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Post by The Prince That Was Promised on Sept 21, 2022 22:24:36 GMT -5
The silly antics before and during his matches don't belong in the main event or any title scene. People love it because it doesn't interfere with the primary storylines. He can challenge but he shouldn't win. Just my opinion. I understand the crowds love him, but they can just as easily fall out of love with him should he be over-pushed past the likes of Wardlow, Jungle Boy or Miro for title gold. He wins top gold and holds it for an extended period of time and hardcores will start to realize that the top prize/s on the show are in the hands of goofs when you have a roster as stacked and as badass as it is. There's no place for an OC AAA or TNT title run with a roster such as this. I would do Trios gold and keep it at that. Hard disagree. A dude who used an overly theatrical elbow drop is one of the most beloved and respected wrestlers ever. Not to mention the dude who used a fist drop variation of essentially the same thing. A dude who had an entire sequence where he randomly became impervious to pain by flexing his muscles around like a peacock is maybe the most legendary wrestler of all time. All of those signature spots were explained in kayfabe as mind games meant to throw the opponent off their game. I don’t see how OC is any different. He hasn’t been a true comedy character in years. It’s well established that he’s f***ing around to throw his opponents off of their game, but when push comes to shove he can wrestle with the best of them. There’s no reason that can’t be a championship-winning gimmick. Maybe I'm being hard on the guy but I'm not really interested in seeing any of the AEW titles in the hands of Orange Cassidy. Ridiculous gimmicks have won championships in the past sure, but AEW's title scene has been mostly serious and I prefer they kept it that way. Those guys you're referring to were built like brickhouses, OC is built like a teenage boy. So he's a comedian and he doesn't look like a wrestler. Perception is everything, especially when gold is involved, which is the standard for what your show is all about so only serious talent should be champions in a company that prides itself in its more mature sports based feel. I may be in the minority on here but PAC hypothetically losing to OC clean (despite what history has taught us about anything being able to happen in wrestling) is utterly ridiculous to me. And oh I hated Hulk Hogan. |
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Post by The Captain on Sept 21, 2022 22:27:34 GMT -5
Hey now He lost to Wardlow too Yeah, they stopped his momentum once again with a loss to Wardlow this year. I am tired. Guys considered higher on the totem pole than OC got curb stomped by Wardlow within seconds. OC actually challenged him and earned his respect (in the middle of Wardlow's own mega-push, even). I think that says how they feel about him. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Sept 21, 2022 22:27:48 GMT -5
Hard disagree. A dude who used an overly theatrical elbow drop is one of the most beloved and respected wrestlers ever. Not to mention the dude who used a fist drop variation of essentially the same thing. A dude who had an entire sequence where he randomly became impervious to pain by flexing his muscles around like a peacock is maybe the most legendary wrestler of all time. All of those signature spots were explained in kayfabe as mind games meant to throw the opponent off their game. I don’t see how OC is any different. He hasn’t been a true comedy character in years. It’s well established that he’s f***ing around to throw his opponents off of their game, but when push comes to shove he can wrestle with the best of them. There’s no reason that can’t be a championship-winning gimmick. Maybe I'm being hard on the guy but I'm not really interested in seeing any of the AEW titles in the hands of Orange Cassidy. Ridiculous gimmicks have won championships in the past sure, but AEW's title scene has been mostly serious and I prefer they kept it that way. Those guys you're referring to were built like brickhouses, OC is built like a teenage boy. So he's a comedian and he doesn't look like a wrestler. Perception is everything, especially when gold is involved, which is the standard for what your show is all about so only serious talent should be champions in a company that prides itself in its more mature sports based feel. I may be in the minority on here but PAC hypothetically losing to OC clean (despite what history has taught us about anything being able to happen in wrestling) is utterly ridiculous to me. And oh I hated Hulk Hogan. Ah cool you've decided to bring body shaming into this, that's always good for an argument you're trying to defend, anyway  Idk what teenage boys are around you in your town, but OC to me has always looked to be in great shape, and if we're gonna talk about body size, there are guys half OC's size who have knocked people out and destroyed opponents in legitimate sports, this is such a god damn tiring argument to have. |
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Post by kimrey on Sept 21, 2022 22:30:00 GMT -5
