lucas_lee
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Post by lucas_lee on Oct 24, 2022 13:09:28 GMT -5
I wonder if Rosa is frustrated that Toni has been on TV every week since her win wrestling, whereas Rosa did not get nearly as much TV time as champion? Frankly if the champ is gonna be out for months, vacate the belt. But then say that when they come back, they automatically get a title shot against the new champion. That makes the most sense to me. Thats a point that I think is pretty valid because it felt like Rosa was a supporting character in her own title reign. I dunno why, but it doesn't help that Toni Storm comes in and gets a lot more screen time compared to Shida , Riho, and other champions not named Britt Baker. Its something TK needs to work on
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Post by champchumpchange on Oct 24, 2022 13:29:39 GMT -5
I wonder if Rosa is frustrated that Toni has been on TV every week since her win wrestling, whereas Rosa did not get nearly as much TV time as champion? Frankly if the champ is gonna be out for months, vacate the belt. But then say that when they come back, they automatically get a title shot against the new champion. That makes the most sense to me. Thats a point that I think is pretty valid because it felt like Rosa was a supporting character in her own title reign. I dunno why, but it doesn't help that Toni Storm comes in and gets a lot more screen time compared to Shida , Riho, and other champions not named Britt Baker. Its something TK needs to work on She (Rosa) had been rumoured to have been injured throughout her entire run, which could explain why she got so little ring time, I suppose. Should not have been made champ if she was in such dire straits (or she should have been made to drop the belt early), but that’s another issue. From where I see it, Storm has been a much better champ (and still i feel she hasn’t been booked as the primary character of the division)
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Post by Mid-Carder on Oct 24, 2022 14:04:10 GMT -5
Thats a point that I think is pretty valid because it felt like Rosa was a supporting character in her own title reign. I dunno why, but it doesn't help that Toni Storm comes in and gets a lot more screen time compared to Shida , Riho, and other champions not named Britt Baker. Its something TK needs to work on She (Rosa) had been rumoured to have been injured throughout her entire run, which could explain why she got so little ring time, I suppose. Should not have been made champ if she was in such dire straits (or she should have been made to drop the belt early), but that’s another issue. From where I see it, Storm has been a much better champ (and still i feel she hasn’t been booked as the primary character of the division) Again, this is an issue with Tony holding off to act on these things. They waited too long and then she was injured by the time she became champion.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 24, 2022 14:57:15 GMT -5
I wonder if Rosa is frustrated that Toni has been on TV every week since her win wrestling, whereas Rosa did not get nearly as much TV time as champion? Frankly if the champ is gonna be out for months, vacate the belt. But then say that when they come back, they automatically get a title shot against the new champion. That makes the most sense to me. Thats a point that I think is pretty valid because it felt like Rosa was a supporting character in her own title reign. I dunno why, but it doesn't help that Toni Storm comes in and gets a lot more screen time compared to Shida , Riho, and other champions not named Britt Baker. Its something TK needs to work on I've said before and I'll say again. It may just be coincidence but it's funny timing that as soon as Rosa gets hurt that more women in the division are shown respect and given time to shine on both Rampage and Dynamite. I'm not necessarily blaming Rosa as it also coincides with Ari Davairi and Madison Rayne taking charge of the division, and Rosa had a lot of injuries this year, but something feels very weird about the timing that makes me think Rosa may have had more of a hand in some issues than she gets credit for
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Oct 24, 2022 15:14:49 GMT -5
So Shawn Dean (who is part of the AEW office) too umbridge with Meltzer's latest report Swerve also liked the tweet. So kind of backs my opinion I posted in the Punk thread that Meltz isn't in good standing with AEW right now. Guess work like that should he called out.
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Post by markymark on Oct 24, 2022 15:24:33 GMT -5
Thats a point that I think is pretty valid because it felt like Rosa was a supporting character in her own title reign. I dunno why, but it doesn't help that Toni Storm comes in and gets a lot more screen time compared to Shida , Riho, and other champions not named Britt Baker. Its something TK needs to work on I've said before and I'll say again. It may just be coincidence but it's funny timing that as soon as Rosa gets hurt that more women in the division are shown respect and given time to shine on both Rampage and Dynamite. I'm not necessarily blaming Rosa as it also coincides with Ari Davairi and Madison Rayne taking charge of the division, and Rosa had a lot of injuries this year, but something feels very weird about the timing that makes me think Rosa may have had more of a hand in some issues than she gets credit for
Some of the big complains regarding the Women division was that it was centered on Britt and Jade and the Womens champ barely had tv time.
Now Britt has eaten several pins for the past months and Jade has finally looked vulnerable in a feud (Nyla), Toni has been booked strong so far and looks like she is starting to click with the crowd.
Rosas booking got quite a lot of criticism online that it seems that AEW management really listened to them and didnt want to do that mistake with Toni, I agree that Ari and Madison helped in making the division improve.
