Cody and the rest of the Elite weren't close anymore and Kenny made comments in an interview with Meltzer that made it clear they didn't see eye to eye but did Cody leave directly cause of the Elite? No. Cody left cause what he wanted to do with his character didn't mesh with where Tony felt they should go (or the audience for that matter) Ended up probably being for the best for most of the people involved. Cody's mega hot as a face in the WWE which validates him thinking there was still plenty of meat on that bone, but AEW also was just not the venue for him to keep at it, given people had really gotten burned out on it, and some others tried to fill in the blanks. Isn't to say nothing was lost, as some people really seemed to suffer for it, and some stuff like Lambert's act or House of Black meandering kind of showed it wasn't all Cody's fault some of this stuff wasn't working. I do think AEW is definitely still working out kinks, but both sides needed the space. I do kind of wonder if having both Cody and Omega out of the picture for as long as they were did damage, though, given Cody was often a mentor for a lot of the younger guys, and Omega has a much better head for the women than Khan does. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 13, 2022 14:13:00 GMT -5
So the CM Punk stuff has led to a Twitter beef between *checks notes* David Bixsapen and Becky Bayless Dare I look? EDIT: Ah, I see what it's about. Ehh, I get why Becky feels the need to stick up for someone she had positive interactions with, but I also wonder if it's occurred to her how long ago that was. Once upon a time, Colt and Punk were thick as thieves, too, until they weren't. It's sort of like how Winona Ryder said how Johnny Depp had never abused her, but she did also point out that she also had been with him decades ago and that wasn't really any indication one way or another if accusations against him since then had merit. |
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Sept 13, 2022 14:15:18 GMT -5
So the CM Punk stuff has led to a Twitter beef between *checks notes* David Bixsapen and Becky Bayless Dare I look? One is a former coworker and possible friend of Punk. The other is a douchenozzle “journalist” who blocks left and right. I’m sure you can guess how it went. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 13, 2022 14:17:01 GMT -5
AEW needs CM Punk, not Matt and Nick Jackson. AEW absolutely, unequivocally does not "need" CM Punk. as I said multiple times CM Punk needs AEW more than AEW needs Punk. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 13, 2022 14:19:15 GMT -5
One is a former coworker and possible friend of Punk. The other is a douchenozzle “journalist” who blocks left and right. I’m sure you can guess how it went. Yep, looked at it. To be honest, I know Bix's name but I know f*** all about him, so I can't really comment outside of saying I can see why she'd feel the way she would about it, given she knew Punk, even if part of me sort of wonders if they kept in touch or not. |
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Post by Facetious on Sept 13, 2022 14:19:23 GMT -5
Look, I love Punk. I loved Punk's run in the company. I wish he didn't flame out the way he did. But in all honesty, AEW would have been perfectly fine without him.
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