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Post by ChitownKnight on Oct 29, 2022 12:50:39 GMT -5
I guess this is the first year since 2001 where we haven’t had a Cena match in the wwe main roster. I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if that match with Roman will end up as the last canon match of his career
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Oct 29, 2022 12:56:46 GMT -5
Just rub the salt in my wounds, why don’tcha.
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Post by wildojinx on Oct 29, 2022 13:00:48 GMT -5
The year isnt over yet.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 29, 2022 13:11:39 GMT -5
Not entirely sure 2020 really counts as having had a match either given all he did was the Firefly Fun House match.
Either way I don't mind. Kind of seen all the Cena I ever need to see.
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Post by tirtefaa on Oct 29, 2022 17:52:49 GMT -5
He'll be back eventually. There's nothing in place that makes me think he wouldn't return to wrestling, especially since he was at the forefront of WWE longer than anyone since Sammartino.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Oct 29, 2022 18:25:36 GMT -5
He'll be back eventually. There's nothing in place that makes me think he wouldn't return to wrestling, especially since he was at the forefront of WWE longer than anyone since Sammartino. Guys not getting any younger, and I doubt Hollywood would want him going out there risking injury. I’d love for him to win #17 though |
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Oct 29, 2022 18:29:28 GMT -5
Good. Stay away.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Oct 29, 2022 19:22:00 GMT -5
Yay!
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Oct 29, 2022 19:33:40 GMT -5
Funhouse match pt 2 please
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Oct 29, 2022 19:45:55 GMT -5
Remember when they were heavily hinting that Cena would fight Austin Theory?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 20:05:57 GMT -5
awesome. i've had enough cena for a lifetime. no more, please lmao
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Post by tirtefaa on Oct 29, 2022 21:58:24 GMT -5
Guys not getting any younger Right, but when you have guys like Hogan, Triple H, Goldberg, Sting, Kevin Nash and others who were in far worse shape than Cena has ever been in, who wrestled later than he currently is at. Even with his neck injuries, he's stayed relatively healthy over the years. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 29, 2022 22:05:56 GMT -5
Guys not getting any younger Right, but when you have guys like Hogan, Triple H, Goldberg, Sting, Kevin Nash and others who were in far worse shape than Cena has ever been in, who wrestled later than he currently is at. Even with his neck injuries, he's stayed relatively healthy over the years. It's probably like the Rock. Dude has other obligations and no company is going to let them potentially wreck a movie production schedule with an injury. It's what happened... Last year? for Wrestlemania. |
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Post by ChitownKnight on Oct 30, 2022 0:29:47 GMT -5
Guys not getting any younger Right, but when you have guys like Hogan, Triple H, Goldberg, Sting, Kevin Nash and others who were in far worse shape than Cena has ever been in, who wrestled later than he currently is at. Even with his neck injuries, he's stayed relatively healthy over the years. You missed my next sentence lol |
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Oct 30, 2022 1:00:02 GMT -5
Cena still has one big one in him.
I can't wait.
All the nay sayers make no sense to me. Dude was over, sold merch, has arguably the greatest catalog of matches of any WWE Ace and has a pretty good public image.
What more could you want?
