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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 21, 2022 21:25:35 GMT -5
Story they were going for is yeah Pac hates OC and doesn't respect him, and he had to cheat to win. I didn't like how the ending played out, but with how they're building that, OC has to be the one to dethrone Pac. Loss doesn't hurt OC as he will continue to be over no matter what, but maybe would have held off on this match? Yeah I still tend to think that OC wins the rematch and then finds himself in Ego’s warpath against the comedy gimmicks in AEW. But, I don’t disagree that we’re long past the point we’re it’s reasonable to expect OC to decisively win a feud, much less a championship. Only poorly booked feud he's had IMO is the HFO won (I don't consider the Cody stuff a feud). I mean, again, my solution would have been to hold off on this match since the whole idea is Pac doesn't respect OC
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 21, 2022 21:26:19 GMT -5
Story they were going for is yeah Pac hates OC and doesn't respect him, and he had to cheat to win. I didn't like how the ending played out, but with how they're building that, OC has to be the one to dethrone Pac. Loss doesn't hurt OC as he will continue to be over no matter what, but maybe would have held off on this match? My thing is, things don't become a trend until they actually do and you risk people starting to realize he's not winning title matches. I just wouldn't book him in another one unless you actually plan to have him win He's going to be over but there is a risk of hurting him and you just never know how fans can go from one mood to another Hey I'm agreeing with that point saying I would have done things differently.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 21, 2022 21:31:39 GMT -5
I think the key is to book another feud with him where the opponent is like “You’re not a real wrestler. You’re a comedy guy”
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 21:32:38 GMT -5
I think the key is to book another feud with him where the opponent is like “You’re not a real wrestler. You’re a comedy guy” 7th times the charm just wait guys, you gotta hit 10 tries and then the real tries start, everyone knows this, aew is the best
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Sept 21, 2022 21:33:37 GMT -5
I think the key is to book another feud with him where the opponent is like “You’re not a real wrestler. You’re a comedy guy” 7th times the charm When it's come to PAC it sure works, they're the perfect yin and yang to one another Jericho's feud was fun too and had really good segments, and he won it in the end.
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Sept 21, 2022 21:37:23 GMT -5
Yeah that's a terrible stat no matter how you put it but honestly if I were in an All Atlantic title match I'd be throwing that shit like I was Bob Sapp. I don't wanna wrestle in f***ing Zanzibar all on my own as a global ambassador with Michael Nakazawa on the phone as my only friend. Being champion of the whole Atlantic probably sucks fat dicks honestly. Too much work.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 21, 2022 21:37:45 GMT -5
I think the key is to book another feud with him where the opponent is like “You’re not a real wrestler. You’re a comedy guy” 7th times the charm When it's come to PAC it sure works, they're the perfect yin and yang to one another Jericho's feud was fun too and had really good segments, and he won it in the end. I think it's telling that the best example you can cite of a time Orange Cassidy actually accomplished anything was two years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 21:38:25 GMT -5
Yeah that's a terrible stat no matter how you put it but honestly if I were in an All Atlantic title match I'd be throwing that shit like I was Bob Sapp. I don't wanna wrestle in f***ing Zanzibar all on my own as a global ambassador with Michael Nakazawa on the phone as my only friend. Being champion of the whole Atlantic probably sucks fat dicks honestly. Too much work. and then you gotta worry about all the tridents and mermaids and god knows that field has been controversial lately.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 21, 2022 21:38:43 GMT -5
I think the key is to book another feud with him where the opponent is like “You’re not a real wrestler. You’re a comedy guy” 7th times the charm When it's come to PAC it sure works, they're the perfect yin and yang to one another Jericho's feud was fun too and had really good segments, and he won it in the end. He won the Jericho feud and then proceeded to stay in exactly the same place. Its hamster wheel booking. Guy says he’s a joke and not a real wrestler. Match happens and Orange wrestles his ass off and the guy is like Oh nooooo I guess he’s better than I thought and either cheats to win or barely scrapes by. Over and over and over
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 21, 2022 21:40:16 GMT -5
Yeah that's a terrible stat no matter how you put it but honestly if I were in an All Atlantic title match I'd be throwing that shit like I was Bob Sapp. I don't wanna wrestle in f***ing Zanzibar all on my own as a global ambassador with Michael Nakazawa on the phone as my only friend. Being champion of the whole Atlantic probably sucks fat dicks honestly. Too much work. Look, it's better than being the Pacific champion, you've gotta fight kaiju.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Sept 21, 2022 21:40:45 GMT -5
