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Post by chrom on Aug 26, 2024 21:47:55 GMT -5
Just cut him loose, he's been a dud
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Post by Soultastic on Aug 26, 2024 23:44:54 GMT -5
Just cut him loose, he's been a dud A shame considering how well his TNT title reign went. As soon as he droped the belt it all started going downhill. A cuck-heavy hill.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 26, 2024 23:53:34 GMT -5
I forgot he was still in aew
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Aug 27, 2024 0:33:48 GMT -5
Miro has descended to the level where I just don't give a shit what the man does anymore.
He's Bulgarian Alberto Del Rio.
He could show back up in AEW on Wednesday, wouldn't care. Would be more upset he was taking time away from people who actually want to be there, and be professional.
He could show back up in WWE. Wouldn't care. Would wish that it was short lived and that Bronson Reed would flatten him into the mat and he's never heard from again.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 27, 2024 0:50:12 GMT -5
Hopefully he returns to the ring in WWE. Agreed. Thought he was overall a flop in AEW, Think he’ll thrive better in WWE if he returns there He was overall a flop in AEW because of himself, by the way. Like... completely and entirely his f***ing fault that we got here and I can't say that about many talents in either company who hit a severe booking impasse but... god can it be said about Miro.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 27, 2024 1:43:10 GMT -5
Miro hunkering down, refusing creative, coming back for one storyline and it's one where his wife cheats on him again, then he and his wife leave and divorce, is still so surreal and deranged a situation that I'm glad we got the shitshow, I wish he was still doing that cool Redeemer-tier work, I won't miss him, but I don't think he's actually going to do much better in WWE.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 27, 2024 1:53:26 GMT -5
Miro hunkering down, refusing creative, coming back for one storyline and it's one where his wife cheats on him again, then he and his wife leave and divorce, is still so surreal and deranged a situation that I'm glad we got the shitshow, I wish he was still doing that cool Redeemer-tier work, I won't miss him, but I don't think he's actually going to do much better in WWE. I still can't believe he sat out on any creative ideas for like a year until they were basically forced to hire CJ and THAT is what Miro thought everyone wanted to see from him I've never seen anyone devalue themselves so much because he thought the highlight of his career was cuck angles with his wife that he just had to do again... and then it ended in actual REAL DIVORCE Legitimately beside myself as someone who wanted to see Rusev succeed in WWE and then Miro prove WWE wrong in AEW... this is one of the strongest cases I've ever seen of a wrestler's own worst enemy being themselves.
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Post by daaave on Aug 27, 2024 3:32:45 GMT -5
This is what I don't get. I'd love to know what ideas have been pitched which weren't agreed on coz I refuse to believe TK wouldn't rather book Miro as the Redeemer over the cuck stuff.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 27, 2024 3:41:48 GMT -5
Miro hunkering down, refusing creative, coming back for one storyline and it's one where his wife cheats on him again, then he and his wife leave and divorce, is still so surreal and deranged a situation that I'm glad we got the shitshow, I wish he was still doing that cool Redeemer-tier work, I won't miss him, but I don't think he's actually going to do much better in WWE. I still can't believe he sat out on any creative ideas for like a year until they were basically forced to hire CJ and THAT is what Miro thought everyone wanted to see from him I've never seen anyone devalue themselves so much because he thought the highlight of his career was cuck angles with his wife that he just had to do again... and then it ended in actual REAL DIVORCE Legitimately beside myself as someone who wanted to see Rusev succeed in WWE and then Miro prove WWE wrong in AEW... this is one of the strongest cases I've ever seen of a wrestler's own worst enemy being themselves. REAL DIVORCE, CRY ME A RIVER
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Post by KME on Aug 27, 2024 4:31:17 GMT -5
I sympathised with him a bit when it sounded like Tony was just pitching "well how about you come back and job to this guy? No? Well what about losing to this guy?" because who wants to come back after time off TV and lose their return match. But turning down everything in favour of the cuck stuff is unforgivable really, the guy just can't seem to get out of his own way.
It's a shame because the Redeemer gimmick was great, was was the match with Hobbs last year, but he hasn't particularly been missed since he's been off TV due to the depth of the roster.
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 27, 2024 5:13:13 GMT -5
I'm gonna finally say it: Miro is IMO up there as one of the most overrated wrestlers there is. When you compare how hyped up he is/was to what he's achieved, the only other guy I can think of that beats him is Mr. Kennedy/Ken Anderson. Harsh? Maybe, and I always try to give him a chance, but then I really think about it and he checks all the boxes. Good big man but surrounded by plenty of guys that do it better? Thinks he's at the status where he can refuse to do jobs? Has extremely bad ideas? Yes, yes and yes. All he needs is some bad right wing opinions and the crown is his.
