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Post by karl100589 on Nov 26, 2022 15:12:45 GMT -5
Ronda is not being booked to her strengths right now. For whatever you think about her, being a smarmy heel who mocks opponents is not working for her. If she's going to be a heel, it should be a silent killer who has someone for a mouthpiece. But everything about her from her music to her aura still spells out babyface. Nothing about her presentation adds up. I’d agree if it wasn’t for the fact she seems to be enjoying herself a lot more (or at least more then when she was a smiling handslapping babyface. The promo with her and Shayna was basically them two goofing between one another. personally I think her best character was the snarky tweener when she was feuding with Pearce.
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Post by asuka007 on Nov 26, 2022 15:48:46 GMT -5
Ronda is just a really limited performer. And it feels like we’ve seen her best work already.
That promo she and Shayna had was brutal. Just terrible.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Nov 26, 2022 17:13:16 GMT -5
Ronda is not being booked to her strengths right now. For whatever you think about her, being a smarmy heel who mocks opponents is not working for her. If she's going to be a heel, it should be a silent killer who has someone for a mouthpiece. But everything about her from her music to her aura still spells out babyface. Nothing about her presentation adds up. Wonder who WWE has that would work as the Heyman to Ronda’s Brock Lesnar.
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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 26, 2022 19:19:39 GMT -5
Ronda is not being booked to her strengths right now. For whatever you think about her, being a smarmy heel who mocks opponents is not working for her. If she's going to be a heel, it should be a silent killer who has someone for a mouthpiece. But everything about her from her music to her aura still spells out babyface. Nothing about her presentation adds up.
Agreed. I also feel that in terms of her in-ring work, her strengths (including her bumping) are best used as as a babyface.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Nov 26, 2022 22:26:53 GMT -5
Can we now get Shotzi away from any future title shots? Like, forever?
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Post by asuka007 on Nov 26, 2022 22:30:23 GMT -5
This Ronda reign is going to be a SLOG to get through.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Nov 26, 2022 22:40:09 GMT -5
Still to go:
Xia Li Aliyah Lacey Evans Natalya 6
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 26, 2022 22:46:21 GMT -5
Still to go: Xia Li Aliyah Lacey Evans Natalya 6 Dear God, as bad as Ronda vs. Shotzi was, I never want to see Ronda vs. Nattie again either!
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Post by XIII on Nov 26, 2022 23:16:47 GMT -5
Ronda vs. Shotzi was so, so bad. I can’t believe Raquel’s arm died for this!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 23:18:27 GMT -5
The twothree archetypes in the division are: -Tough & Credible -Loser Dweeb Who Can Maybe Luck Their Way Into a Rollup Win (but will still get their ass kicked by the above afterwards) -Valets as mentioned You forgot a fourth. Aliyah.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 26, 2022 23:19:34 GMT -5
Ronda seems to be legitimately just flat out terrible in the ring at this point. Not that Shotzi's any good either but Ronda was really the one botching everything and who didn't seem to know what she was doing.
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Post by asuka007 on Nov 26, 2022 23:20:38 GMT -5
Say what you will about Bianca. But Bianca is at least a genuine frak athlete and has some natural charisma.
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Post by Fade on Nov 26, 2022 23:23:38 GMT -5
That match was bowling shoe ugly
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 26, 2022 23:25:18 GMT -5
Man, it's tough being a Shotzi fan. I keep rooting for her and hoping she'll have a breakthrough singles match performance, but she keeps stinking it up. I still think she's fine in a tag team though and I'm gonna keep stanning! I'M NEVER GOING TO GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST LIKE JOHN CENA!!!!!
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Post by mistery on Nov 26, 2022 23:30:54 GMT -5
Yeah. That match was a complete stinker. A dud. But I'm not going to put all of the blame on Shotzi, as she's shown she can have some incredibly good matches and bumps like a madman. She also has a lot of charisma. The problem is that her match quality depends almost entirely on who she is facing.
On the other hand, Ronda has negative levels of charisma and takes bumps really poorly. And she's grown completely stale as a performer, and it's clear that people are getting bored of her as champion. It's time for her to go away, hopefully for good this time, because the women's division doesn't need her.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 26, 2022 23:35:15 GMT -5
Yeah. That match was a complete stinker. A dud. But I'm not going to put all of the blame on Shotzi, as she's shown she can have some incredibly good matches and bumps like a madman. She also has a lot of charisma. The problem is that her match quality depends almost entirely on who she is facing. On the other hand, Ronda has negative levels of charisma and takes bumps really poorly. And she's grown completely stale as a performer, and it's clear that people are getting bored of her as champion. It's time for her to go away, hopefully for good this time, because the women's division doesn't need her. I think they need to just keep Shotzi in a tag team or maybe send her back to NXT where HBK might be able to hide some of her weaknesses. I'm with you on Ronda, though. I'm just not really interested in anything she does anymore, even though I appreciate how giving she is in her matches.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 26, 2022 23:38:45 GMT -5
Shotzi has a lot of physical charisma, energy and a great look. What she isn't though is that top-tier worker that you put in high-profile championship matches. At least not yet, it could come to her, it may never. Rousey isn't that top-tier worker either (anymore? Coulda sworn she was good in her first run), but they're all in on her for name value and a supposed endgame at WrestleMania, so the belt's kinda tied up with her for the interim period.
Problem is, the SmackDown roster as it currently stands doesn't have that kind of worker to carry the match, at least any that are currently active. The closest would possibly be Baszler, but she not only works a very similar style to Rousey (which isn't very flashy and prone to crowd disenhancement), she's currently allied with Rousey and likely not going to be a challenger any time soon.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 26, 2022 23:40:59 GMT -5
Shotzi has a lot of physical charisma, energy and a great look. What she isn't though is that top-tier worker that you put in high-profile championship matches. At least not yet, it could come to her, it may never. Rousey isn't that top-tier worker either (anymore? Coulda sworn she was good in her first run), but they're all in on her for name value and a supposed endgame at WrestleMania, so the belt's kinda tied up with her for the interim period. Problem is, the SmackDown roster as it currently stands doesn't have that kind of worker to carry the match, at least any that are currently active. Mandy Rose improving as much she has in NXT gives me hope that it could happen for Shotzi someday, too. If not, there are other ways to use her that don't involve her wrestling a lot.
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Post by mistery on Nov 26, 2022 23:42:45 GMT -5
Shotzi has a lot of physical charisma, energy and a great look. What she isn't though is that top-tier worker that you put in high-profile championship matches. At least not yet, it could come to her, it may never. Rousey isn't that top-tier worker either (anymore? Coulda sworn she was good in her first run), but they're all in on her for name value and a supposed endgame at WrestleMania, so the belt's kinda tied up with her for the interim period. Problem is, the SmackDown roster as it currently stands doesn't have that kind of worker to carry the match, at least any that are currently active. I think it's pretty telling that the next challenger for Ronda is likely going to be Raquel, the queen of the anti-pop. The black hole of charisma. While the match might be better, the actual feud will not considering how unbelievably dire both women are when it comes to charisma.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 26, 2022 23:43:15 GMT -5
I wonder what the hell happened that somehow probably the best match Ronda has ever had was against Nia Jax.
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