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Post by markymark on Oct 25, 2022 13:24:48 GMT -5
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 25, 2022 13:28:13 GMT -5
Eh that’s lame if she’s “shooting” there. One, Khan booked Baker in segments when she was injured. Two, Thunder Rosa’s a parent so I have no problem with her spending more time at home while she’s injured instead of showing up backstage just because.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 25, 2022 13:34:35 GMT -5
What a shitty thing to say
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Oct 25, 2022 14:54:44 GMT -5
You know, all of this Britt stuff annoys me, and even Toni getting into it was annoying.
But what gets me is this: nobody has come to Rosa's defense. Even Punk had defenders at first.
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Post by SneakMan on Oct 25, 2022 15:00:28 GMT -5
Christ, enough of this petty high school sniping. It makes everyone involved - Rosa, Toni and especially Britt - look like assholes.
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Post by Kalmia on Oct 25, 2022 16:39:00 GMT -5
It's also unfair to compare the injuries. Back injuries are not going to get better if you're cramming yourself into an airplane seat every week for several hours to travel to wherever Dynamite is. A broken wrist, a broken nose, and even a broken leg will be awkward to travel with, but it's not the same ballpark at all.
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Post by champchumpchange on Oct 25, 2022 16:45:29 GMT -5
I like Britt. I get what she's trying to say, that she's there every week - but I wish she'd simply stop giving TR any attention and focus on the division as it stands, putting the emphasis on Toni and Saraya.
The less is said about Rosa, the better.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Oct 25, 2022 17:44:30 GMT -5
You know, all of this Britt stuff annoys me, and even Toni getting into it was annoying. But what gets me is this: nobody has come to Rosa's defense. Even Punk had defenders at first.Punk's "Lows" were way lower, his behavior at the media scrum was WAY more out of pocket than Rosa, Britt or Toni has done COMBINED But Punk's "highs" were also some of the best moments during the short time period AEW has been on air. It's not hard to believe he's gained more die hard fans who will blindly support him over the years. Rosa had some nice moments with the lights out match and her winning the title in her home town, but there aren't too many people out here Stan-ing for her
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Oct 25, 2022 18:25:12 GMT -5
You know, all of this Britt stuff annoys me, and even Toni getting into it was annoying. But what gets me is this: nobody has come to Rosa's defense. Even Punk had defenders at first.Punk's "Lows" were way lower, his behavior at the media scrum was WAY more out of pocket than Rosa, Britt or Toni has done COMBINED But Punk's "highs" were also some of the best moments during the short time period AEW has been on air. It's not hard to believe he's gained more die hard fans who will blindly support him over the years. Rosa had some nice moments with the lights out match and her winning the title in her home town, but there aren't too many people out here Stan-ing for her I think he was referring to talents and not fans
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 25, 2022 18:26:42 GMT -5
It's also unfair to compare the injuries. Back injuries are not going to get better if you're cramming yourself into an airplane seat every week for several hours to travel to wherever Dynamite is. A broken wrist, a broken nose, and even a broken leg will be awkward to travel with, but it's not the same ballpark at all. I know she's "only" a dentist, but it is unbelievably reckless of a medical professional to be saying that kind of thing. Just absolute trash garbage.
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Post by champchumpchange on Oct 25, 2022 18:30:24 GMT -5
It's also unfair to compare the injuries. Back injuries are not going to get better if you're cramming yourself into an airplane seat every week for several hours to travel to wherever Dynamite is. A broken wrist, a broken nose, and even a broken leg will be awkward to travel with, but it's not the same ballpark at all. I know she's "only" a dentist, but it is unbelievably reckless of a medical professional to be saying that kind of thing. Just absolute trash garbage. She never advocated for anyone to take bumps while injured, she just stated she was at TV even if injured. Where's the recklessness in that?
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 25, 2022 18:33:29 GMT -5
This whole mindset that you *have* to work hurt and if you don't, you're not as committed or weaker than someone who chooses to is so f***ing weird. I don't blame Britt for having the mindset; it's probably what she was taught to do and the general mood of wrestlers. But as a fan, I don't want to see wrestlers end up with long-term problems because they didn't let stuff heal properly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2022 18:34:06 GMT -5
I know she's "only" a dentist, but it is unbelievably reckless of a medical professional to be saying that kind of thing. Just absolute trash garbage. She never advocated for anyone to take bumps while injured, she just stated she was at TV even if injured. Where's the recklessness in that? She's not Rosa's doctor, for starters. And back injuries are different than a wrist, a nose, etc. Travel may be ill-advised.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 25, 2022 18:51:44 GMT -5
I know she's "only" a dentist, but it is unbelievably reckless of a medical professional to be saying that kind of thing. Just absolute trash garbage. She never advocated for anyone to take bumps while injured, she just stated she was at TV even if injured. Where's the recklessness in that? There's so many complicated factors to recovery and to injury. She should know this, and to brag about how it didn't stop her to cast aspersions on someone else is shitty. It's not in advocating for bumps, but in shaming someone for resting off at home with their injury instead of continuing to show up. That's irresponsible, because it puts out there a statement from someone who in every way should know better and should not be saying those things. She has co-workers. She has performed medical procedures on co-workers. That gives her a certain level of authority on the topic that it's dangerous to just cast out there like that because she doesn't like someone.
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