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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 27, 2024 7:28:51 GMT -5
I wonder if there is more to all this than the dirt sheets say. At this point I'm reluctant to take any reporting about backstage stuff at face value these days.
Especially with AEW, where it seems like they keep their cards way closer to the chest.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 27, 2024 8:27:20 GMT -5
Crazy to me this dude turned down losing to Hobbs apparently but in WWE he let old washed Big Show take like seven of his thrust kick finisher, kick out, and job him out in a match, I remember that vividly lol AS IF Rusev "let" Big Show do all that. He would've been told that was how the match was going to be booked and he would've had to do it that way whether he liked it or not. Like, was he handcuffed in WWE or was he not?
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Post by Hayabusa on Aug 27, 2024 8:37:25 GMT -5
Total shot in the dark on my part, here, but given all the talk over the last year of "some wrestlers who see AEW as just a stepping stone on the way in or way back to WWE and see themselves as bigger than the promotion", it wouldn't shock me if it was pretty much Miro being unhappy with anything that wasn't him looking utterly dominant. And I agree that it's really too bad: I don't watch much WWE, but even seeing just a match or two of Rusev over there over the years was enough to give me the perception that "wow, this guy just gets pro wrestling". He got to AEW, took some time to settle in, and then killed it with the Redeemer run, so I figured my perception had been correct, but then, uh...yeah, just nothing. I guess I somewhat understand it on the one hand: we've seen over the years how tough it can be for an "unbeatable monster" gimmick to transition to something new once they've had to eat a few losses, so maybe he was trying to avoid that? But it doesn't change that you're under contract, you're being booked to do something, and at a certain point you've gotta play ball. Also pretty sure he'd already re-upped with AEW at some point before all this, right? Just makes it even more confusing. I honestly think there's a lot of smoke to this fire because this all really started happening with Miro after he was forced to take back to back losses, one an audible where Miro had to face Danielson last minute in the one Tournament, and after that it felt like he refused any and all booking where he had to lose a match to someone ever again, and now we're here. Crazy to me this dude turned down losing to Hobbs apparently but in WWE he let old washed Big Show take like seven of his thrust kick finisher, kick out, and job him out in a match, I remember that vividly lol And this: Assuming what we'd read is true, refusing to lose to ANYONE of note after such a record puts Miro in that category of deeming AEW as second-rate and having the WWE-sized chip on his shoulder that Swerve and others did not after jumping. When Ospreay, Danielson, Moxley, Swerve, Hangman, Omega, etc., are willing to lose when told, anyone below that level who refuses to lay down should be instantly terminated or suspended. Put Miro to the test when he returns and tell him he's losing to someone like Killswitch.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 27, 2024 8:46:44 GMT -5
Crazy to me this dude turned down losing to Hobbs apparently but in WWE he let old washed Big Show take like seven of his thrust kick finisher, kick out, and job him out in a match, I remember that vividly lol AS IF Rusev "let" Big Show do all that. He would've been told that was how the match was going to be booked and he would've had to do it that way whether he liked it or not. Like, was he handcuffed in WWE or was he not? I mean at the same time if you're losing matches like that in the most absurd ways, no one is going to care if you lose to Powerhouse Hobbs once Like he even had to have the booking caveat of having a weak neck, he really tried to god mode book himself in AEW and eventually it seems like AEW had enough.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Aug 27, 2024 8:57:01 GMT -5
I am slightly willing to give Miro the benefit of the doubt, given that he obviously had something going on in his personal life throughout this whole time period. I know it's funny to meme that he booked his own divorce but, pretty clearly, he was having a litany of issues we know nothing about behind closed doors to lead to a divorce.
If he's taken some personal time, gone to his home country for a few months, and comes back rejuvenated, with his head on straight, and willing to work, then I'll be happy to see him in AEW. Him versus Hobbs at All Out last year was one of the best matches I've ever seen live. He had a fantastic TNT title run, and the Redeemer was great. I think he needs to accept the fact that he's not some giant fish in a tiny pond in AEW like he may have thought he was going to be, but he's still got a lot to offer as a professional wrestler in my opinion if he's willing to offer it.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 27, 2024 9:09:43 GMT -5
AS IF Rusev "let" Big Show do all that. He would've been told that was how the match was going to be booked and he would've had to do it that way whether he liked it or not. Like, was he handcuffed in WWE or was he not? I mean at the same time if you're losing matches like that in the most absurd ways, no one is going to care if you lose to Powerhouse Hobbs once Like he even had to have the booking caveat of having a weak neck, he really tried to god mode book himself in AEW and eventually it seems like AEW had enough. Moving companies is essentially a hard reboot for a career though, especially coming FROM Vince-era WWE to AEW. Of course nobody with a rational brain would hold bad Vince booking against someone coming into AEW. Which was why it was so jarring that, when given the option to do his own storyline in AEW, Miro went with something that invoked what many people thought was the WORST stuff Vince forced on him, bringing in CJ Perry, putting her with another man and yearning after her.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 27, 2024 9:18:23 GMT -5