Hard disagree. A dude who used an overly theatrical elbow drop is one of the most beloved and respected wrestlers ever. Not to mention the dude who used a fist drop variation of essentially the same thing. A dude who had an entire sequence where he randomly became impervious to pain by flexing his muscles around like a peacock is maybe the most legendary wrestler of all time. All of those signature spots were explained in kayfabe as mind games meant to throw the opponent off their game. I don’t see how OC is any different. He hasn’t been a true comedy character in years. It’s well established that he’s f***ing around to throw his opponents off of their game, but when push comes to shove he can wrestle with the best of them. There’s no reason that can’t be a championship-winning gimmick. Maybe I'm being hard on the guy but I'm not really interested in seeing any of the AEW titles in the hands of Orange Cassidy. Ridiculous gimmicks have won championships in the past sure, but AEW's title scene has been mostly serious and I prefer they kept it that way. Those guys you're referring to were built like brickhouses, OC is built like a teenage boy. So he's a comedian and he doesn't look like a wrestler. Perception is everything, especially when gold is involved, which is the standard for what your show is all about so only serious talent should be champions in a company that prides itself in its more mature sports based feel. I may be in the minority on here but PAC hypothetically losing to OC clean (despite what history has taught us about anything being able to happen in wrestling) is utterly ridiculous to me. And oh I hated Hulk Hogan. “Built like a teenage boy” I’m sorry, have you seen him? The dude is in amazing shape. It’s so weird to me when people act like he isn’t. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 22:30:35 GMT -5
Hard disagree. A dude who used an overly theatrical elbow drop is one of the most beloved and respected wrestlers ever. Not to mention the dude who used a fist drop variation of essentially the same thing. A dude who had an entire sequence where he randomly became impervious to pain by flexing his muscles around like a peacock is maybe the most legendary wrestler of all time. All of those signature spots were explained in kayfabe as mind games meant to throw the opponent off their game. I don’t see how OC is any different. He hasn’t been a true comedy character in years. It’s well established that he’s f***ing around to throw his opponents off of their game, but when push comes to shove he can wrestle with the best of them. There’s no reason that can’t be a championship-winning gimmick. Maybe I'm being hard on the guy but I'm not really interested in seeing any of the AEW titles in the hands of Orange Cassidy. Ridiculous gimmicks have won championships in the past sure, but AEW's title scene has been mostly serious and I prefer they kept it that way. Those guys you're referring to were built like brickhouses, OC is built like a teenage boy. So he's a comedian and he doesn't look like a wrestler. Perception is everything, especially when gold is involved, which is the standard for what your show is all about so only serious talent should be champions in a company that prides itself in its more mature sports based feel. I may be in the minority on here but PAC hypothetically losing to OC clean (despite what history has taught us about anything being able to happen in wrestling) is utterly ridiculous to me. And oh I hated Hulk Hogan. Orange Cassidy is absolutely shredded and the gimmick hasn't been that ridiculous since they started tweaking it about 2 years ago. He's basically a stoner version of Johnny Saint. That all being said... I want him to win a belt, but I also have to remind myself that before the attitude era and belts becoming hot potatoes, plenty of over midcard guys did just fine and never won a single belt. That's just how wrestling was. OC doesn't need it, but he does need to win more feuds. |
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Sept 21, 2022 22:31:12 GMT -5
Hard disagree. A dude who used an overly theatrical elbow drop is one of the most beloved and respected wrestlers ever. Not to mention the dude who used a fist drop variation of essentially the same thing. A dude who had an entire sequence where he randomly became impervious to pain by flexing his muscles around like a peacock is maybe the most legendary wrestler of all time. All of those signature spots were explained in kayfabe as mind games meant to throw the opponent off their game. I don’t see how OC is any different. He hasn’t been a true comedy character in years. It’s well established that he’s f***ing around to throw his opponents off of their game, but when push comes to shove he can wrestle with the best of them. There’s no reason that can’t be a championship-winning gimmick. Maybe I'm being hard on the guy but I'm not really interested in seeing any of the AEW titles in the hands of Orange Cassidy. Ridiculous gimmicks have won championships in the past sure, but AEW's title scene has been mostly serious and I prefer they kept it that way. Those guys you're referring to were built like brickhouses, OC is built like a teenage boy. So he's a comedian and he doesn't look