When it's come to PAC it sure works, they're the perfect yin and yang to one another Jericho's feud was fun too and had really good segments, and he won it in the end. I think it's telling that the best example you can cite of a time Orange Cassidy actually accomplished anything was two years ago. I cited a feud Cassidy won, not his only accomplishment in three years, just a good example of one, that's putting words in my mouth lol
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Post by Perd on Sept 21, 2022 21:41:43 GMT -5
He seems to lose focus during title matches. I know he fancies himself as "Fresnly Squeezed". But in this situation, maybe better to concentrate.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Sept 21, 2022 21:42:14 GMT -5
When it's come to PAC it sure works, they're the perfect yin and yang to one another Jericho's feud was fun too and had really good segments, and he won it in the end. He won the Jericho feud and then proceeded to stay in exactly the same place. Its hamster wheel booking. Guy says he’s a joke and not a real wrestler. Match happens and Orange wrestles his ass off and the guy is like Oh nooooo I guess he’s better than I thought and either cheats to win or barely scrapes by. Over and over and over It's still worked most of the times they did it, hell he and Ospreay was one of the best matches on Forbidden Door, and it was an audible match I'm not even saying I don't want to see Cassidy win a title or something but I'm also saying he isn't ruined by any metric, he's pretty bulletproof.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 21, 2022 21:43:33 GMT -5
He won the Jericho feud and then proceeded to stay in exactly the same place. Its hamster wheel booking. Guy says he’s a joke and not a real wrestler. Match happens and Orange wrestles his ass off and the guy is like Oh nooooo I guess he’s better than I thought and either cheats to win or barely scrapes by. Over and over and over It's still worked most of the times they did it, hell he and Ospreay was one of the best matches on Forbidden Door, and it was an audible match I'm not even saying I don't want to see Cassidy win a title or something but I'm also saying he isn't ruined by any metric, he's pretty bulletproof. I wasnt saying he was ruined. I’m saying it’s boring as f*** and clearly going nowhere
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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 21, 2022 21:44:12 GMT -5
I want them to win the Trios titles. Mostly for Chuck, but I want Orange to get a belt too
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 21:44:50 GMT -5
He seems to lose focus during title matches. I know he fancies himself as "Fresnly Squeezed". But in this situation, maybe better to concentrate. I got it...He can get a new SRS edge to him and start coming out with jenna jameson...Jen and Juice
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Sept 21, 2022 21:45:17 GMT -5
It's still worked most of the times they did it, hell he and Ospreay was one of the best matches on Forbidden Door, and it was an audible match I'm not even saying I don't want to see Cassidy win a title or something but I'm also saying he isn't ruined by any metric, he's pretty bulletproof. I wasnt saying he was ruined. I’m saying it’s boring as f*** and clearly going nowhere If the route is him beating PAC for the belt in a rematch then it's not going nowhere, but I guess we have to see how next week looks
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 21, 2022 21:45:27 GMT -5
I think it's telling that the best example you can cite of a time Orange Cassidy actually accomplished anything was two years ago. I cited a feud Cassidy won, not his only accomplishment in three years, just a good example of one, that's putting words in my mouth lol Fair enough but just looking at the feuds he's had since... - Involved in a mini-feud with Cody over the TBS title, lost. - Won the feud with Miro and Kip, I'll give you that one. - Quickie title feud with Kenny and PAC where he was made to look like an idiot multiple times over en route to being screwed out of the belt, nothing whatsoever came of it. - Spent an absolute goddamn eternity feuding with Matt Hardy, lost. - Don't think he actually had a feud between Matt and PAC. - Lost two title matches for separate belts to PAC in this current feud. It's not like he's been quietly running up big wins all this time, he barely does anything.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 21:46:15 GMT -5
He seems to lose focus during title matches. I know he fancies himself as "Fresnly Squeezed". But in this situation, maybe better to concentrate. I got it...He can get a new SRS edge to him and start coming out with jenna jameson...Jen and Juice laid back covered for the pin
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 21:47:28 GMT -5
I got it...He can get a new SRS edge to him and start coming out with jenna jameson...Jen and Juice laid back covered for the pin Snoop would definitely play him out too
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