I mean at the same time if you're losing matches like that in the most absurd ways, no one is going to care if you lose to Powerhouse Hobbs once Like he even had to have the booking caveat of having a weak neck, he really tried to god mode book himself in AEW and eventually it seems like AEW had enough. Moving companies is essentially a hard reboot for a career though, especially coming FROM Vince-era WWE to AEW. Of course nobody with a rational brain would hold bad Vince booking against someone coming into AEW. Which was why it was so jarring that, when given the option to do his own storyline in AEW, Miro went with something that invoked what many people thought was the WORST stuff Vince forced on him, bringing in CJ Perry, putting her with another man and yearning after her. This brings up the question: Did he *really* hate the cuck stuff as much as we though, or was his problem that he wasn't winning enough during said angle? Hell, maybe he even liked the cuck stuff given how he basically stomped his feet until they brought his wife in so they could do said angle again, only somehow just as shitty if not shitter than before. Ultimately Rusev's problem once he hit AEW is that AEW had several guys who can do what he does. And that's also now the problem with him hypothetically going back to WWE,
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 27, 2024 9:39:30 GMT -5
I am slightly willing to give Miro the benefit of the doubt, given that he obviously had something going on in his personal life throughout this whole time period. I know it's funny to meme that he booked his own divorce but, pretty clearly, he was having a litany of issues we know nothing about behind closed doors to lead to a divorce. If he's taken some personal time, gone to his home country for a few months, and comes back rejuvenated, with his head on straight, and willing to work, then I'll be happy to see him in AEW. Him versus Hobbs at All Out last year was one of the best matches I've ever seen live. He had a fantastic TNT title run, and the Redeemer was great. I think he needs to accept the fact that he's not some giant fish in a tiny pond in AEW like he may have thought he was going to be, but he's still got a lot to offer as a professional wrestler in my opinion if he's willing to offer it. Yeah, like, if there's more to this and he needed a break and can come back fresh and with a clearer head, great. As listed by others, though, if bigger stars like Danielson, Ospreay, Swerve, Omega etc are able to play ball and take some losses to get in a better position down the line, then there's zero reason for Miro to not be that way.
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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 27, 2024 9:41:46 GMT -5
I honestly think there's a lot of smoke to this fire because this all really started happening with Miro after he was forced to take back to back losses, one an audible where Miro had to face Danielson last minute in the one Tournament, and after that it felt like he refused any and all booking where he had to lose a match to someone ever again, and now we're here. Crazy to me this dude turned down losing to Hobbs apparently but in WWE he let old washed Big Show take like seven of his thrust kick finisher, kick out, and job him out in a match, I remember that vividly lol And this: Assuming what we'd read is true, refusing to lose to ANYONE of note after such a record puts Miro in that category of deeming AEW as second-rate and having the WWE-sized chip on his shoulder that Swerve and others did not after jumping. When Ospreay, Danielson, Moxley, Swerve, Hangman, Omega, etc., are willing to lose when told, anyone below that level who refuses to lay down should be instantly terminated or suspended. Put Miro to the test when he returns and tell him he's losing to someone like Killswitch. No, it should be Hologram.
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Post by Soultastic on Aug 27, 2024 9:45:01 GMT -5
And this: Assuming what we'd read is true, refusing to lose to ANYONE of note after such a record puts Miro in that category of deeming AEW as second-rate and having the WWE-sized chip on his shoulder that Swerve and others did not after jumping. When Ospreay, Danielson, Moxley, Swerve, Hangman, Omega, etc., are willing to lose when told, anyone below that level who refuses to lay down should be instantly terminated or suspended. Put Miro to the test when he returns and tell him he's losing to someone like Killswitch. No, it should be Hologram. Killswitch has won 3 championships and Hologram is the hot newcomer. Both are too good for him. Have him lose to Wardlow, and get Wardlow out of UK while we're at it.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 27, 2024 9:59:47 GMT -5
No, it should be Hologram. Killswitch has won 3 championships and Hologram is the hot newcomer. Both are too good for him. Have him lose to Wardlow, and get Wardlow out of UK while we're at it. Killswitch has only won the tag titles with Jack Perry. He never held the TNT title and while he is associated with the Patriarchy, Mother Wayne is the actual champion.
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Post by Soultastic on Aug 27, 2024 10:24:17 GMT -5
Killswitch has won 3 championships and Hologram is the hot newcomer. Both are too good for him. Have him lose to Wardlow, and get Wardlow out of UK while we're at it. Killswitch has only won the tag titles with Jack Perry. He never held the TNT title and while he is associated with the Patriarchy, Mother Wayne is the actual champion. #justiceforuno and #justicefordino
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 27, 2024 10:34:50 GMT -5
When he's on point I love Miro as a talent but the dude isn't worth this much of a headache if he's going to be continually drag himself down like this. The Redeemer run could have led him to become a main event fixture and maybe it would have eventually if he could get out of his own way but by this point he's not really worth caring about.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Sept 20, 2024 12:13:17 GMT -5
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Post by Andy Martin on Sept 20, 2024 13:18:33 GMT -5
Miro’s going to head to Hololive next and have a cuck angle with a V-Tuber.
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Post by jm on Sept 20, 2024 13:31:56 GMT -5
In the words of TJ Lavin,
Bye Miro. Don't take care. Hope to see you never.
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Sept 20, 2024 15:14:59 GMT -5
Miro - next NWA World Champion?
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Post by chronocross on Sept 20, 2024 15:48:20 GMT -5
I think it's best to just let him go, with injuries & creative differences halting his progress.
Hopefully all is well with him after the divorce from CJ Perry.
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Sept 21, 2024 5:58:45 GMT -5
I hope they make him let Hobbs squash him as a condition for the release.
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Post by wankah on Sept 21, 2024 8:56:50 GMT -5
I bet Corgan is willing to make him the cuck of the century and do it proper crash tv style as well.
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