like a wrestler. Perception is everything, especially when gold is involved, which is the standard for what your show is all about so only serious talent should be champions in a company that prides itself in its more mature sports based feel. I may be in the minority on here but PAC hypothetically losing to OC clean (despite what history has taught us about anything being able to happen in wrestling) is utterly ridiculous to me. And oh I hated Hulk Hogan. I guess what I’m saying is that Orange Cassidy is no more a ridiculous gimmick than Hulk Hogan, John Cena, and the Rock. He has some silly spots, but no sillier than the People’s Elbow, the Five Knuckle Shuffle, and Hulking Up. Obviously, no one batted an eye at those guys winning championships despite the silly elements of their ring work, so why is Orange Cassidy any different? It’s not like Orange Cassidy is of the ilk of Mantaur, Doink the Clown, or The Maestro or something. His gimmick is really just “good wrestler who acts nonchalant to get in his opponents’ heads.” EDIT: And I’ll just echo the general sentiment that OC’s only built like a teenage boy if you happen to live in, like, an Olympic training community or something. I’ll grant you he’s not tall, but neither was Shawn Michaels. |
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Post by The Prince That Was Promised on Sept 21, 2022 22:31:20 GMT -5
The silly antics before and during his matches don't belong in the main event or any title scene. People love it because it doesn't interfere with the primary storylines. He can challenge but he shouldn't win. Just my opinion. I understand the crowds love him, but they can just as easily fall out of love with him should he be over-pushed past the likes of Wardlow, Jungle Boy or Miro for title gold. He wins top gold and holds it for an extended period of time and hardcores will start to realize that the top prize/s on the show are in the hands of goofs when you have a roster as stacked and as badass as it is. There's no place for an OC AAA or TNT title run with a roster such as this. I would do Trios gold and keep it at that. Had he beaten Wardlow for example that would have been disastrous. Anyone should be able to beat anyone in wrestling, anyone should be able to realistically get a title in wrestling That is the magic of wrestling, gatekeeping it like this is more disastrous to me than anything else. Orange Cassidy can fly, he can be technical, he can punch you square in the jaw and knock your ass out. This isn't rocket science, his antics don't ever take away from a match either, they suck a crowd in, and this has happened all over the US, at this point it's just proven to work and people are rapidly screaming they they like and want more of it, and this thread proves that includes the prospect of gold. There is absolutely a place for Orange Cassidy as a champion, if you don't like him, fine, but wrestling and AEW will be absolutely fine if and when he holds gold, and it will be a huge moment for the company despite what some might think. The title lineage in AEW has been filled with serious talent or talent perceived to be the best or in other words "Elite". So no, in AEW anyone shouldn't just be winning titles. OC will eventually get a run at some kind of gold though and I'll have to live with it. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Sept 21, 2022 22:34:11 GMT -5
Anyone should be able to beat anyone in wrestling, anyone should be able to realistically get a title in wrestling That is the magic of wrestling, gatekeeping it like this is more disastrous to me than anything else. Orange Cassidy can fly, he can be technical, he can punch you square in the jaw and knock your ass out. This isn't rocket science, his antics don't ever take away from a match either, they suck a crowd in, and this has happened all over the US, at this point it's just proven to work and people are rapidly screaming they they like and want more of it, and this thread proves that includes the prospect of gold. There is absolutely a place for Orange Cassidy as a champion, if you don't like him, fine, but wrestling and AEW will be absolutely fine if and when he holds gold, and it will be a huge moment for the company despite what some might think. The title lineage in AEW has been filled with serious talent or talent perceived to be the best or in other words "Elite". So no, in AEW anyone shouldn't just be winning titles. OC will eventually get a run at some kind of gold though and I'll have to live with it. Kenny Omega did a tag match with a man that featured "The Hentai Slide" The Young Bucks are The Young Bucks, their gear and facial hair alone sells that for me. Britt Baker celebrated her title win with Big Macs and has had some comedy first vignettes. There have been serious title holders, but we're not gonna act like everyone's just been this hard faced straight and narrow person. |
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Post by markymark on Sept 21, 2022 22:35:48 GMT -5
Orange and Kingston are two guys where you expect them to lose in a big match. Khan seems to think those two in particular can always rebound from losses due to popularity, but at some point it’s going to hurt them with the fans too.