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Post by 4real on Aug 27, 2024 5:36:06 GMT -5
Miro v Andrade was a match on PPV at the last PPV of last year. Easy to forget that.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 27, 2024 5:38:38 GMT -5
Miro hunkering down, refusing creative, coming back for one storyline and it's one where his wife cheats on him again, then he and his wife leave and divorce, is still so surreal and deranged a situation that I'm glad we got the shitshow, I wish he was still doing that cool Redeemer-tier work, I won't miss him, but I don't think he's actually going to do much better in WWE. I still can't believe he sat out on any creative ideas for like a year until they were basically forced to hire CJ and THAT is what Miro thought everyone wanted to see from him I've never seen anyone devalue themselves so much because he thought the highlight of his career was cuck angles with his wife that he just had to do again... and then it ended in actual REAL DIVORCE Legitimately beside myself as someone who wanted to see Rusev succeed in WWE and then Miro prove WWE wrong in AEW... this is one of the strongest cases I've ever seen of a wrestler's own worst enemy being themselves.He Damien Sandow-ed himself
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 27, 2024 6:11:33 GMT -5
I still can't believe he sat out on any creative ideas for like a year until they were basically forced to hire CJ and THAT is what Miro thought everyone wanted to see from him I've never seen anyone devalue themselves so much because he thought the highlight of his career was cuck angles with his wife that he just had to do again... and then it ended in actual REAL DIVORCE Legitimately beside myself as someone who wanted to see Rusev succeed in WWE and then Miro prove WWE wrong in AEW... this is one of the strongest cases I've ever seen of a wrestler's own worst enemy being themselves.He Damien Sandow-ed himself Rusev/Miro and Sandow caused us to say 3 words when it came to them, "Vince was right."
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 27, 2024 6:20:48 GMT -5
He Damien Sandow-ed himself Rusev/Miro and Sandow caused us to say 3 words when it came to them, "Vince was right." Ehh. Sandow absolutely. However WWE had something with Miro/Rusev but just refused to go all in (no pun intended) when they had a chance or two.
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Post by bearned on Aug 27, 2024 7:01:37 GMT -5
Miro needs that WWE rigid structure that tells him what to do and he does it.
TK being a chill boss who is fine with Miro saying ‘that doesn’t work for me brother’ at almost every suggestion is probably the worst way to manage a guy like Miro.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 27, 2024 7:02:15 GMT -5
He Damien Sandow-ed himself Rusev/Miro and Sandow caused us to say 3 words when it came to them, "Vince was right." They had something with Rusev, but Vince wrecked him the second he told him "They're laughing AT you" with the Rusev Day stuff instead of actively leaning into something white hot over.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 27, 2024 7:07:52 GMT -5
This is what I don't get. I'd love to know what ideas have been pitched which weren't agreed on coz I refuse to believe TK wouldn't rather book Miro as the Redeemer over the cuck stuff. Total shot in the dark on my part, here, but given all the talk over the last year of "some wrestlers who see AEW as just a stepping stone on the way in or way back to WWE and see themselves as bigger than the promotion", it wouldn't shock me if it was pretty much Miro being unhappy with anything that wasn't him looking utterly dominant. And I agree that it's really too bad: I don't watch much WWE, but even seeing just a match or two of Rusev over there over the years was enough to give me the perception that "wow, this guy just gets pro wrestling". He got to AEW, took some time to settle in, and then killed it with the Redeemer run, so I figured my perception had been correct, but then, uh...yeah, just nothing. I guess I somewhat understand it on the one hand: we've seen over the years how tough it can be for an "unbeatable monster" gimmick to transition to something new once they've had to eat a few losses, so maybe he was trying to avoid that? But it doesn't change that you're under contract, you're being booked to do something, and at a certain point you've gotta play ball. Also pretty sure he'd already re-upped with AEW at some point before all this, right? Just makes it even more confusing.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 27, 2024 7:13:01 GMT -5
This is what I don't get. I'd love to know what ideas have been pitched which weren't agreed on coz I refuse to believe TK wouldn't rather book Miro as the Redeemer over the cuck stuff. Total shot in the dark on my part, here, but given all the talk over the last year of "some wrestlers who see AEW as just a stepping stone on the way in or way back to WWE and see themselves as bigger than the promotion", it wouldn't shock me if it was pretty much Miro being unhappy with anything that wasn't him looking utterly dominant. And I agree that it's really too bad: I don't watch much WWE, but even seeing just a match or two of Rusev over there over the years was enough to give me the perception that "wow, this guy just gets pro wrestling". He got to AEW, took some time to settle in, and then killed it with the Redeemer run, so I figured my perception had been correct, but then, uh...yeah, just nothing. I guess I somewhat understand it on the one hand: we've seen over the years how tough it can be for an "unbeatable monster" gimmick to transition to something new once they've had to eat a few losses, so maybe he was trying to avoid that? But it doesn't change that you're under contract, you're being booked to do something, and at a certain point you've gotta play ball. Also pretty sure he'd already re-upped with AEW at some point before all this, right? Just makes it even more confusing. I honestly think there's a lot of smoke to this fire because this all really started happening with Miro after he was forced to take back to back losses, one an audible where Miro had to face Danielson last minute in the one Tournament, and after that it felt like he refused any and all booking where he had to lose a match to someone ever again, and now we're here. Crazy to me this dude turned down losing to Hobbs apparently but in WWE he let old washed Big Show take like seven of his thrust kick finisher, kick out, and job him out in a match, I remember that vividly lol
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 27, 2024 7:17:30 GMT -5
Yeah, there does come a point where you have to either play ball if you're healthy enough or just bide your time with it. We've reached a point where a lot of talents who felt the same way are now back on TV doing different things and are in better spots because they played ball, Malakai Black being a big one, where it's hard for me to feel bad for people like Starks and Miro and you're better off just letting them get their contracts down until they go to WWE and either flourish or find out the grass isn't always greener.
Like, absolutely, the creative structure of AEW does not work for talents in the same way it might do for WWE. But at the end of the day, you're under an AEW contract, not a WWE one so you only partially have yourself to blame if it's not giving you the same guidance or whatever.
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