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Oct 30, 2022 1:19:37 GMT -5
Cena still has one big one in him. I can't wait. All the nay sayers make no sense to me. Dude was over, sold merch, has arguably the greatest catalog of matches of any WWE Ace and has a pretty good public image. What more could you want? A heel turn. |
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Oct 30, 2022 1:20:50 GMT -5
Cena still has one big one in him. I can't wait. All the nay sayers make no sense to me. Dude was over, sold merch, has arguably the greatest catalog of matches of any WWE Ace and has a pretty good public image. What more could you want? A heel turn. Why? |
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Oct 30, 2022 1:48:51 GMT -5
A few reasons: 1) It's been almost 20 years since Cena has been an outright, unequivocal heel. A heel turn is much more different, and probably interesting to watch, than Cena the conquering hero, which we've seen several times during his main run in WWE. 2) Having Cena be a heel creates fresh match-ups. This is why I think anybody who says the Austin heel turn in 2001 was a bad idea is wrong. A face Austin in 2001 after Wrestlemania 17 would have been a creative dead-end. A heel Austin in 2001 allowed him to work with the Hardyz, Booker T, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, and Rob Van Dam. Those are all fresh match-ups with people Austin wouldn't have normally worked with had he been a face. I think the same would apply to Cena. 3) You don't have to do much actually to turn Cena heel; just turn all the things about the character, especially those that people already don't like, up to 11. Make his merch even uglier and gaudier than before--two colours, three colours, a technicolour dreamcoat. Merchandise him out the ass with stuff like unnecessary consumer goods like John Cena the bubblebath or John Cena the fungal cream or John Cena the pleasure wand or John Cena the flamethrower, and then have him hock all this useless crap on TV like he works for the Home Shopping Channel. And like 3 Is Kurt Angle, play up Cena's sanctimony, condescension, and hypocrisy, like all those times when face Cena sucked as a babyface, and have him be a major buzzkill. 4) Listening to the fans, better late than never. I think Roman Reigns' heel turn was the thing that actually, finally got the guy over with the audience after years of trying to make babyface Reigns happen like he was the word "fetch." Not like Reigns' heel turn hasn't come with its own problems, as his current title reign shows, but Cena being a part-timer means he won't have a stranglehold on TV time and the main event scene. A heel turn would be the slow, painful pay off for those fans, who, in 2005, 2006, 2007, and on and on, wanted his booking to be heel-like to match our feelings about the guy. WWE finally relented with Reigns and made the switch, I don't see why Cena, at this point in his career in particular, is above such a creative decision. |
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Post by ChitownKnight on Oct 30, 2022 1:58:51 GMT -5
A few reasons: 1) It's been almost 20 years since Cena has been an outright, unequivocal heel. A heel turn is much more different, and probably interesting to watch, than Cena the conquering hero, which we've seen several times during his main run in WWE. 2) Having Cena be a heel creates fresh match-ups. This is why I think anybody who says the Austin heel turn in 2001 was a bad idea is wrong. A face Austin in 2001 after Wrestlemania 17 would have been a creative dead-end. A heel Austin in 2001 allowed him to work with the Hardyz, Booker T, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, and Rob Van Dam. Those are all fresh match-ups with people Austin wouldn't have normally worked with had he been a face. I think the same would apply to Cena. 3) You don't have to do much actually to turn Cena heel; just turn all the things about the character, especially those that people already don't like, up to 11. Make his merch even uglier and gaudier than before--two colours, three colours, a technicolour dreamcoat. Merchandise him out the ass with stuff like unnecessary consumer goods like John Cena the bubblebath or John Cena the fungal cream or John Cena the pleasure wand or John Cena the flamethrower, and then have him hock all this useless crap on TV like he works for the Home Shopping Channel. And like 3 Is Kurt Angle, play up Cena's sanctimony, condescension, and hypocrisy, like all those times when face Cena sucked as a babyface, and have him be a major buzzkill. 4) Listening to the fans, better late than never. I think Roman Reigns' heel turn was the thing that actually, finally got the guy over with the audience after years of trying to make babyface Reigns happen like he was the word "fetch." Not like Reigns' heel turn hasn't come with its own problems, as his current title reign shows, but Cena being a part-timer means he won't have a stranglehold on TV time and the main event scene. A heel turn would be the slow, painful pay off for those fans, who, in 2005, 2006, 2007, and on and on, wanted his booking to be heel-like to match our feelings about the guy. WWE finally relented with Reigns and made the switch, I don't see why Cena, at this point in his career in particular, is above such a creative decision. Now they would have it be like an HBK 2005 like heel run where he comes back for one program as a heel then shake his opponents hand after losing to him. I think the best time to turn him heel would of been 2013. He turns heel against the Rock at the buildup to mania 29 (maybe the Feb Ppv after the Rock/Punk rematch). He still beats the Rock clean and then loses to Bryan at Summerslam and takes his break and comes back a face against Del Rio. He can go through face Ryback, face Orton, a face Punk (where Heyman costs Punk leading to the Lesnar match) before Dropping it to Bryan |
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Oct 30, 2022 3:29:38 GMT -5
I've never thought he should turn heel. He never needed it. He was moving so much merch & bringing in so much money, they never needed to do it.
Fans were buying tickets and ordering PPV's. Some to see him lose, others to see him win.
The 50/50, (tho He got mostly cheers if we're being honest) made him heel to those who booed him.
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