I feel the main reason is their age(OC is 38? and Kingston is 40) while TK would rather pull the trigger on younger talent.(Acclaimed)
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Post by The Prince That Was Promised on Sept 21, 2022 22:39:44 GMT -5
The title lineage in AEW has been filled with serious talent or talent perceived to be the best or in other words "Elite". So no, in AEW anyone shouldn't just be winning titles. OC will eventually get a run at some kind of gold though and I'll have to live with it. Kenny Omega did a tag match with a man that featured "The Hentai Slide" The Young Bucks are The Young Bucks, their gear and facial hair alone sells that for me. Britt Baker celebrated her title win with Big Macs and has had some comedy first vignettes. There have been serious title holders, but we're not gonna act like everyone's just been this hard faced straight and narrow person. Non-serious one off segments don't equate to a 24/7 non-serious personality. It's okay for a Kenny Omega to have a comedy segment once in a blue moon, but at the end of the day he's still the Best Bout Machine. At the end of the day Britt Baker is the badass who rips people on the mic and went to war with Thunder Rosa. OC is a guy who puts his hands in his pocket and his whole personality is that he's lazy. Trust me I know it works for the live crowd and I know you guys love him on here, but this is just the way I see it. As said earlier, I know he'll get a run as he's over AF, but from my POV its gonna be utter trash and for me will make the title he wins feel worthless. |
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Post by Fade on Sept 21, 2022 22:42:20 GMT -5
Orange and Kingston are two guys where you expect them to lose in a big match. Khan seems to think those two in particular can always rebound from losses due to popularity, but at some point it’s going to hurt them with the fans too. I feel the main reason is their age(OC is 38? and Kingston is 40) while TK would rather pull the trigger on younger talent.(Acclaimed)
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Post by The Prince That Was Promised on Sept 21, 2022 22:44:51 GMT -5
Maybe I'm being hard on the guy but I'm not really interested in seeing any of the AEW titles in the hands of Orange Cassidy. Ridiculous gimmicks have won championships in the past sure, but AEW's title scene has been mostly serious and I prefer they kept it that way. Those guys you're referring to were built like brickhouses, OC is built like a teenage boy. So he's a comedian and he doesn't look like a wrestler. Perception is everything, especially when gold is involved, which is the standard for what your show is all about so only serious talent should be champions in a company that prides itself in its more mature sports based feel. I may be in the minority on here but PAC hypothetically losing to OC clean (despite what history has taught us about anything being able to happen in wrestling) is utterly ridiculous to me. And oh I hated Hulk Hogan. I guess what I’m saying is that Orange Cassidy is no more a ridiculous gimmick than Hulk Hogan, John Cena, and the Rock. He has some silly spots, but no sillier than the People’s Elbow, the Five Knuckle Shuffle, and Hulking Up. Obviously, no one batted an eye at those guys winning championships despite the silly elements of their ring work, so why is Orange Cassidy any different? It’s not like Orange Cassidy is of the ilk of Mantaur, Doink the Clown, or The Maestro or something. His gimmick is really just “good wrestler who acts nonchalant to get in his opponents’ heads.” EDIT: And I’ll just echo the general sentiment that OC’s only built like a teenage boy if you happen to live in, like, an Olympic training community or something. I’ll grant you he’s not tall, but neither was Shawn Michaels. I see your point, but my main point is that those guys were mostly serious and ready for the next fight outside of the ring even with their comedic finishers. I can't buy a guy who's gimmick is to be lazy in and out of the ring being able to win titles over who AEW has signed on their roster. I mean if he "doesn't care" then why does he even want title gold? He can certainly contend but I can't buy him winning and them pushing him as some dominant mid-card champion over guys who visually look like they can kill him in seconds. If OC won the World title and went on to main event a PPV with MJF for example, would you like that? Would you like him to defeat Wardlow or Miro in a TNT title match? Or would it be better if he did his comedy thing, entertained the crowd, and came up short? |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 21, 2022 22:46:04 GMT -5
I guess what I’m saying is that Orange Cassidy is no more a ridiculous gimmick than Hulk Hogan, John Cena, and the Rock. He has some silly spots, but no sillier than the People’s Elbow, the Five Knuckle Shuffle, and Hulking Up. Obviously, no one batted an eye at those guys winning championships despite the silly elements of their ring work, so why is Orange Cassidy any different? It’s not like Orange Cassidy is of the ilk of Mantaur, Doink the Clown, or The Maestro or something. His gimmick is really just “good wrestler who acts nonchalant to get in his opponents’ heads.” EDIT: And I’ll just echo the general sentiment that OC’s only built like a teenage boy if you happen to live in, like, an Olympic training community or something. I’ll grant you he’s not tall, but neither was Shawn Michaels. I see your point, but my main point is that those guys were mostly serious outside of the ring even with their comedic finishers. I can't buy a guy who's gimmick is to be lazy in and out of the ring being able to win titles over who AEW has signed on their roster. He can certainly contend but I can't buy him winning and them pushing him as some dominant mid-card champion over guys who visually look like they can kill him in seconds. OC's really not lazy in the ring at this point though? He does the kicks, usually right when the match starts, but otherwise the dude just kind of goes full-throttle from the get-go at this juncture. They're basically just his equivalent of the Flair Flop at this point. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Sept 21, 2022 22:46:57 GMT -5
Kenny Omega did a tag match with a man that featured "The Hentai Slide" The Young Bucks are The Young Bucks, their gear and facial hair alone sells that for me. Britt Baker celebrated her title win with Big Macs and has had some comedy first vignettes. There have been serious title holders, but we're not gonna act like everyone's just been this hard faced straight and narrow person. Non-serious one off segments don't equate to a 24/7 non-serious personality. It's okay for a Kenny Omega to have a comedy segment once in a blue moon, but at the end of the day he's still the Best Bout Machine. At the end of the day Britt Baker is the badass who rips people on the mic and went to war with Thunder Rosa. OC is a guy who puts his hands in his pocket and his whole personality is that he's lazy. Trust me I know it works for the live crowd and I know you guys love him on here, but this is just the way I see it. As said earlier, I know he'll get a run as he's over AF, but from my POV its gonna be utter trash and for me will make the title he wins feel worthless. OC is a guy who puts his hands in his pockets and is lazy but when the match actually happens he is one of the best wrestlers in the world It's such a weird weak spot you have with this but you literally just described why Orange Cassidy works but did it with others wrestlers who decide to be silly. OC is silly, but he's also a great wrestler, just like Kenny Omega, and no I'm not saying Omega and Cassidy are identical, but I'm saying the magic of wrestling is someone who can play a gimmick, and still be a damn good wrestler, and Orange Cassidy does that in spades If this ruins titles and makes them feel worthless for you, I'm sorry that's where you're at. For me, I'll mark out if and when it happens. |
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Post by The Prince That Was Promised on Sept 21, 2022 22:51:20 GMT -5
Non-serious one off segments don't equate to a 24/7 non-serious personality. It's okay for a Kenny Omega to have a comedy segment once in a blue moon, but at the end of the day he's still the Best Bout Machine. At the end of the day Britt Baker is the badass who rips people on the mic and went to war with Thunder Rosa. OC is a guy who puts his hands in his pocket and his whole personality is that he's lazy. Trust me I know it works for the live crowd and I know you guys love him on here, but this is just the way I see it. As said earlier, I know he'll get a run as he's over AF, but from my POV its gonna be utter trash and for me will make the title he wins feel worthless. OC is a guy who puts his hands in his pockets and is lazy but when the match actually happens he is one of the best wrestlers in the world It's such a weird weak spot you have with this but you literally just described why Orange Cassidy works but did it with others wrestlers who decide to be silly. OC is silly, but he's also a great wrestler, just like Kenny Omega, and no I'm not saying Omega and Cassidy are identical, but I'm saying the magic of wrestling is someone who can play a gimmick, and still be a damn good wrestler, and Orange Cassidy does that in spades If this ruins titles and makes them feel worthless for you, I'm sorry that's where you're at. For me, I'll mark out if and when it happens. Its 100% gonna ruin the title he wins for me. But to each their own. I'll just skip his segments should he ever win a title. There's so much good on AEW week to week that it won't effect the rest of the show for me anyway. |
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Sept 21, 2022 22:51:54 GMT -5
I guess what I’m saying is that Orange Cassidy is no more a ridiculous gimmick than Hulk Hogan, John Cena, and the Rock. He has some silly spots, but no sillier than the People’s Elbow, the Five Knuckle Shuffle, and Hulking Up. Obviously, no one batted an eye at those guys winning championships despite the silly elements of their ring work, so why is Orange Cassidy any different? It’s not like Orange Cassidy is of the ilk of Mantaur, Doink the Clown, or The Maestro or something. His gimmick is really just “good wrestler who acts nonchalant to get in his opponents’ heads.” EDIT: And I’ll just echo the general sentiment that OC’s only built like a teenage boy if you happen to live in, like, an Olympic training community or something. I’ll grant you he’s not tall, but neither was Shawn Michaels. I see your point, but my main point is that those guys were mostly serious and ready for the next fight outside of the ring even with their comedic finishers. I can't buy a guy who's gimmick is to be lazy in and out of the ring being able to win titles over who AEW has signed on their roster. I mean if he "doesn't care" then why does he even want title gold? He can certainly contend but I can't buy him winning and them pushing him as some dominant mid-card champion over guys who visually look like they can kill him in seconds. If OC won the World title and went on to main event a PPV with MJF for example, would you like that? Would you like him to defeat Wardlow or Miro in a TNT title match? Or would it be better if he did his comedy thing, entertained the crowd, and came up short? I understand what you’re arguing to a certain extent, I just think pro wrestling has long since moved past physical attributes being a determinative factor in how heavily pushed a wrestler should be. If that were the case, Nick Comoroto and Satnam Singh should have every title in AEW. Did you hate Rey Mysterio’s main event runs in his prime, too? Honestly, as much as I love the dude, there aren’t many wrestlers who don’t look like they could physically kill Bryan Danielson. |
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Post by The Prince That Was Promised on Sept 21, 2022 22:52:29 GMT -5
I see your point, but my main point is that those guys were mostly serious outside of the ring even with their comedic finishers. I can't buy a guy who's gimmick is to be lazy in and out of the ring being able to win titles over who AEW has signed on their roster. He can certainly contend but I can't buy him winning and them pushing him as some dominant mid-card champion over guys who visually look like they can kill him in seconds. OC's really not lazy in the ring at this point though? He does the kicks, usually right when the match starts, but otherwise the dude just kind of goes full-throttle from the get-go at this juncture. They're basically just his equivalent of the Flair Flop at this point. Admittedly he's kicked it up a notch recently, but I doubt that will last. TK knows that these people love his antics and will turn up the dial again in no time. |
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Post by asuka007 on Sept 21, 2022 22:52:51 GMT -5
I feel like many wrestling promoters look at someone who can survive big losses, and get into a pattern of reflexively booking them to lose constantly because “hey, they’ll still be over anyway.” We see it A LOT.
And the thing is, just because they CAN stay over after big losses, doesn’t mean you automatically SHOULD always have them lose such matches. Do not take their popularity for granted.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 21, 2022 22:54:25 GMT -5
Orange and Kingston are two guys where you expect them to lose in a big match. Khan seems to think those two in particular can always rebound from losses due to popularity, but at some point it’s going to hurt them with the fans too. I feel the main reason is their age(OC is 38? and Kingston is 40) while TK would rather pull the trigger on younger talent.(Acclaimed)
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Sept 21, 2022 22:54:38 GMT -5
I feel like many wrestling promoters look at someone who can survive big losses, and get into a pattern of reflexively booking them to lose constantly because “hey, they’ll still be over anyway.” We see it A LOT. And the thing is, just because they CAN stay over after big losses, doesn’t mean you automatically SHOULD always have them lose such matches. Do not take their popularity for granted. Yeah, and I think the worst case scenario of that type of booking is becoming Dolph Ziggler. Which is really, really where I hope OC doesn’t end up. |
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